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Replying To Pericles: "So what was Harrison supposed to do, turn blue and pass out? After a 70 minute game that could happen very quickly even if you're exceptionally fit. What the Clare lad was doing was dangerous." Presumably you had no problem with Diarmuid Connolly striking Lee Keegan to escape a headlock in the 2015 semi-final then Pericles? Mickmick (Dublin) - Posts: 104 - 11/07/2017 11:25:46 2014799 Link
Replying To Whammo86: "You're having a laugh mate talking about not being able to breathe. He was trying to lift Sexton even before Sexton had him in a headlock. He is the aggressor pretty much throughout, Sexton only goes near his neck when Harrison starts boring his head into Sexton's chest. Around the neck is dangerous stuff and should be punished but let's not pretend that up to that point Harrison was completely innocent and just body slammed Sexton purely in self defence. He was able to be put in a headlock because he lowered his head so that he could get at Sexton's knee. If he'd relented when Sexton had him in the headlock the situation would have calmed long before he passed out." Pure conjecture there Wham, but that's the way you saw it. I agree with your earlier post that there's far too much going on that isn't football in all games. Clare and Mayo don't have any history, yet players seem programmed to do whatever it takes. Afterwards players who'd been at eachother during the game seem friendly enough, which shows how much they believe that getting under eachother's skin and sly digs, dives and everything else is part of the game in the spirit of gaining every edge. This seems to have become accepted for the most part, as we all know. Pericles (Mayo) - Posts: 2521 - 11/07/2017 11:41:11 2014813 Link
Replying To Pericles: "What's the middle ground bearing in mind he couldn't breath? How long do you think he had to consider a better option to have the stranglehold released? Bear in mind that he'd have been gasping for breath even before the Clare lad got him in the lock. We all breath by instinct and react instinctively if someone cuts it off. It wasn't a case red mist, it was a reaction against black out." I agree with you on this choking someone out is very dangerous and anyone doing this should be banned for a year. Cormac Costello did it to Brian o'beaglaoih in last years allireland semifinal and you could see on the video brian (who is only 19 ) just flopping to the ground . It so dangerous, also the tackle around the neck should be punished more and the fellas going in with their knees to players heads while the go down to pick up the ball needs to be punished more harshly IMO. KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 11/07/2017 12:12:53 2014846 Link
Replying To maigheoabu2016: "Whilst watching the sunday game last night, I wanted to see what the panel would say about mayo vs clare. I'm amazed by the panel how they chose to talk about and singling out 2 mayo players, and did not talk about any galway or roscommon players and the big melee which ended up with galway down to 13 players at the end. There was plenty of melees and battles within all the games at the wend, but the bias which the sunday game has now is infuriating. At least with sky, you get analysis both good and bad, but there is no agenda, which cant be said about the sunday game." From watching the Sunday game Barrett of Mayo executed what one would call a dangerous tip tackle in rugby. Not enough was said about it. Who puts such bland opening posts? Of course pundits have an agenda! It's the GAA and has, is and will be parochial. Some opening posts are like questions children at Cumann na mBunscoil would ask. KK1926 (Kilkenny) - Posts: 175 - 11/07/2017 12:55:48 2014884 Link
Replying To Mfs: "if anybody ever doubted there was an agenda there they could have no doubts after last night. really time this outdated program was axed. I really can't see it back for another season. They can make changes to set and format of the program all they want but the brand is toxic and must go." Of course it'll be back. The Sunday Game viewership is huge. What wishful thinking on your part. KK1926 (Kilkenny) - Posts: 175 - 11/07/2017 12:57:00 2014886 Link
Replying To maigheoabu2016: "Whilst watching the sunday game last night, I wanted to see what the panel would say about mayo vs clare. I'm amazed by the panel how they chose to talk about and singling out 2 mayo players, and did not talk about any galway or roscommon players and the big melee which ended up with galway down to 13 players at the end. There was plenty of melees and battles within all the games at the wend, but the bias which the sunday game has now is infuriating. At least with sky, you get analysis both good and bad, but there is no agenda, which cant be said about the sunday game." Harrisson not Barrett. KK1926 (Kilkenny)* - Posts: 175 - 11/07/2017 12:58:04 2014887 Link
