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I stand to be corrected but thankfully very very few GAA players pick rugby over GAA. It's a different breed in general that play rugby and let it stay that way!!
tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 29/11/2016 15:10:07
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He should have got chinned for doing it, however, you keep bending over there ormo
bumpernut (Antrim) - Posts:1519 - 29/11/2016 14:23:58Who would have benefited from "chinning" him? As Ireland would have started game with 14 and I respect Johnson for doing it. It showed a ruthlessness and bloodymindedness that if an irish man/team had done the same they would have been praised through the roof.
I stand to be corrected but thankfully very very few GAA players pick rugby over GAA. It's a different breed in general that play rugby and let it stay that way!!
tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts:1674 - 29/11/2016 15:10:07 Weird post and completely wrong. So Tipp hurlers like Darragh Egan, Hugh Moloney, Boogie O Meara etc etc are a different breed then? And that's just 3 guys whove hurled with Tipp in recent years that ive played rugby with. And theres countless more across the country
ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 29/11/2016 16:07:35
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Replying To ormondbannerman: "He should have got chinned for doing it, however, you keep bending over there ormo
bumpernut (Antrim) - Posts:1519 - 29/11/2016 14:23:58Who would have benefited from "chinning" him? As Ireland would have started game with 14 and I respect Johnson for doing it. It showed a ruthlessness and bloodymindedness that if an irish man/team had done the same they would have been praised through the roof.
I stand to be corrected but thankfully very very few GAA players pick rugby over GAA. It's a different breed in general that play rugby and let it stay that way!!
tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts:1674 - 29/11/2016 15:10:07 Weird post and completely wrong. So Tipp hurlers like Darragh Egan, Hugh Moloney, Boogie O Meara etc etc are a different breed then? And that's just 3 guys whove hurled with Tipp in recent years that ive played rugby with. And theres countless more across the country" Well I know two of them personally which makes your statement actually weirder! Did they take it seriously? Dara has played numerous sports but has only played hurling seriously. We've all played soccer and the likes to keep active.
tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 29/11/2016 16:13:23
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Replying To ormondbannerman: "He should have got chinned for doing it, however, you keep bending over there ormo
bumpernut (Antrim) - Posts:1519 - 29/11/2016 14:23:58Who would have benefited from "chinning" him? As Ireland would have started game with 14 and I respect Johnson for doing it. It showed a ruthlessness and bloodymindedness that if an irish man/team had done the same they would have been praised through the roof.
I stand to be corrected but thankfully very very few GAA players pick rugby over GAA. It's a different breed in general that play rugby and let it stay that way!!
tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts:1674 - 29/11/2016 15:10:07 Weird post and completely wrong. So Tipp hurlers like Darragh Egan, Hugh Moloney, Boogie O Meara etc etc are a different breed then? And that's just 3 guys whove hurled with Tipp in recent years that ive played rugby with. And theres countless more across the country" Just add on to that if you read my post again...
Can you name a time when a rugby match was prioritised over a hurling match for any of the three?
Silly argument and insulting reply to my post
tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 29/11/2016 16:15:39
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Ireland in general is one of the biggest bandwagon nations in the world. It's seen across all sports including the GAA but its seen at its biggest in rugby. There's a huge number of people that "follow" rugby in all the Provinces that no little or nothing about the game and have never played any sport at any level. My own friends and relatives included.
It's way down the pecking order still in terms of popularity. There's massive numbers of GAA and soccer clubs compared to rugby. In a world context its very much a minority sport also and in TIpp there's only a tiny % of kids playing rugby.
Ormond whats the % of soccer/GAA clubs to the handful of rugby clubs? 10 to 1 or even 15 to 1 I'd hazard a guess
tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 29/11/2016 16:22:45
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I stand to be corrected but thankfully very very few GAA players pick rugby over GAA. It's a different breed in general that play rugby and let it stay that way!!
tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts:1677 - 29/11/2016 15:10:07
theres a lad from roscrea playing rugby for young munster now on extended ireland 20s panel - who played in both 2015 all ireland minor hurling and football finals for tipp scoring in both i bet you probably even cheered him ....where does he stand in your different breed theory ?? id view him as a different breed - a guys who is good and plays a high level at 3 sports!!
janesboro (Limerick) - Posts: 1502 - 29/11/2016 17:21:47
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It's seen across all sports including the GAA but its seen at its biggest in rugby. -gaa and soccer have big bandwagons too e.g. 40k tipp fans at all ireland final (i was at it too and cheered for ye in senior game) compared to around 5k at tipp couty final. But i dont view a bandwagon as a bag thing.
