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Replying To tearintom: "Seriously, this has gone beyond childish!
Rugby is worse because in rugby people are disturbing others by getting up and getting a drink but you cant bring drink to your seats at a GAA match so GAA is better!!! Really!!
Ive been disturbed as much during rugby games, soccer game as i have been in Croke Park etc and to be honest ive been more frustrated in Croke Park with being disturbed than i have been anywhere else because of the different nature of the sports.
Hurling in particular is non stop, end to end which requires attention whereas in rugby the game is very fragmented with an awful lot more stop start.
In many ways because people cant bring drinks to their seats it leads to lads "stocking up" before the game starts and once that happens there is only so much a human bladder can handle. Sitting in Croker with 4 or 5 tanked up young fellas is a complete pain in the ass as i experienced this year, full to the brim late coming to their seats followed by each one in turn heading for the "jacks" over different stages of the game.
In my opinion if a sporting event and arena is going to sell alcohol they should be shut down 30 mins before the game starts and not open till its over." so sell alcohol, but not while anyone is in the stadium? Yeah that will catch on. .
cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 5012 - 05/12/2016 12:42:16
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When you see the way someone like Pat Lam ups and leaves after a bit of success rugby will never replace the GAA.....that been said Irish internationals buggered off before him.
witnof (Dublin) - Posts: 1604 - 05/12/2016 13:06:36
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Replying To cavanman47: "so sell alcohol, but not while anyone is in the stadium? Yeah that will catch on. ." Yes sell it before the game starts.
Have you ever been to a game? Ever happened to notice how many people are drinking in pubs before games start or the venue opens? Whats stopping people from having a drink in the venue before a game if it was made more viable? If people want a drink encourage it to be in the ground.
A lot safer than what we see at the moment with crowds taking over footpaths and stretching out on to roads etc as traffic flies by whilst they throw off pints.
You go to many other social events and bars are closed whilst the performance is on. Shut them maybe 15/20 mins before game starts so ye dont have lad throwing off the last drop or full pint before stumbling down to their seats maybe 5/10 mins into a game. Off to the toilet at least once through the first half followed by a rush to get tanked up again at half time and another repeat of the first half lateness and toilet breaks.
Preferably id rather see no alcohol served at a sporting event but thats not going to happen. Not because i am anti drink or anything, far from it but i just dont see the connection that you need one to enjoy the other personally. Plenty of time for a drink before and after games.
tearintom (Wexford) - Posts: 1337 - 05/12/2016 13:20:46
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Replying To Mickmick: "For all those wondering if the GAA can 'withstand the Rugby onslaught'
A team from DALKEY just won the Leinster hurling championship. All those kids in the stand cheering on Cuala; most of they're dads played Rugby.
Just let that slip in for a moment." 100% right.
Great to see it. Yet according to many on here they would have no interest in having those young fellas anywhere near the GAA Club to start with, different breed, not true gaels etc etc and other comments.
Im sure the likes of Cuala arent taking that approach and are reaping the benefits from it and going from strength to strength.
tearintom (Wexford) - Posts: 1337 - 05/12/2016 13:32:33
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Hopefully the optimists are right. But not all of Dalkey is rich and immersed in rugby culture...it has a large working class population too. Paul McGrath once played for Dalkey United and his background was very much working class. Let's roll with the optimists so.
PoolSturgeon (Galway) - Posts: 1903 - 05/12/2016 14:35:53
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Replying To tearintom: "Yes sell it before the game starts.
Have you ever been to a game? Ever happened to notice how many people are drinking in pubs before games start or the venue opens? Whats stopping people from having a drink in the venue before a game if it was made more viable? If people want a drink encourage it to be in the ground.
A lot safer than what we see at the moment with crowds taking over footpaths and stretching out on to roads etc as traffic flies by whilst they throw off pints.
