National - Carlow vs Monaghan

Will it be another easy win for monaghan or will there be a huge upset ....

larrymullanjr (Monaghan) - Posts:71 - 10/07/2017 10:06:34   2013749

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Yes no disrespect to Carlow they beat 2 Div 4 teams in the qualifiers in London and Leitrim. This should be a win for Monaghan by 5+

kupa (Monaghan) - Posts:156 - 10/07/2017 10:19:48   2013771

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Replying To kupa:  "Yes no disrespect to Carlow they beat 2 Div 4 teams in the qualifiers in London and Leitrim. This should be a win for Monaghan by 5+"
I'm actually hoping for a bigger winning margan. We need a strong performance and a decent 9 or 10 point win.

larrymullanjr (Monaghan) - Posts:71 - 10/07/2017 10:35:12   2013791

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As a Monaghan fan I remember Offaly and Longford in recent years in the qualifiers.
Carlow must be on an absolute high!! Playing football in July, they'll be absolutely flying.

If both teams play to the top of their ability Monaghan should win.

But anything can happen.......

bigfrankt (Monaghan) - Posts:77 - 10/07/2017 10:51:14   2013810

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Brendan Murphy will be back. Monaghan should win by 5+ but with Murphy back Carlow have a chance.

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts:3945 - 10/07/2017 10:59:47   2013814

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As long as we don't get too complacent and go into the game giving Carlow their due respect, we shouldn't have a problem here in all honesty. And god knows we've been forewarned enough when it comes to underestimating teams!

Obviously we've had some bad defeats in the qualifiers in recent years to teams we were expected to beat(usually Leinster teams too), but most of the time those defeats have come in our first qualifier game after getting knocked out in Ulster. We've often struggled to lift the heads after a disappointing Ulster exit, especially if we only had a week to prepare for the qualifiers. But we already have a convincing win away from home under our belts in the back door this year, so we should have put the Ulster exit behind us at this stage and have a bit of momentum behind us now.

Carlow will be a big improvement over Wexford but I'd be shocked if they caused an upset here.

patk (Monaghan) - Posts:562 - 10/07/2017 11:08:49   2013832

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Carlow have been exceptional this year, I heard Steven Poacher had been doing a lot of S&C work with them and they put in an exceptional performance against All Ireland Champions Dublin in the Leinster Championship. Brendan Murphy and Sean Murphy could arguably stake a place in any County panel around the Country. The problem here is that Monaghan are now up and running in the Qualifiers, they were caught cold last year by Longford. I can't see them taking Carlow lightly after they watch the game against Dublin, and so I would expect Monaghan to win this game. It won't be easy though, Turlough O'Brien has built a formidable and physical Carlow side who are more than capable of sticking it to Monaghan.

GaryMc82 (Derry) - Posts:2919 - 10/07/2017 13:12:14   2013977

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Carlow are improving there is no doubt about that, but this is a Monaghan team a lot further down the road in terms of physical development and tactically and probably mentally, but for Carlow to improve we need games like this that test us and show us where we need to be at. Although I was disappointed we didn't gain promotion this year I still think its been a year of progress and a good performance Saturday will set us up well for next season. Normally at this time of the year we are observers its a great feeling to still have a championship game to look forward to mid July

Barrowsider (Carlow) - Posts:984 - 10/07/2017 22:21:33   2014563

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Carlow no doubt improving and will definitely put it up to us but this is a Monaghan side fast approaching the moment of truth in terms of getting deeper into the championship than previously. Have not really arrived yet this Summer into championship mode which Down exposed big time and the suspicion is Malachy has them primed to peak for Croke Park this year.

seanie08 (Monaghan) - Posts:1133 - 11/07/2017 08:24:03   2014678

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Monaghan to win by 7-10 points and Brendan Murphy to be sent off again

hurlorhurley (Wexford) - Posts:639 - 11/07/2017 10:37:40   2014773

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Carlow by 3. Monaghan in for a shock!!!

novalis (Carlow) - Posts:161 - 11/07/2017 11:52:10   2014824

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Replying To hurlorhurley:  "Monaghan to win by 7-10 points and Brendan Murphy to be sent off again"
Will we finish with 13 players like Wexford?

carlovia (All) - Posts:609 - 11/07/2017 13:29:54   2014921

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Replying To novalis:  "Carlow by 3. Monaghan in for a shock!!!"
Sorry but I think maybe your in shock.

larrymullanjr (Monaghan) - Posts:71 - 11/07/2017 13:59:31   2014946

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Replying To carlovia:  "Will we finish with 13 players like Wexford?"
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Stmunnsriver (Wexford) - Posts:1449 - 11/07/2017 14:28:58   2014978

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Carlow have been lucky with the draws so far - till Monaghan! Wexford were poor, lost their 2 midfielders in first half and Carlow played well in the second half to win. Against the Dubs - they contained them as well as they could and against London - lucky with the draw - getting another Div 4 county and we got over the line. Against Leitrim - another lowly county Carlow played well in the second half. Their confidence has naturally increased with winning and with winning the performances has improved. It is doubtful if a performance can be put together to beat Maonaghan. 2 things need to happen for a shock - Monaghan to play really badly and Carlow to take absolutely every chance - unlikely that Carlow will defeat Monaghan but there is a chance. Murphy to get sent off again- he has to play first! I don't think I would start him. I think his discipline record is not good and he might play better being brought in. He has a tendency to hold up the ball and not deliver it quickly to his forwards - so - he may not start! I hope its a dry night and that we have a good game. Overall- Carlow should really take the opportunity ti really have a go and take the game to Monaghan and try to beat them. That is how teams improve and that is why we go to games! Roll on Saturday evening! Cullen Park will be throbbing!!!

carlowman (Carlow) - Posts:1336 - 11/07/2017 18:17:10   2015130

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This should be a good match, its the only rd3 qualifier that does not feature a recent all-ireland semi finalist so both teams have much to play for. Carlow can give Monaghan plenty of problems- if they get it right then Monaghans reaction will be interesting. Midfield could be an advantage for Carlow. Still, i would expect Monaghan to have 4 or 5 to spare in the end.