There's a huge number of people that "follow" rugby in all the Provinces that no little or nothing about the game and have never played any sport at any level. My own friends and relatives included. you could say the same about GAA
It's way down the pecking order still in terms of popularity. would be either fourth or fifth probably fourth after football soccer hurling , with possibly horse racing 5th , but in terms of crowds at matches it is competitive e.g. look at the crowds tipp limerick waterford clare and cork get in football and kerry in hurling compared to munster rugby.
There's massive numbers of GAA and soccer clubs compared to rugby. In a world context its very much a minority sport also and in TIpp there's only a tiny % of kids playing rugby. probably is - their loss, but look they are probably playing Gaa better have then playing something than nothing eh
Ormond whats the % of soccer/GAA clubs to the handful of rugby clubs? 10 to 1 or even 15 to 1 I'd hazard a guess
Tis around 2500 gaa to 220 ish rugby, in munster there are 68 rugby clubs in limerick we have 69 gaa clubs, so what - both rugby and gaa are great sports
janesboro (Limerick) - Posts: 1502 - 29/11/2016 17:34:20
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Well I know two of them personally which makes your statement actually weirder! Did they take it seriously? Dara has played numerous sports but has only played hurling seriously. We've all played soccer and the likes to keep active
tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts:1677 - 29/11/2016 16:13:23 Egan did and Moloney did. Both played AIL for Nenagh... They certainly did take it seriously. What exactly do you mean by that anyway?
Ireland in general is one of the biggest bandwagon nations in the world. It's seen across all sports including the GAA but its seen at its biggest in rugby. There's a huge number of people that "follow" rugby in all the Provinces that no little or nothing about the game and have never played any sport at any level. My own friends and relatives included.
It's way down the pecking order still in terms of popularity. There's massive numbers of GAA and soccer clubs compared to rugby. In a world context its very much a minority sport also and in TIpp there's only a tiny % of kids playing rugby.
Ormond whats the % of soccer/GAA clubs to the handful of rugby clubs? 10 to 1 or even 15 to 1 I'd hazard a guess
tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts:1677 - 29/11/2016 16:22:45 Why are you using the term bandwagon as such a negative? What exactly makes you a bandwagoner? A supporter is a supporter regardless of how they support the team. Its the exact same with soccer. There is 000s who never play the sport but follow manu or whoever like their life depended on it.
ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 29/11/2016 17:34:58
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"40k tipp fans at all ireland final (i was at it too and cheered for ye in senior game) compared to around 5k at tipp couty final"
There's 2 senior clubs involved in a county final...every hurling fan in the county is not obliged to attend to avoid being labelled a bandwagon-jumper.
keeper7 (Longford) - Posts: 4088 - 29/11/2016 18:30:01
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Replying To keeper7: "Janesboro,
"40k tipp fans at all ireland final (i was at it too and cheered for ye in senior game) compared to around 5k at tipp couty final"
There's 2 senior clubs involved in a county final...every hurling fan in the county is not obliged to attend to avoid being labelled a bandwagon-jumper." Fair.point, OK limk v tipp first round had 25k about 12kish from tipp, compared to.40k tipp fans at final, that's a bandwagon, for me a bandwagon.is a good thing as it means big games get bug crowds it ain't.just a rugby thing
janesboro (Limerick) - Posts: 1502 - 29/11/2016 18:52:22
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I have to say labelling someone a "different breed" is kinda as insulting as it gets!
I'm sort of wondering what makes someone a different breed and why someone is worthy of that label because they play a different sport. Thought that day was done with to be honest.
tearintom (Wexford) - Posts: 1336 - 29/11/2016 19:17:05
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A couple of thousand in Pearse Park on Sunday for Mullinalaghta V St. Vincent's. Meanwhile, next door in the Rugby Club Longford 'firsts' played Carlow in a top of the table league clash...looked about 40 people in attendance.
