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See there on the main page that they are already at semi final stage, just getting football out of the way before hurling kicks in. Hate seeing this every year and why they can get away with it. Kilkenny is a much bigger county than most, has a "city" and should be making some kind of effort to be better at football. Their best & only club that seems interested in football Railyard try to better themselves & play in Division 2 of the Carlow league. Can't see why the other teams in the semi final can't join leagues in Waterford/Tipp/Wexford/Laois or wherever they are closest to. Put them in from u-12 level and let them play at a half decent standard all the way up. Instead of 99% going with hurling, might get a few playing football instead. The Real 1944 (Carlow) - Posts: 1114 - 22/03/2017 01:57:46 1969812 Link 0 |
Ooh you've done it now bud, I can imagine a certain poster leaving his handball alley to denounce football as the ugly game as I type. So I'll pre-empt his arrival, how's it going John?
MedwayIrish (Wexford) - Posts: 2324 - 22/03/2017 09:59:10 1969857 Link 1 |
The only reason KK football gets so much negative attention is because their hurlers win so much. How long will it take to run off the Cavan Hurling C'ship. Maybe its over already? And not just Cavan. There are many other counties whos attitude to hurling is no better than that of KK in football, yet just because KK ware winning cups they are being singled out. OR maybe its because the general view on these forums is that its ok not to like hurling but sacrilege not to participate in football. ZUL10 (Clare) - Posts: 708 - 22/03/2017 11:35:07 1969894 Link 1 |
Hurling is the National Sport of Ireland & here's one for you NOT G FOOTBALL,it never was & to this day still cannot be proved that it's even Irish ,Fermanagh have over 20 clubs & only 1 play Hurling ,50 plus clubs in Tyrone only 5 play hurling ,Leitrim 4 Hurling clubs & 5 in Sligo & Louth ,4 in Longford,Mayo ,Irelands 3rd biggest county have between 2-6 clubs at best Hurling with the same hurling final every year between Tooreen & Ballyhaunis ,Hurling in South Kildare & North Roscommon is non existent & North Carlowfor that matter ,Gaelic Football is not Irish but Hurling is ,the Gaa should pressurise these counties to have all clubs participate in the hurling championships southerncat79 (Kilkenny) - Posts: 80 - 22/03/2017 12:50:26 1969925 Link 1 |
Jesus! Buff Egan would be proud of that rant! Have you ever wondered if the element of hurling snobbery which doesn't exist to the same level in Gaelic Football might contribute to the level of interest generated within those counties? One certainly gets the impression, from the outside looking in, that Kilkenny consider football to be a sport only fit for poor hurlers. cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 5115 - 22/03/2017 13:09:48 1969939 Link 1 |
Sure it's easier to run off a competition when you've only a handful of teams , look at how the Christy Ring Cup is ran off Bon (Kildare) - Posts: 2049 - 22/03/2017 13:21:19 1969948 Link 0 |
U clearly missed the point ,Hurling Is Irish Football is not ,at the start of the GAA Cavan was initially a Hurling County ,Tradition vanishes all to easy southerncat79 (Kilkenny) - Posts: 80 - 22/03/2017 13:21:53 1969949 Link 1 |
In Kilkenny Football is a pastime at best. Southsham (Limerick) - Posts: 738 - 22/03/2017 13:28:21 1969954 Link 0 |
Cavan has 41 gaa clubs with a population of 76,092 ,Kilkenny 42 gaa clubs with a population of just over 88,000 people ,Gaelic football is play at Absolutely every level ,From Cumann Na Mbunschol to u-12 all the way to minor ,3 divisions in men's football,Senior ,intermediate & junior ,if you doubt what I'm saying then just log on to the Kilkenny website regularly & you'll see this is true ,almost all of these 42 clubs play in one of these football championships,so now can you come back to me & enlightened me as to why Cavan GAA cannot do the same for Hurling, southerncat79 (Kilkenny) - Posts: 80 - 22/03/2017 13:36:44 1969963 Link 1 |
Kilkenny play in the all junior football all ireland, the play counties in the uk ( warwickshire, herts, scotland etc ) winners of this play in all ireland semi final.
Yourjoking (USA) - Posts: 720 - 22/03/2017 13:43:25 1969969 Link 0 |
Is hurling snobbery actually a thing ? Like if I say that Hurling is a better game than football am I being a snob ? Just asking..
Finsceal (None) - Posts: 559 - 22/03/2017 13:49:07 1969971 Link 0 |
A bit of a blinkered view of history there southern cat. Many countries had a stick and ball game over the centuries. Looking at the oldest available sticks and general descriptions, hurling was most probably similar to modern day hockey or shinty (dare I say it;British sports) than hurling. bennybunny (Cork) - Posts: 3917 - 22/03/2017 13:50:05 1969972 Link 1 |
It's like the sucker in a game of poker. If you're not sure what a hurling snob is, it's you. Breffni40 (Cavan) - Posts: 12161 - 22/03/2017 13:54:58 1969975 Link 0 |
I love how when these thread come up everyone acts like they're deeply concerned about Cavan hurling. Breffni40 (Cavan) - Posts: 12161 - 22/03/2017 13:55:56 1969976 Link 0 |
Great point. The history of cricket in certain areas has often been forgotten (sometimes I wonder if its a very deliberate amnesia).
extranjero (Wexford) - Posts: 375 - 22/03/2017 14:07:28 1969978 Link 0 |
Yeah I think Cavan has become the lightning rod for comebacks against criticism of Kilkenny's attitude to football! Seems quite harsh on Cavan! I think the general point behind it is sound though. Kilkenny play far more club football than maybe 10-15 other counties play club hurling. Yeah they're not very good at inter-county level but they're not interested in being as well as the fact that they've no one to play that is at their low level in inter-county football. The poor hurling counties have strength in numbers in that regard. MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13777 - 22/03/2017 14:09:24 1969979 Link 2 |
I believe that's the most pertinent point. Kilkenny have no one at there level in the country to play football against Southsham (Limerick) - Posts: 738 - 22/03/2017 14:20:00 1969981 Link 1 |
I was always led to believe that Gaelic football was 'invented' by the early GAA to counter the growing popularity of Rugby in garrison towns and that Hurling was an ancient and noble pastime practiced by all true Gaels since the days of Finn MacCumhaill. Mind you, it was a Presentation Brother from Kilkenny that told me that. Mickmick (Dublin) - Posts: 104 - 22/03/2017 14:44:32 1969990 Link 0 |
Spot on bennybunny - Gaelic Football as we know it is derived/formalised from Caid which has been around and played for centuries. In Ireland too believe it or not.... :-)
Offside_Rule (Antrim) - Posts: 4058 - 22/03/2017 14:44:40 1969991 Link 0 |
Spot on bennybunny - Gaelic Football as we know it is derived/formalised from Caid which has been around and played for centuries. In Ireland too believe it or not.... :-)
Offside_Rule (Antrim) - Posts: 4058 - 22/03/2017 14:44:41 1969992 Link 0 |