Replying To KK1926: "From watching the Sunday game Barrett of Mayo executed what one would call a dangerous tip tackle in rugby. Not enough was said about it. Who puts such bland opening posts? Of course pundits have an agenda! It's the GAA and has, is and will be parochial. Some opening posts are like questions children at Cumann na mBunscoil would ask." Janey you don't hold back! Laois76 (Laois) - Posts: 1270 - 11/07/2017 13:17:05 2014902 Link
Replying To KingdomBoy1: "I agree with you on this choking someone out is very dangerous and anyone doing this should be banned for a year. Cormac Costello did it to Brian o'beaglaoih in last years allireland semifinal and you could see on the video brian (who is only 19 ) just flopping to the ground . It so dangerous, also the tackle around the neck should be punished more and the fellas going in with their knees to players heads while the go down to pick up the ball needs to be punished more harshly IMO." I had an experience once of a lad trying to take my head off with a short arm and coming out the worst. Next thing I knew his big brother came in behind me and grabbed hold of my wind pipe with a fist clinch. With no air I ended up on one knee and even though he had me like that for a short time, probably only 10 seconds, until one of the other lads lifted off, I was getting pretty desperate to catch a breath. So locks are far from harmless, they can very quickly lead to blackout when you're puffed. Refs often treat them leniently because no blows are landed, though to be fair on that occasion yer man and the bro both got the road... they had a bit of a bad rep. Pericles (Mayo) - Posts: 2521 - 11/07/2017 13:37:45 2014934 Link
Replying To Mickmick: "Presumably you had no problem with Diarmuid Connolly striking Lee Keegan to escape a headlock in the 2015 semi-final then Pericles?" None Mick... I didn't at the time either. Pericles (Mayo) - Posts: 2521 - 11/07/2017 13:47:59 2014938 Link
Replying To KK1926: "From watching the Sunday game Barrett of Mayo executed what one would call a dangerous tip tackle in rugby. Not enough was said about it. Who puts such bland opening posts? Of course pundits have an agenda! It's the GAA and has, is and will be parochial. Some opening posts are like questions children at Cumann na mBunscoil would ask." It was dangerous alright but not a tip tackle. GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7345 - 11/07/2017 14:08:09 2014954 Link
Replying To Breffni39: "Maybe I need to watch it again but his collision with the keeper instigated the incident and caused the Clare players to react. No doubt you think this was accidental." Breff I have said on here before COC is no saint and have highlighted a couple of incidents where in the past he got away with incidents that were possibly red cards but I am telling you the amount of abuse he got off the ball on Saturday was beyond a joke. The Clare number 4 should have got the line, the number 3 as well and the goalkeeper came out to join the fun on a couple of occasions as well. He didn't react to multiple things that happened on Saturday. There is also a video on Youtube highlighting another incident, which was so obvious at the time we were expecting the umpire to call the ref in and at the very least give the number 4 a black card, possibly a red. All that went un-noticed by everyone including the Sunday game analysts. Not sure what the umpires are there for! TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 7896 - 12/07/2017 12:06:09 2015495 Link
Replying To TheFlaker: "Breff I have said on here before COC is no saint and have highlighted a couple of incidents where in the past he got away with incidents that were possibly red cards but I am telling you the amount of abuse he got off the ball on Saturday was beyond a joke. The Clare number 4 should have got the line, the number 3 as well and the goalkeeper came out to join the fun on a couple of occasions as well. He didn't react to multiple things that happened on Saturday. There is also a video on Youtube highlighting another incident, which was so obvious at the time we were expecting the umpire to call the ref in and at the very least give the number 4 a black card, possibly a red. All that went un-noticed by everyone including the Sunday game analysts. Not sure what the umpires are there for!" I take your word for it Flaker but all forwards are target like that and the majority don't get up to his carry on. Breffni40 (Cavan) - Posts: 12120 - 12/07/2017 12:36:14 2015514 Link