keeper7 (Longford) - Posts: 4088 - 29/11/2016 23:51:33
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Replying To janesboro: "Fair.point, OK limk v tipp first round had 25k about 12kish from tipp, compared to.40k tipp fans at final, that's a bandwagon, for me a bandwagon.is a good thing as it means big games get bug crowds it ain't.just a rugby thing" yes but on a different level in rugby..you refuse to compare like with like..comparing a club game with the all ireland final is cheap
alano12 (Dublin) - Posts: 2208 - 30/11/2016 00:19:01
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Replying To ormondbannerman: "I can tell you as one that has witnessed the progression of Rugby and the beautiful Game PRO's selling foreign games to us over the years that alot of people are fooled because the see the white collared fellows that drink in a certain pub in the local Town, eat dinner in the evening when most of us are milking and have a nice little picture in the local papers at the Horsey Ball , Charity ball or what ever its nice to be seen at. These fellows and is it WAGS that the Girls are known as dont have much in common with the locals in Town
I say treat Rugby as opposition to out National sport
tomsmith (Cavan) - Posts:2823 - 29/11/2016 11:21:49Thankfully most people are more progressive and better than that. Your snobbery is only a small proportion. Your use of cliche is tired and outdated.
I agree that Rugby enjoys all the media hype especially from RTE whose director of sports is an avid rugby supporter.
The amount of coverage rugby gets from our national broadcaster has increased dramatically over the last number of years.
It will never topple the Gaelic games though in this country. It is only played sparingly after al while the GAA is in every parish and is the hub of every parish.
Cavan_Slasher (Cavan) - Posts:10002 - 29/11/2016 11:40:16But has rugby coverage from RTE increased dramatically? They dont show pro12 which they used to. They dont show european cup games like they used to. They show much less club rugby than they did. They have lost out on coverage of world cups.
All sports are played sparingly compared to gaelic games, which is multiple sports,,..., but rugby is played by a considerable proportion of people.
The episode with Martin Johnson at Lansdowne Rd a few years illustrates the point, when he made our president step off the red carpet and walk on the grass. Can you imagine him doing that in any other sport? I any other country? But he knew he could get away with it, because they are nearly all ex-British colonies and ex-public schoolboys.
befair (Down) - Posts:133 - 29/11/2016 11:48:33I respect Martin Johnson for doing that. It showed a ruthlessness and belief in winning. He was told the wrong side/went to wrong side and didnt back down." rugby is not played by a considerable proportion of people compared to soccer and gaa when u take into account the coverage it receives
alano12 (Dublin) - Posts: 2208 - 30/11/2016 00:21:26
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Replying To keeper7: "A couple of thousand in Pearse Park on Sunday for Mullinalaghta V St. Vincent's. Meanwhile, next door in the Rugby Club Longford 'firsts' played Carlow in a top of the table league clash...looked about 40 people in attendance." Hey I've played in.load of games which had less.than 40 attending so dont knock em
I've played in.game that had more subs than.spectators!
OK I admit comparing club game to all.Ireland final was silly of me, but 40k tipp fans at final.compared to 12k at munster semi, limerick would be the same, there bandwagon.in gaa too, so what coz it ain't a bad thing
janesboro (Limerick) - Posts: 1502 - 30/11/2016 00:47:16
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Im still puzzled about the "a different breed comment"
What constitutes a different? Are you a different breed if you enjoy a game of rugby? Are Rugby players and supporters a different breed?
Was Anthony Foley a different brred (RIP), Paul O Connel, Tadgh Furlong, Sean O Brien, Rory Best, Brian O driscoll, John Hayes are these all different breeds
Is it just Rugby or does it apply to other sports, are Roy Keane, Paul Mc Grath, Packie Bonner and Robbie Keane etc different breeds? Is Katie Taylor a different breed or Conor Mc Gregor? Ken Doherty, was he a different breed, whats the qualification criteria for not being a different breed? I wonder will people admit as to why they think they are different those rugby boys?
Was Michael Cusack a different breed seeing as he had a love and support for Cricket and played with Blackrock Cricket Club etc?
Its funny but i see an awful lot of anti rugby comments from posters who extoll the virtues of our Gaelic games yet in certain counties said same posters wouldnt even be able to display the basic skills of the greatest of our native games in the form of hurling and actively ignore the game itself. Are they a different breed, those that wouldnt even know how to hold a hurl?
