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Dr Crokes vs S'neil

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Gooch turned down frees all day long until what he thought would have been the last kick of the game and he still put it wide N saying that Still glad to see him win his medal bit he doesn't have the bottle of say a Michael Murphy or a sean cavanagh As for the last 5 minutes ... the less said the better ! rossy15 (Roscommon) - Posts: 617 - 17/03/2017 18:40:40 1967910 Link
Well done to Crokes, but it's a sad reflection on the way the game is going that the biggest mistake in the last 5-6 minutes was the Gooch shooting from the late free. The ability of teams to constantly recycle possession and kill a game is something that will become a big issue in the coming years. catchturnscore (Longford) - Posts: 149 - 17/03/2017 18:42:51 1967912 Link
Well done Crokes. Not a great game but they won't care. Sending off had a big bearing on the game. The_Fridge (Tyrone) - Posts: 2088 - 17/03/2017 18:44:06 1967913 Link
Delighted for Croke's , particularly Colm and a lovely gesture from Johnny at the end. westkerry (Kerry) - Posts: 1250 - 17/03/2017 18:44:20 1967914 Link
Thankfully there was a club hurling final today as football is now unwatchable, a terrible performance of officiating on top of a poor game. A fella lashes out after being pulled & dragged & while he connected the fall to the ground was Ronaldoesque. Despite the strike rule it deserved no more than yellow. Where was the red card for the strike on Bradley. Shocking decision by the ref & linesman. Gaelic football now matching soccer for diving, simulation & making the most of a foul to fool the ref. The cynicism by Dr Crokes was sickening, some forwards got away with 7 or 8 very cynical fouls without punishment, it made a mockery of the rules & the red card decision. . This was a true reflection of Gaelic football & where it is today, cynicism, puke football, poor officiating & so boring there was very few left in Croke Park at the end. moc.dna (Galway) - Posts: 1212 - 17/03/2017 18:47:29 1967916 Link
Great to see unanimous agreement from Ulster posters that Crokes style of play made the game a farce. Many on here have been saying this style of football is a disgrace for years but it wasn't until a Kerry team indulged in it that we got widespread agreement. Any ideas on what can be done to help the game? Soma (UK) - Posts: 2630 - 17/03/2017 18:51:19 1967918 Link
Replying To TheUsername: "Congrats to Crokes a very contained, expierenced and disciplined performance. You would have to fell for SN in many ways they didn't deserve to be beaten, but were with their boots on, felt the bigger pitch wore them out, shot selection wasn't great and they were prone to rushes of blood to the head. Very spirited permormence and can be proud of the performance and achievement this year. Lovely gesture by Crokes with Amy O Connor, would melt the year." Disciplined??? Are you for real? Cynicism personified but will be ignored and hidden behind the mushy Gooch stuff. Ulsterman (Antrim) - Posts: 9702 - 17/03/2017 18:56:28 1967920 Link
Replying To TheHermit: "It's a terrible thing to be insulting Irish people on our patron saints day, but my God most of ye are such stereotypes. Ulster posters going off on one about Crokes when it was their opponents that finished with 14 men (courtesy of a punch in the balls), and most of Crokes scores were courtesy of frees. But no, it was Crokes that were the cynical side. Yer some shower..." Cute hoors is the expression I believe! bumpernut (Antrim) - Posts: 1852 - 17/03/2017 19:05:28 1967922 Link
Dreadful final. The red card destroyed the game. Crokes brought negative cynical nasty football to a whole new level today, foul after foul and not a black card to be seen and the sight of Crokes players begging the ref to send off the Derry midfielder was quite awful. Slaughtneil came to play football and did not get a fair deal today. Deegan left his black cards at home. salvador (Roscommon) - Posts: 439 - 17/03/2017 19:10:01 1967923 Link
Ulster lads giving out about cyncism and such like are worse than the boy who cried wolf. The red was a million percent deserved and Slaughtneil sitting back in their shell for the last 3/4 minutes is their issue and theirs alone KYTotalFootball (Kerry) - Posts: 280 - 17/03/2017 19:11:18 1967924 Link
Replying To TheHermit: "It's a terrible thing to be insulting Irish people on our patron saints day, but my God most of ye are such stereotypes. Ulster posters going off on one about Crokes when it was their opponents that finished with 14 men (courtesy of a punch in the balls), and most of Crokes scores were courtesy of frees. But no, it was Crokes that were the cynical side. Yer some shower..." I thought the refereeing was poor. In the first 10minutes of the match C. McKaigue was fouled by hands around the neck on at least 4 occasions with no yellow/black card for any of the incidents. What was the guy in the middle watching! and it continued. I do not blame Crokes well done to them as you do whatever you can get away with to win but a bad advertisement for football browncows (Meath) - Posts: 2342 - 17/03/2017 19:11:41 1967925 Link
The irony of some people complaining about Crokes' tactics. When northern teams were doing for years they were applauded for putting it up to Kerry. If it was your team winning an All Ireland you would be delighted. It's not up to Crokes to please everyone and solve all of the gaa's problems. iarmhi_an_mhaith (Westmeath) - Posts: 268 - 17/03/2017 19:14:20 1967926 Link
