Are you blaming the capitulation against those teams on playing in Croker? In my eyes ye were just beaten by teams who were much better than ye at that time. Dublin are not as hated as you seem to think ye are (well not until ye won last year anyway and snuff and the like raised there heads). A lot of people around the country were rooting for Dublin last year v Kerry, myself included.

There is serious pressure in playing for Kerry as if you have a bad day you will be the talk of your home place. Other teams have similar pressures for differing reasons so the dubs are not alone in that sense. Maybe its you that has the tunnel vision.

I can't honestly see a single reason why playing every championship game in Dublin is not a big help to them. The players get to sleep in their own beds, are not drained a single bit from 3 hours of travelling to the venue, have bigger support behind them, know the pitch better than anybody else, can rely on the same match day routine each time, and so on.

I really think ye are mad to try and fight this one. Doyles point was valid and this side show of the dubs being the GAA cash cow is irrelevant to the point he was trying to make as all he was saying is from a players point of view they are at an unfair disadvantage going into this weekends game.

tj09 (Cork) - Posts: 481 - 29/06/2012 15:37:18    1205046

I'll ask again, Wexford had home advantage in 2010 why did they not play the game in Wexford?

Jackeen (Dublin) - Posts: 4097 - 29/06/2012 15:39:57    1205048

Jackeen
County: Dublin
Posts: 1912

1205048 I'll ask again, Wexford had home advantage in 2010 why did they not play the game in Wexford?

To make more money for the greater good of the GAA right? Fair play Wexford.

Breffni40 (Cavan) - Posts: 12494 - 29/06/2012 15:44:49    1205051

It was a serious question Breff! Someone who claims to have been on the board when the decision was made to play in Croke park said they knew why!

Jackeen (Dublin) - Posts: 4097 - 29/06/2012 15:49:39    1205057

breff your a bundle of laughs.

superbluedub (Dublin) - Posts: 2901 - 29/06/2012 17:53:05    1205146

we did not have home adv. in 2010 thats a lie

Stmunnsriver (Wexford) - Posts: 3115 - 29/06/2012 17:59:30    1205151

No its not, I remember that!

lilypad (Kildare) - Posts: 1363 - 29/06/2012 19:10:52    1205192

Aindreas
County: Wexford
Posts: 275

1205151
we did not have home adv. in 2010 thats a lie


You did but you waived it!

Jackeen (Dublin) - Posts: 4097 - 29/06/2012 20:06:10    1205224

people claiming that the GAA are making dublin play in Croker for financial reasons are covering up the real issue here - it is the fact that playing there is an advantage that prompts these decisions from the GAA.

if it was so important to have the gate receipts coming in as much as is being made out here, then i will ask this: why is the seeding system in place in the leinster championship? no other province uses it and if it were scrapped in leinster, dublin would probably get an extra game in croker. . .so if gate receipts were the real reason, then this would be happening.

if you take a step back it is easy to see; the advantage that playing in croker gives to the dubs is ideal for the GAA as it allows the dubs to progress in the championship and appeals to those bandwagon supporters who would not make the trip to carlow, wexford, etc.

as regards the issue of clubs down the country needing dublin games in croker to survive, i can tell you that my own club built its clubrooms and developed its grounds on the back of a credit union loan, while many clubs use national lottery funding for their development.

cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 5331 - 29/06/2012 20:11:14    1205229

Jackeen
County: Dublin
Posts: 1914

1205224
Aindreas
County: Wexford
Posts: 275

1205151
we did not have home adv. in 2010 thats a lie

You did but you waived it!

What do you have to back that up? Or are you just turning a blind eye again?

moomoo (Kerry) - Posts: 4023 - 29/06/2012 20:18:27    1205233

i could be wrong and stand corrected if so but im nearly sure in '09 when the times and places were set for the championship that wexford was set for the main event however the powers to be stepped in and said they would lose to much money and that it was to be played in croke park i think a few people might be getting mixed up with mayo saying they would prefer croker there their hometown or maybe its me getting mixed up ;-)...

dubbydave. (Dublin) - Posts: 3927 - 29/06/2012 22:01:38    1205314

Spade a Spade
Wexford should have beaten Dublin in 2010 but didn't! Had they played the game in Wexford Would the result have been different? Possibly! Why didn't they play in Wexford park ? Wexford wanted to Play in Croker!

Last year Wedford had their chance to beat an out of sorts Dublin! Result Dublin won by three points!

I've been supporting Dublin since 85 and have only once seen Dublin knocked out of Leinster in the first round! Where was the match? Croker v Meath in 91

From what I can gather teams that don't have a great history of winning Leinster (Wexford Laois Louth Wicklow etc) prefer to play Dublin in Croker! Defeating Dublin in front of the hill rather than a grass bank in a provincial ground is a much bigger prize!
But Dublin are all Ireland champions now and are a good team which results in the weaker counties in Leinster for the time being not having a snowballs chance against Them! Andreas knows it! Ryan knows it!

Had Wexford demanded their home advantage in 2010 be upheld I'd side with their current grievience but they didn't! They saw glory against a Dublin team under new management and came very close to beating Dublin but again didn't
Now Dublin are a good side and with the same arrangement as 2010 it's all of a sudden an advantage to Dublin
Wexford! If your good enough you'll beat Dublin on any pitch!


Dubs by eight

bernardmessi (Dublin) - Posts: 182 - 30/06/2012 09:46:36    1205329

I think we'll all have to differ on this one I am afraid. After all the posts and arguments we are still being asked the same question and the response is the same. The GAA can't make Dublin win anything fortunately we have to it on the pitch like everyone else. Where we play gives a huge pay day to the GAA, we are caught in this as much as anyone. Your team losing abysmally in front of 80K cuts both ways. The Leinster Board and the GAA between need the money end off.

arock (Dublin) - Posts: 4968 - 30/06/2012 09:59:26    1205333

There is a piece in the Indo today from Billy Keane about this. Sounds like Kerry people still have forgiven us for 2011.

witnof (Dublin) - Posts: 1604 - 30/06/2012 10:33:46    1205341

The problem is obvious here isn't it? This most recent piece in the paper confirms it. Culchies are jealous of the Dubs and will stop at nothing to put the boot into them, simple as that. The Dubs and their support are the Gaa sure, be criminal not to pander to them at every possible opportunity.

Bosco (Carlow) - Posts: 664 - 30/06/2012 11:09:13    1205361

Ye have it in a nutshell bosco,

now close this thread , its going no where.

AthCliath (Dublin) - Posts: 4347 - 30/06/2012 14:15:57    1205445

I strongly disagree with andreas here. Leave the dubs in croke park. The last time i remember the boys in blue coming down to play us in wexford park their fans decided to climb onto the roof of the old stand and have a party, down with this sort of thing

theanylist (Wexford) - Posts: 151 - 30/06/2012 15:00:19    1205465

The roof collapsed as well, Wexford park was a bit of a hole back then! Tight game as far as I can remember 11-7
As I dub I would live to be heading to Wexford in the morning and there is a large portion of the dubs support that would like to travel also.

bernardmessi (Dublin) - Posts: 182 - 30/06/2012 17:58:05    1205658

Fair play to the home crowd. When the players didnt have it in them they put their shoulder to the wheel and jeered every free brosnan had to take into the hill enough times to win the dubs the game. But of course, that can be a disadvantage to the dubs too. Somehow...

TheMaster (Mayo) - Posts: 16187 - 03/07/2012 11:02:08    1208101

Master it really is amazing how many tykes can fit into such a small space on the hill.

lochgarmanabu (Wexford) - Posts: 1022 - 03/07/2012 11:28:03    1208136