You go to many other social events and bars are closed whilst the performance is on. Shut them maybe 15/20 mins before game starts so ye dont have lad throwing off the last drop or full pint before stumbling down to their seats maybe 5/10 mins into a game. Off to the toilet at least once through the first half followed by a rush to get tanked up again at half time and another repeat of the first half lateness and toilet breaks.
Preferably id rather see no alcohol served at a sporting event but thats not going to happen. Not because i am anti drink or anything, far from it but i just dont see the connection that you need one to enjoy the other personally. Plenty of time for a drink before and after games." There should be no need for alcohol!
Your going to watch a match not to a pub
We should be encouraging people to leave the drink out at sports events not looking for more people to take it up. There would be more relevance to having a bookies in stadiums as at least you could be betting on the actual sports event taking place but they don't provide that service so why should alcohol be deemed a must in stadiums.
hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 05/12/2016 14:37:57
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Replying To Mickmick: "For all those wondering if the GAA can 'withstand the Rugby onslaught'
A team from DALKEY just won the Leinster hurling championship. All those kids in the stand cheering on Cuala; most of they're dads played Rugby.
Just let that slip in for a moment." Yeah but Foxrock were beaten in the womens final. Most of their dads played rugby, maybe, I dunno probably ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Let THAT sink in for a minute. Yeah it means absolutely nothing as well.
Breffni40 (Cavan) - Posts: 12120 - 05/12/2016 16:51:40
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Replying To Breffni39: "Yeah but Foxrock were beaten in the womens final. Most of their dads played rugby, maybe, I dunno probably ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Let THAT sink in for a minute. Yeah it means absolutely nothing as well." What about their mothers.
gunman (Donegal) - Posts: 1057 - 05/12/2016 17:11:58
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Replying To gunman: "What about their mothers." Hockey? Who knows! We could say they played kabaddi, accuracy is not important.
Breffni40 (Cavan) - Posts: 12120 - 05/12/2016 17:34:13
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I see the Minister for Sport and his Junior Minister have issued press statements thanking Pat Lam for his success in Galway ahead of his move to England to further progress his career. Is this fairly standard practice in Ireland? I could never imagine a Minister here making such a statement for an equivalent individual.
Soma (UK) - Posts: 2630 - 05/12/2016 18:38:04
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Replying To Soma: "I see the Minister for Sport and his Junior Minister have issued press statements thanking Pat Lam for his success in Galway ahead of his move to England to further progress his career. Is this fairly standard practice in Ireland? I could never imagine a Minister here making such a statement for an equivalent individual." It's not any old Minister. It's Shane Ross !!!
https://www.balls.ie/rugby/paul-kimmage-shane-ross-353627/353627
GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7345 - 06/12/2016 09:49:41
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Replying To Soma: "I see the Minister for Sport and his Junior Minister have issued press statements thanking Pat Lam for his success in Galway ahead of his move to England to further progress his career. Is this fairly standard practice in Ireland? I could never imagine a Minister here making such a statement for an equivalent individual." Or one here issuing a statement about a LOI or GAA manager resigning? Or do they?
Breffni40 (Cavan) - Posts: 12120 - 06/12/2016 10:17:01
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Replying To hill16no1man: "There should be no need for alcohol!
Your going to watch a match not to a pub
We should be encouraging people to leave the drink out at sports events not looking for more people to take it up. There would be more relevance to having a bookies in stadiums as at least you could be betting on the actual sports event taking place but they don't provide that service so why should alcohol be deemed a must in stadiums." Agreed. If it's a pint of hot n weak yella water yer after, bring a plastic cup... and recycle. Tastes just as good. Miles cheaper though.
plike (Kerry) - Posts: 569 - 06/12/2016 14:49:23
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There should be no need for alcohol!