Replying To Breffni39: "I take your word for it Flaker but all forwards are target like that and the majority don't get up to his carry on." Have a quick look here Breff. You tell me if all forwards are treated like this one example. Nobody minds one on one, man to man marking but this carry on is ridiculous. How none of the officials didn't spot it and more I'll never know https://youtu.be/sky8ojZPdKE Weary (None) - Posts: 249 - 12/07/2017 15:01:37 2015636 Link
Replying To Weary: "Have a quick look here Breff. You tell me if all forwards are treated like this one example. Nobody minds one on one, man to man marking but this carry on is ridiculous. How none of the officials didn't spot it and more I'll never know https://youtu.be/sky8ojZPdKE" Nothing out of the ordinary in that. He's actually looking for a free there. Could very easily have stayed on his feet. Lol at the description: "Some of off the ball treatment Cillian has to put up with. This happened seconds before the nothing incident highlighted by the Dublin gaa commercial manager on the Sunday game." Obsessed with Dublin and a strike to the face is not a nothing incident. Breffni40 (Cavan) - Posts: 12120 - 12/07/2017 15:31:31 2015655 Link
Replying To Weary: "Have a quick look here Breff. You tell me if all forwards are treated like this one example. Nobody minds one on one, man to man marking but this carry on is ridiculous. How none of the officials didn't spot it and more I'll never know https://youtu.be/sky8ojZPdKE" Strange that the Sunday game panelists, since McStay left, can never seem to spot the off the ball incidents where Mayo lads are the victims. Two stood out after last years drawn final but, like this one, were missed by all panelists involved. Would a little bit of balance be too much to ask for. Still maybe it's all just an honest mistake........... On another note is it any wonder that Connolly reacts from time to time, you need fierce discipline to put up with that sh*. Llaw_Gyffes (Mayo)** - Posts: 1113 - 12/07/2017 15:42:27 2015663 Link
Replying To Weary: "Have a quick look here Breff. You tell me if all forwards are treated like this one example. Nobody minds one on one, man to man marking but this carry on is ridiculous. How none of the officials didn't spot it and more I'll never know https://youtu.be/sky8ojZPdKE" There's no way between the ref, two umpires and two linesmen that none of them spotted it. It's par for the course for a lot of forwards and then what Connolly has to put up with is on the next level. People used to say we were soft, not streetwise enough, not defensive enough, too gungho, always some explanation why we haven't won Sam. Now we have a top class freetaker, we're maybe too streetwise at times, looking for frees rather than kicking points or looking for goals. I was thinking what would be like without Cillian, obviously he's always gonna start when he's fit. But hypothetically if we had to play a game where we couldn't take frees. We'd be forced to take shots, like the Dublin's, the Kerry's, the Tyrone's do with ease. Rather than be fearful when a shot is on and looking for someone else to take responsibility, or 'ownership' as the Yanks would say. Our forwards aren't as bad from play as they're looking. I think it's more down to a lack of confidence than ability. But there's no point having ability if you don't back yourself to show it. GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7345 - 12/07/2017 15:52:45 2015670 Link
I'm suspicious that the Sunday Game "agenda" is set by what comes through social media. Twitter erupted after both the Connolly and Harrison incidents with a lot of people tagging the Sunday Game Twitter handle. I can understand why Mayo fans would be annoyed at a Dub and a Kerryman being given free reign, especially after the whole Lee Keegan saga last year but I don't think either Cooper or Quinn were overly harsh and they didn't spend much time on it. roundball (Tipperary) - Posts: 2514 - 12/07/2017 16:38:03 2015695 Link
Some agenda, not a mention of either incident since the Sunday game. At this point Connolly would own the back page and be breaking the internet. Marse (Dublin) - Posts: 217 - 12/07/2017 18:16:49 2015753 Link
Replying To Marse: "Some agenda, not a mention of either incident since the Sunday game. At this point Connolly would own the back page and be breaking the internet." But this is about Sunday Game. If Connolly was all over the back pages then it surely proves that the Sunday Game wasn't on its own when it came to Connolly Weary (None) - Posts: 249 - 12/07/2017 21:26:24 2015824 Link
Replying To Breffni39: "I take your word for it Flaker but all forwards are target like that and the majority don't get up to his carry on." I disagree the majority are targeted like that to be honest. But you are entitled to your opinion. It was a joke what went on Saturday night. TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 7896 - 12/07/2017 21:45:30 2015829 Link