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Replying To waynoI: "As I pointed out earlier, amazing performance tonight from the Dubs.
Mayo will get castigated and rightly so for their inept showing, But credit to Dublin especially midfield and the defence, I don't care if its march or September, to keep Mayo to 0-07 over 70 mins is a serious job.
When I saw the team especially the forwards I gave us no chance, No Cian O'Sullivan, Jack McCaffrey, James McCarthy, Paul Flynn from the start, Paddy Andrews from the start, Kev Mc FTS, Diarmuid Connolly and Bernard Brogan I just thought Mayo who where only missing The O'Shea brothers would have just had too much, especially when you think of how much we struggled in Donegal last week and against Tyrone.
But must admit, Darren Daly...when you have a guy with his quality almost always not getting a sniff of a game with the likes of Small, Lowndes, Jack Mc, Jamesy and Cian ahead of him, it just shows the strength in depth we have.
Eric Lowndes scored 2 amazing points, his second into the hill was beautiful.
The ferocity in the tackle was unreal, We didn't give them Mayo boys a sniff all night.
How good a footballer is Brian Fenton by the way ?
Interesting to note that as soon as Flynner came on Cluxton hit his next two Kick outs long to him, The first he lost and second he won around midfield, Looks like he could be an option there. I'm not Michael Daraghs biggest fan, I think he looks awkward but he too was immense tonight, probably my man of the match, or at least in with a shout with Fitzy and Lowndes.
The most fun ive had at a league game in Croker, Atmosphere was very good..
Dying for Tralee now, the next 2 weeks really cant come quick enough, Going into that game looking to equal Kerrys record ?? It had to be against them didn't it, Lets see what happens down there but its set up beautifully.
Hope the Mayo fans who travelled got home safely.
Up The Dubs" Had a good chat with a few Dublin fans last night Wayno....they couldn't believe how bad Mayo were. There was a sizeable Mayo support in Croke park last night and to put in that sort of performance was a disgrace. Second to EVERY ball. No fight heart or determination. I don't mind getting beat if we show them values but nothing was left on the field. Dublin are so far ahead of us it's depressing at this stage.
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I'm not sure whether it was a case that Dublin were so good or Mayo so bad or probably a bit of both.
That was a very strong Mayo team named and they really left a lot to be desired in their general all round play. Other than Cillian O'Connor up front, Mayo didn't offer much at all in attacking play. Their first score from play came after nearly 40 minutes.
I know we can't read too much into games in March but from a Mayo perspective you'd want to see some other options tested, give some grounds for optimism. Loftus and the younger O'Shea came in very late. Like others have said, I don't get the point in giving the likes of Andy Moran another run at this stage of the year.
Fenton and Mick McMcauley were terrific for Dublin, that's arguably the best game I've seen McCauley have in a while. Eoghan O'Gara did have another stinker, the game could have been over by half time had he taken his chances. It wasn't until the second half that the Dublin forwards started taking some more shots. One tactic I see Dublin adopting is this fantastic interplay of hand passes with players running off the shoulder, they carved Mayo open a few times with keeping the ball patiently and waiting for any one of 3 or 4 players bursting through the middle.
As a neutral I would love to be going to Tralee in 2 weeks, for a league game it will be a cracker.
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Mayo do t know how to break down a team. In the 29 minute Mayo were attackimh and Dublin had every man behind the ball bar Dean Rock and then won the ball back and broke at ps e Tyrone style. We were slow, ponderous and clueless going forward. St half time game was over so it was very disslinuting that Rochford didn't introduce the kind of Loftus earlier...and Irwin ?
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Cillian O Connor fails to score from play again and his free taking poor as well. Just to cap things off his marker heads up the field and kicks 2 good points. I really dont understand what people see in him. The best of a very poor set of Mayo forwards but wouldn't make the Dublin or Kerry starting teams.
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Replying To keithlemon: "I'm not sure whether it was a case that Dublin were so good or Mayo so bad or probably a bit of both.
That was a very strong Mayo team named and they really left a lot to be desired in their general all round play. Other than Cillian O'Connor up front, Mayo didn't offer much at all in attacking play. Their first score from play came after nearly 40 minutes.
I know we can't read too much into games in March but from a Mayo perspective you'd want to see some other options tested, give some grounds for optimism. Loftus and the younger O'Shea came in very late. Like others have said, I don't get the point in giving the likes of Andy Moran another run at this stage of the year.
Fenton and Mick McMcauley were terrific for Dublin, that's arguably the best game I've seen McCauley have in a while. Eoghan O'Gara did have another stinker, the game could have been over by half time had he taken his chances. It wasn't until the second half that the Dublin forwards started taking some more shots. One tactic I see Dublin adopting is this fantastic interplay of hand passes with players running off the shoulder, they carved Mayo open a few times with keeping the ball patiently and waiting for any one of 3 or 4 players bursting through the middle.