MadgeKing (Cavan) - Posts:224 - 11/07/2017 19:12:19   2015179

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Replying To MadgeKing:  "This should be a good match, its the only rd3 qualifier that does not feature a recent all-ireland semi finalist so both teams have much to play for. Carlow can give Monaghan plenty of problems- if they get it right then Monaghans reaction will be interesting. Midfield could be an advantage for Carlow. Still, i would expect Monaghan to have 4 or 5 to spare in the end."
You may sit back and enjoy monaghan score from all angles madge its about the only way you will see plenty of scores from a blue and white ulster side hon the farney

prideof85 (Monaghan) - Posts:647 - 11/07/2017 20:16:11   2015220

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Worst possible draw for us. Were hoping for Armagh as they are a division 3 side and struggling in general recently would have been beatable. Tipp while massively improved are still somebody we have recent memories of beating in Div 4 not so long ago. A serious side but still we'd have a chance.

Monaghan was the one we wanted to avoid, they are a top 5 team, won 2 of the last 4 Ulsters. We just this year won our 1st Leinster game in 6 years!

We are on a nice run of beating fellow div 4 sides, but this is a serious step up. We beat Wexford, London & Leitrim. Kept it respectable v Dublin, only 3 points down after 48 mins when we got Brendan Murphy sent off, then Dublin took over.

We always play defensive to a point, but after seeing Monaghan score 3-23 in Wexford, we will be scared. Can play the same as v Dublin and make it 0-6 to 0-21 or something or else try have a go. Not easy for us in these dizzy last 14 heights!

The Real 1944 (Carlow) - Posts:1036 - 11/07/2017 21:59:15   2015273

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I have only seen Carlow play once this year in the championship and that was against London which is self-explanatory, impossible to get to see the Carlow/Dublin game on sky as the landlord didn't want to know. It appears that Carlow are given the same chance against Monaghan as they were against Dublin, so be it, but in saying that there's a first time for everything, I'm still not saying Carlow is going to do this, that, and the other, but, - up to two years ago Leitrim, London and Wexford would have accounted for Carlow full stop, even allowing for the fact that they were all div.4 teams, in the same way Dublin beat Carlow and Westmeath both div.4 teams to get to the leinster final and not a word about that, but as soon as Dublin accounted for Westmeath their odd's went to 1/12.
I mentioned earlier that there's a first time for everything, in the Carlow/ Dublin game it's time since 2010 that Dublin have failed to score a goal against any county in the leinster senior football championship. Personally I don't think at this stage there's much of a difference between what's left however it is Monaghan we have and so be it.
Monaghan appear to be coming into this game with a bit of swagger shall we say, the same swagger that brought them a 1-14 to 0-15 unwelcome defeat to a misfiring Down team who are now contesting the ulster final, and good luck to them, keeping in mind a year previous the same Monaghan team sent the same Down team home after beating them 2-22 to 0-09, in less than 12 months Down turned a 0-19 drubbing into a 0-02 victory, so you see nothing is impossible if you think positive.
It's unlikely I'll get to see this game either unless I find a suitable tavern with an Irish landlord.

supersub15 (Carlow) - Posts:1639 - 11/07/2017 22:59:23   2015316

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Replying To supersub15:  "I have only seen Carlow play once this year in the championship and that was against London which is self-explanatory, impossible to get to see the Carlow/Dublin game on sky as the landlord didn't want to know. It appears that Carlow are given the same chance against Monaghan as they were against Dublin, so be it, but in saying that there's a first time for everything, I'm still not saying Carlow is going to do this, that, and the other, but, - up to two years ago Leitrim, London and Wexford would have accounted for Carlow full stop, even allowing for the fact that they were all div.4 teams, in the same way Dublin beat Carlow and Westmeath both div.4 teams to get to the leinster final and not a word about that, but as soon as Dublin accounted for Westmeath their odd's went to 1/12.
I mentioned earlier that there's a first time for everything, in the Carlow/ Dublin game it's time since 2010 that Dublin have failed to score a goal against any county in the leinster senior football championship. Personally I don't think at this stage there's much of a difference between what's left however it is Monaghan we have and so be it.
Monaghan appear to be coming into this game with a bit of swagger shall we say, the same swagger that brought them a 1-14 to 0-15 unwelcome defeat to a misfiring Down team who are now contesting the ulster final, and good luck to them, keeping in mind a year previous the same Monaghan team sent the same Down team home after beating them 2-22 to 0-09, in less than 12 months Down turned a 0-19 drubbing into a 0-02 victory, so you see nothing is impossible if you think positive.
It's unlikely I'll get to see this game either unless I find a suitable tavern with an Irish landlord."
Were in london do you live?

Yourjoking (USA) - Posts:371 - 11/07/2017 23:21:36   2015323

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