Personally i dont get it, theres plenty of room for people who want to play rugby, chess, hockey, soccer and GAA in our little country.
tearintom (Wexford) - Posts: 1336 - 30/11/2016 08:48:58
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Replying To ormondbannerman: "He should have got chinned for doing it, however, you keep bending over there ormo
bumpernut (Antrim) - Posts:1519 - 29/11/2016 14:23:58Who would have benefited from "chinning" him? As Ireland would have started game with 14 and I respect Johnson for doing it. It showed a ruthlessness and bloodymindedness that if an irish man/team had done the same they would have been praised through the roof.
I stand to be corrected but thankfully very very few GAA players pick rugby over GAA. It's a different breed in general that play rugby and let it stay that way!!
tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts:1674 - 29/11/2016 15:10:07 Weird post and completely wrong. So Tipp hurlers like Darragh Egan, Hugh Moloney, Boogie O Meara etc etc are a different breed then? And that's just 3 guys whove hurled with Tipp in recent years that ive played rugby with. And theres countless more across the country" Some things in life are simply wrong so get off your knees ffs....he showed disrespect to our Head of State and should have been knocked out.
Do you think if the shoe had been on the other foot he wouldn't have confronted the irish team, in fact sky sports would still be talking about it.
Here's a wee link below with Steve Thompson quoting what he said to the other English players.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/article-1367774/SIX-NATIONS-2011-Martin-Samuel-day-Martin-Johnson-pulled-carpet-Irish.html
bumpernut (Antrim) - Posts: 1852 - 30/11/2016 10:00:17
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Replying To ormondbannerman: "Well I know two of them personally which makes your statement actually weirder! Did they take it seriously? Dara has played numerous sports but has only played hurling seriously. We've all played soccer and the likes to keep active
tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts:1677 - 29/11/2016 16:13:23 Egan did and Moloney did. Both played AIL for Nenagh... They certainly did take it seriously. What exactly do you mean by that anyway?
Ireland in general is one of the biggest bandwagon nations in the world. It's seen across all sports including the GAA but its seen at its biggest in rugby. There's a huge number of people that "follow" rugby in all the Provinces that no little or nothing about the game and have never played any sport at any level. My own friends and relatives included.
It's way down the pecking order still in terms of popularity. There's massive numbers of GAA and soccer clubs compared to rugby. In a world context its very much a minority sport also and in TIpp there's only a tiny % of kids playing rugby.
Ormond whats the % of soccer/GAA clubs to the handful of rugby clubs? 10 to 1 or even 15 to 1 I'd hazard a guess
tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts:1677 - 29/11/2016 16:22:45 Why are you using the term bandwagon as such a negative? What exactly makes you a bandwagoner? A supporter is a supporter regardless of how they support the team. Its the exact same with soccer. There is 000s who never play the sport but follow manu or whoever like their life depended on it." No they certainly didn't. How many games, consecutive games and consecutive years did they play rugby for Ormond? There's your answer on what it meant to them. It's an irrelevant point anyway in the general context.
Yes you're correct. As I said Ireland is full of bandwagon supporters. Golf, MMA being two more that irk me.
We all want big crowds at games. What's wrong with these is that I nearly missed out on an All Ireland ticket this year (despite not missing a cship game) and yet I seen two people I knew sitting near the President in the Hogan, at their very first Tipp match. Would the Tipp players consider these supporters considering they couldn't even name one player before the game?
tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 30/11/2016 11:58:39
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Replying To janesboro: "I stand to be corrected but thankfully very very few GAA players pick rugby over GAA. It's a different breed in general that play rugby and let it stay that way!!
tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts:1677 - 29/11/2016 15:10:07
theres a lad from roscrea playing rugby for young munster now on extended ireland 20s panel - who played in both 2015 all ireland minor hurling and football finals for tipp scoring in both i bet you probably even cheered him ....where does he stand in your different breed theory ?? id view him as a different breed - a guys who is good and plays a high level at 3 sports!!" Theres a few words you missed "very very few" and "in general"
I wish him every success. A very talented young lad, who I'd rather have playing GAA but he was brought up playing rugby more so than GAA anyway
tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 30/11/2016 12:03:46
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Replying To tiobraid: "Theres a few words you missed "very very few" and "in general"
I wish him every success. A very talented young lad, who I'd rather have playing GAA but he was brought up playing rugby more so than GAA anyway" Tiobraid you should know by now that on topics like this anecdotal, isolated evidence is not the exception but the general rule.
Breffni40 (Cavan) - Posts: 12118 - 30/11/2016 12:22:07
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