Replying To catchturnscore: "Well done to Crokes, but it's a sad reflection on the way the game is going that the biggest mistake in the last 5-6 minutes was the Gooch shooting from the late free. The ability of teams to constantly recycle possession and kill a game is something that will become a big issue in the coming years." Slaughtneil sat back and did not approach, what do you want Crokes to do just boot in a high ball to a horse of white shirts!!!! KYTotalFootball (Kerry) - Posts: 280 - 17/03/2017 19:15:24 1967927 Link
Replying To TheHermit: "It's a terrible thing to be insulting Irish people on our patron saints day, but my God most of ye are such stereotypes. Ulster posters going off on one about Crokes when it was their opponents that finished with 14 men (courtesy of a punch in the balls), and most of Crokes scores were courtesy of frees. But no, it was Crokes that were the cynical side. Yer some shower..." Stop talking about stereotypes and stick to the facts. Crokes were fouling runners from the outset as a rule. They were tugging jersies continuously, pulling runners around the neck, dragging, it was so ridiculously obvious and contrived throughout their team that it can't be defended. But go ahead sure, pretend it didn't ... Donegal_abroad (Donegal) - Posts: 1321 - 17/03/2017 19:16:44 1967928 Link
Dr Crokes tactical, non-stop fouling was brutal to watch. Refereeing was poor in my opinion, allowing foul after foul. Crokes centre-forward must have given away 7 or 8 fouls in the first half alone. icehonesty (Wexford) - Posts: 2550 - 17/03/2017 19:21:07 1967930 Link
Replying To Soma: "Great to see unanimous agreement from Ulster posters that Crokes style of play made the game a farce. Many on here have been saying this style of football is a disgrace for years but it wasn't until a Kerry team indulged in it that we got widespread agreement. Any ideas on what can be done to help the game?" This 'style' of football. See this is where the interpretation of what words like 'cynical' and 'negative' play mean causes confusion. And there's no reason for confusion. Ulster teams including my own play and have played a certain style which includes a lot of hand passing and getting bodied back. I have zero issue with Crokes doing that, absolutely zero. It's legal and perfectly within the rules of the game. What everyone here is surely complaining about is incessant and whole-team fouling as an actual tactic, jersey tugging, holding men up illegally... That's negative, that's cynical. Let's seperate fouling from defensive football. Bunching both ideas together is what you're doing and it doesn't wash. Ulster teams, generally speaking, have been defensively orientated down the years but not cynical in terms of continuous fouling. So don't try and push what happened today on Ulster teams in the past. What happened today is not unique, but it didn't originate in Ulster, in fact it was quite like a few Kerry senior team performances of note in recent years. Crokes won the game and good luck to them. They won't care tonight but the referee let them away with a huge amount of this stuff today. Donegal_abroad (Donegal) - Posts: 1321 - 17/03/2017 19:27:08 1967931 Link
Replying To salvador: "Dreadful final. The red card destroyed the game. Crokes brought negative cynical nasty football to a whole new level today, foul after foul and not a black card to be seen and the sight of Crokes players begging the ref to send off the Derry midfielder was quite awful. Slaughtneil came to play football and did not get a fair deal today. Deegan left his black cards at home." Do you not know that black cards DON'T apply to Kerry and Dublin sides......please keep up! Ulsterman (Antrim) - Posts: 9702 - 17/03/2017 19:32:53 1967934 Link
Shite game, could have been a very good second half but for the poor decision of the Slaughtneil no 9. Crokes deserved to win but if it stayed 15 v 15 it could have been very different. Both teams had have some lovely attacking players yet both brought a very defensive approach to the game and for Crokes it paif off but Slaughtneill are left wondering if they had more balls they could have been champions. At the end of the day congrats to The Crokes and especially to the Gooch (sorry for being mushy mushy Ulsterman) woops (Kerry) - Posts: 2073 - 17/03/2017 19:34:09 1967935 Link
Replying To KYTotalFootball: "Ulster lads giving out about cyncism and such like are worse than the boy who cried wolf. The red was a million percent deserved and Slaughtneil sitting back in their shell for the last 3/4 minutes is their issue and theirs alone" Ya that's what you have to laugh at, these fellas saying it's a disgrace Crokes retaining posession for the last few minutes instead of kicking in a 50/50 ball to a pack of opposition defenders!!! WHERE WERE THE OPPOSITION???!!! If Slaughtneil won doing the same, these posters would be going ape crap on here. A joke, but let them b#itch Crokes have finally had there day. Gooch your some man! TheHermit (Kerry) - Posts: 6354 - 17/03/2017 19:34:37 1967936 Link
Replying To Ulsterman: "Do you not know that black cards DON'T apply to Kerry and Dublin sides......please keep up!" Why bring Dublin into it UM? jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20600 - 17/03/2017 19:34:45 1967937 Link