As a neutral I would love to be going to Tralee in 2 weeks, for a league game it will be a cracker." Agree on Tralee, will be an incredible atmosphere and occasion. Cant wait to travel down.
waynoI (Dublin) - Posts: 13650 - 05/03/2017 11:44:55
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Replying To yew_tree: "Had a good chat with a few Dublin fans last night Wayno....they couldn't believe how bad Mayo were. There was a sizeable Mayo support in Croke park last night and to put in that sort of performance was a disgrace. Second to EVERY ball. No fight heart or determination. I don't mind getting beat if we show them values but nothing was left on the field. Dublin are so far ahead of us it's depressing at this stage." I have to say I was shocked aswell, I expected so much more but I still think Dublin where immense defensively especially in the first half, boys where just throwing themselves infront of everything, was just so good to see the passion and the hunger. I don't agree that we are so far ahead of you though, Last night was just one of those nights, Mayo didn't have the appetite, you could see that in the first few minutes and Dublin could smell blood and went for it.
waynoI (Dublin) - Posts: 13650 - 05/03/2017 11:50:32
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Replying To HEREBENJI: "Cillian O Connor fails to score from play again and his free taking poor as well. Just to cap things off his marker heads up the field and kicks 2 good points. I really dont understand what people see in him. The best of a very poor set of Mayo forwards but wouldn't make the Dublin or Kerry starting teams." Not his best night but he really gets a raw deal. People ignore when he has a good game and then focus when he doesn't score from play. Was excellent in the drawn All ireland final scoring 2 from play and creating a lot more. But people seem to have forgotten that already. He lacks killer pace but he could do with a couple of others stepping up to ease the burden.
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Replying To TheFlaker: "Not his best night but he really gets a raw deal. People ignore when he has a good game and then focus when he doesn't score from play. Was excellent in the drawn All ireland final scoring 2 from play and creating a lot more. But people seem to have forgotten that already. He lacks killer pace but he could do with a couple of others stepping up to ease the burden." Same for any great player, if he scored non-stop last night people would complain Mayo are a one man team, has an off day suddenly he's over rated.
Iamlegion666 (Monaghan) - Posts: 285 - 05/03/2017 13:51:07
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Replying To Iamlegion666: "Same for any great player, if he scored non-stop last night people would complain Mayo are a one man team, has an off day suddenly he's over rated." He really gets a raw deal. The build up to the final last year on here they said he was just a free taker, scores 2 from play and does an amount of work and it is ignored. Funny I have had to defend Michael Murphy on here as well a few times. Can't beat the armchair donkeys!
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Replying To TheFlaker: "He really gets a raw deal. The build up to the final last year on here they said he was just a free taker, scores 2 from play and does an amount of work and it is ignored. Funny I have had to defend Michael Murphy on here as well a few times. Can't beat the armchair donkeys!" He scored 2 points from play in a game?. Fair enough he must be a great player so.
HEREBENJI (Donegal) - Posts: 422 - 05/03/2017 15:06:24
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Replying To HEREBENJI: "Cillian O Connor fails to score from play again and his free taking poor as well. Just to cap things off his marker heads up the field and kicks 2 good points. I really dont understand what people see in him. The best of a very poor set of Mayo forwards but wouldn't make the Dublin or Kerry starting teams." O'Connor was fairly accurate with the elbow on McMahon and I'm sure if it had been the other way around this forum would be apoplectic about it.
Keegan didn't have the distraction of marking Connolly and was very quiet. Mayo were leaderless last night. Only for Clarke and some wayward shooting by O'Gara it could have been so much worse for them. Where is O'Shea this weather? Does he not like playing when it's cold? Poor diddums.
While some people might comfort themselves with the fact it's only a league match in March Mayo still haven't found any scoring forwards and still haven't found a way of beating Dublin
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Replying To Long.Dub.Glic: "O'Connor was fairly accurate with the elbow on McMahon and I'm sure if it had been the other way around this forum would be apoplectic about it.
Keegan didn't have the distraction of marking Connolly and was very quiet. Mayo were leaderless last night. Only for Clarke and some wayward shooting by O'Gara it could have been so much worse for them. Where is O'Shea this weather? Does he not like playing when it's cold? Poor diddums.