Your going to watch a match not to a pub
We should be encouraging people to leave the drink out at sports events not looking for more people to take it up. There would be more relevance to having a bookies in stadiums as at least you could be betting on the actual sports event taking place but they don't provide that service so why should alcohol be deemed a must in stadiums.
hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts:11474 - 05/12/2016 14:37:57 Why shouldn't there be alcohol. For everyone going its a social occasion and they shouldn't not be allowed alcohol.
People shouldn't be restricted unless it causes serious trouble and people drinking doesn't do that overall.
ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 07/12/2016 20:54:11
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Why should every social occasion as you put it require alcohol?
It's a sporting event if you can't be entertained by the actual sport then your in the wrong place the pub would suit ya better as you can still have your passing interest on tv and socialise to your heart's content without disrupting people who actually want to enjoy the sporting action.
plus if you don't think alcohol leads to trouble take a job as a bouncer in a nightclub for a night and let me know what you think after
hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 07/12/2016 21:32:12
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Ormond Why should every social occasion as you put it require alcohol?
It's a sporting event if you can't be entertained by the actual sport then your in the wrong place the pub would suit ya better as you can still have your passing interest on tv and socialise to your heart's content without disrupting people who actually want to enjoy the sporting action.
plus if you don't think alcohol leads to trouble take a job as a bouncer in a nightclub for a night and let me know what you think after
hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts:11475 - 07/12/2016 21:32:12 But the sporting event for many is their sole chance of going out and maybe having a few drinks. Your idea of just banning booze is unfair. Your implication that people cant be entertained without booze is just wrong and saying people who drink in stadiums have a passing interest is very unfair
You are stereotyping all who drink based on the actions of a few.
Alcohol does cause trouble at times but that is only a small minority
ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 07/12/2016 21:53:02
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Replying To ormondbannerman: "There should be no need for alcohol!
Your going to watch a match not to a pub
We should be encouraging people to leave the drink out at sports events not looking for more people to take it up. There would be more relevance to having a bookies in stadiums as at least you could be betting on the actual sports event taking place but they don't provide that service so why should alcohol be deemed a must in stadiums.
hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts:11474 - 05/12/2016 14:37:57 Why shouldn't there be alcohol. For everyone going its a social occasion and they shouldn't not be allowed alcohol.
People shouldn't be restricted unless it causes serious trouble and people drinking doesn't do that overall." You shouldn't be allowed drink in your seat..you are there to watch the match..I agree hill no reason why a few betting stands could be allowed
alano12 (Dublin) - Posts: 2208 - 07/12/2016 22:05:10
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Replying To alano12: " Replying To ormondbannerman: "There should be no need for alcohol!
Your going to watch a match not to a pub
We should be encouraging people to leave the drink out at sports events not looking for more people to take it up. There would be more relevance to having a bookies in stadiums as at least you could be betting on the actual sports event taking place but they don't provide that service so why should alcohol be deemed a must in stadiums.
hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts:11474 - 05/12/2016 14:37:57 Why shouldn't there be alcohol. For everyone going its a social occasion and they shouldn't not be allowed alcohol.
People shouldn't be restricted unless it causes serious trouble and people drinking doesn't do that overall." You shouldn't be allowed drink in your seat..you are there to watch the match..I agree hill no reason why a few betting stands could be allowed"
Why would there be a need for a bookies on site? Most people who gamble can do so with a few taps on the phone in their pockets.
tearintom (Wexford) - Posts: 1337 - 08/12/2016 08:42:49
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if everybody who places bets does so on their phone then why would racecourses still use betting stalls and their own facilities for betting in the shape of the tote and take in millions on wagered bets.
I have never placed a bet online and I follow horses.
hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 08/12/2016 11:15:02
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agree with woodward hell16man and alano on this - no to alcohol in stands or terrace if you wanna drink and watch game you can do so in the bar -as keeper7 say its not a problem in gaa as they dont let you bring drink in and hopefully that remains the case
however modern sport has to be paid for and there is money to be made from those bars
janesboro (Limerick) - Posts: 1502 - 08/12/2016 11:28:26
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