While some people might comfort themselves with the fact it's only a league match in March Mayo still haven't found any scoring forwards and still haven't found a way of beating Dublin" And a Dublin team who started the game without Jonny Cooper, James McCarthy, Cian O'Sullivan, Jack McCaffrey, Paul Flynn, Diarmuid Connolly, Paddy Andrews, Kevin McManamon, Con O'Callaghan, Bernard Brogan, Paul Mannion, Cormac Costello and Denis Bastick.
It wasn't the fact Mayo lost, it was the manner of it. You knew in the first few minutes that Mayo just didn't fancy it.
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Replying To Long.Dub.Glic: "O'Connor was fairly accurate with the elbow on McMahon and I'm sure if it had been the other way around this forum would be apoplectic about it.
Keegan didn't have the distraction of marking Connolly and was very quiet. Mayo were leaderless last night. Only for Clarke and some wayward shooting by O'Gara it could have been so much worse for them. Where is O'Shea this weather? Does he not like playing when it's cold? Poor diddums.
While some people might comfort themselves with the fact it's only a league match in March Mayo still haven't found any scoring forwards and still haven't found a way of beating Dublin" Well said re the elbow incident.....
Amazing that there is so little talk about it - if it were the other way around some people would be crying to the newpapers about the incident and this forum would be in meltdown....
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Replying To Long.Dub.Glic: "O'Connor was fairly accurate with the elbow on McMahon and I'm sure if it had been the other way around this forum would be apoplectic about it.
Keegan didn't have the distraction of marking Connolly and was very quiet. Mayo were leaderless last night. Only for Clarke and some wayward shooting by O'Gara it could have been so much worse for them. Where is O'Shea this weather? Does he not like playing when it's cold? Poor diddums.
While some people might comfort themselves with the fact it's only a league match in March Mayo still haven't found any scoring forwards and still haven't found a way of beating Dublin" On the O Gara subject how is he anywhere near that Dublin panel surely with the quality forwards they have he shouldn't be now I know he tries hard and is an big target but i think he's just not good enough a very average player
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Replying To runnerin: "On the O Gara subject how is he anywhere near that Dublin panel surely with the quality forwards they have he shouldn't be now I know he tries hard and is an big target but i think he's just not good enough a very average player" Being totally honest - many Dubs think the same.
We have young Con coming along who has the height, strength but more importantly the SKILL to fill that position very shortly imo.....
Fionn (Dublin) - Posts: 3743 - 05/03/2017 16:54:10
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Replying To HEREBENJI: "He scored 2 points from play in a game?. Fair enough he must be a great player so." Well done on that response there lad. I mentioned the biggest day of the year last year. Or will I go back to the Tyrone game last year, he was superb and scored 3 points from play. 2015 semi replay against Dublin he scored 1-1 from play. 2014 semi v Kerry 2-4 from play over the 2 games. That's just a few of the big games off the top of my head. People who only see him as a freetaker are looking for him to fail, people like yourself. But you keep seeing what you want to see and let us know how many point from play a forward has to get to be considered useful.
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Replying To Fionn: "Being totally honest - many Dubs think the same.
We have young Con coming along who has the height, strength but more importantly the SKILL to fill that position very shortly imo....." Yeah exactly O Callaghan looks the real deal alright but is very young you'd still have Andrews McMenaman or Mannion ahead of O Gara surely and they're available now
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Replying To TheFlaker: "He really gets a raw deal. The build up to the final last year on here they said he was just a free taker, scores 2 from play and does an amount of work and it is ignored. Funny I have had to defend Michael Murphy on here as well a few times. Can't beat the armchair donkeys!" Do you really believe he gets a raw deal ? what do you think of his elbow into philys face and his pathetic diving last night ?
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Replying To TheFlaker: "Well done on that response there lad. I mentioned the biggest day of the year last year. Or will I go back to the Tyrone game last year, he was superb and scored 3 points from play. 2015 semi replay against Dublin he scored 1-1 from play. 2014 semi v Kerry 2-4 from play over the 2 games. That's just a few of the big games off the top of my head. People who only see him as a freetaker are looking for him to fail, people like yourself. But you keep seeing what you want to see and let us know how many point from play a forward has to get to be considered useful." He's a good forward whose very accurate from frees, but he lacks a yard to be a great but very good all the same. His best game for Mayo was against Tyrone last year in the championship he was excellent that day. The reason Mayo have been so good for so long is cause of their defence mainly Higgins Boyle Vaughan and Keegan but worrying last night that great defence looked like it's running on empty after so many years on the road.
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Replying To superbluedub: "Do you really believe he gets a raw deal ? what do you think of his elbow into philys face and his pathetic diving last night ?" He has form form for this kind thing, remember in the final he was holding onto a Small on the ground by the shirt, then tried to make out Small punched him while freeing himself.
TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4446 - 05/03/2017 17:40:24
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