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Not sure that this is a fair analogy - GAA counties are more like UEFA nations, where the merger of weaker entities is hard to envision. Conversely, AFL clubs are at least semi- if not fully- professional, and where restructurings can be expected similar to any business sector. omahant (USA) - Posts: 2621 - 26/02/2017 18:36:46 1961140 Link 1 |
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Once the gaa get thier cut then of course. We have lost sight of what the gaa was suppose to be. Instead of focusing on the community aspect of things the suits just want to keep increasing the bottom line. The gaa makes enough money without going down this route of elitism. daytona11 (Kildare) - Posts: 4012 - 26/02/2017 18:50:17 1961155 Link 0 |
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Oh! there will be for the 'Super 8' because in the new scheme of things, they will hold all the aces and demand their share of the cash they are generating or else - - -
neverright (Roscommon) - Posts: 1648 - 26/02/2017 19:44:57 1961210 Link 0 |
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There is a pay for play already it's called Sky and Eir you have to pay an annual subscription so you can watch various sports on their channels including GAA, at least TG4 and RTE is free except for the TV licence but you can still watch matches even if you don't pay. The super 8 will destroy club matches as well as the provincial and All Ireland championship, the super 8 will be the same teams every year and they will only get stronger and eventually subscription channels like Sky and Eir will want to show these games only and pay massive money to the GAA and RTE will have to do with the provincial champs which the stronger teams will win without breaking sweat. It will destroy our game, the question I would ask is where did Duffy come up with this idea? Was it an off the cuff remark by a TV representative like RTE, Sky or Eir if so there lies the future plan, when this current TV contracts are over in 2020 21 the super 8 will go to the largest bidder, then it will be the TV company who will tell you what time to play the games at like the do with soccer in England, so we could get 12 noon matches or Monday night matches yet, remember my words it's coming riverboys (Mayo) - Posts: 1389 - 26/02/2017 20:36:51 1961251 Link 1 |
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The Super 8 is no more elitist than the quarter finals or division 1 of the league are currently. Sport is the ultimate exercise in elitism in the first place so it's a bit stupid to be criticizing this idea for being elitist. The provincial championships need to be destroyed they are holding back real progress. uibhfhaili1986 (Offaly) - Posts: 1296 - 26/02/2017 20:56:25 1961274 Link 0 |
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Before a vote was taken it was said that, the likes of Yorkshire, Lancashire, Warwickshire, Gloucestershire, North America, Asia, Australasia, North America, Britain, Canada, Europe, and New York are likely to be deciding the fate of the competitions that they do not take part in. supersub15 (Carlow) - Posts: 2909 - 26/02/2017 21:22:55 1961297 Link 0 |
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uibhfhaili1986, Just because the All Ireland is being played earlier doesnt mean that the championship is going to be shorter, they're obviously going to have to start it earlier which is when the first rounds of the club championships start. So dont give me that they're freeing up time for club game because they're not. Joe_Bloggs (Tipperary) - Posts: 186 - 27/02/2017 10:06:53 1961453 Link 0 |
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All in the GAA had only a €2m surplus in 2015 off revenues of €90m. Where do they find the extra to pay 8 squads of intercounty players. What about hurling? Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts: 4241 - 27/02/2017 10:21:21 1961465 Link 0 |
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Every time the GAA makes a decision that is going to be a positive financially, then people presume that its another push towards professionalism. In reality, unless there was an all out strike by the players, then the GAA will never feel the need to reward players. I think the GAA are looking at what is a failing product, and trying to provide a bit of life to the championship. This is the first step towards a two tier system. The GAA know that in order for the big crowds to return to games in the future, then the top teams need to be playing each other regularly. What we have now is a system that sees the top sides playing each other once, from now until April, and then not meeting again until August. Look at the level Dublin are at, and yet they are in a provincial championship that contains no other Division 1 sides. PK57 (Louth) - Posts: 1656 - 27/02/2017 10:32:47 1961473 Link 0 |
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The biggest problem with the Championship is the lob-sided nature of the Provincial Championships. This proposal doesn't tackle this just deflects while aiming to bring in more money and tying us more closely to Sky so we'll all have to pay to see games in the future. Will Duffy admit how many 'Super8' games Sky will get?
opa01 (Cavan) - Posts: 503 - 27/02/2017 10:54:13 1961487 Link 0 |
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How is the quarter final structure being changed making the game elitist?It's no more difficult now to get to the quarter finals than it was in the past. i suspect the provincials will be run off quicker an this whole idea is about killing of the provincials and have a proper all Ireland championship once and for all. uibhfhaili1986 (Offaly) - Posts: 1296 - 27/02/2017 11:22:26 1961507 Link 0 |
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In the same way that Irish counties vote on decisions that affect international units regularly at Congress. Either we're one GAA or we're not.
Gleebo (Mayo) - Posts: 2208 - 27/02/2017 12:10:10 1961529 Link 0 |
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Ill trade you a pretty decent minor and/or under 21 hurling team for a solid football GK and full back line? I hear ye traded your entire senior hurling and football teams for an up-and-coming football #3 back in 2020....
The_DOC (Galway) - Posts: 709 - 27/02/2017 12:14:54 1961532 Link 0 |
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As a huge GAA fan both for my club and county I have to state that I am seriously disappointed with the " Super 8" development. Of course I want to see my county in there and mixing it with the best and yes we will hear the arguments about it being a revenue generator for the GAA which will help grass roots but we are now looking at the first step towards an elitist competition for the top counties. So how will it help the so called weaker counties and do anything remotely for the development within them. Really cannot understand how we will have effectively a knock out competition leading into a " champions league" style competition. For example last night Pat Spillane was bordering on being orgasmic about it but then put out how badly treated clubs that cannot utilise U-17s for their adult team. Is player welfare something that only applies to be debated in the winter months when there is nothing else to be spoke about or do the GAA really care about it? For example we had a situation over the last few weeks where the club semi-finals and finals were being played along with the league and then the sigerson and fitzgibbon cup, so tell me where the planning is. Frankly I believe that all the GAA really want is to have the 8 counties playing in front of massive crowds and have total disregard for everything else. I thought the GPA and CPA would be far more vocal on this and stand up for what they were originally set up for. I love the league and the fact that there is matches every other week and this is the template that should have been used for changing the structure of the all-ireland whereby all counties are playing games and not where we will see the very best in the Summer with all other counties twiddling their thumbs. A couple of other questions, where will Dublin play their home games? How many games could a team lose and win the all-ireland? Will this strengthen the hand over other sports like rugby and soccer which will effectively have a free run at things for about 5 months of the year. Adamski (Dublin) - Posts: 339 - 27/02/2017 12:56:33 1961563 Link 0 |
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Lets just say Tipp manage to get to the "super 8" when it comes in and play Dublin in the first match. Tipp catch Dublin and beat them. I'd wager that Dublin will still get to a semi final and Tipp wont. Its taking the championship out of the championship as well as everything else.
Joe_Bloggs (Tipperary) - Posts: 186 - 27/02/2017 13:16:28 1961574 Link 0 |
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Bout time the al ireland was a open draw no more back doors when you lose ur out this super 8 is nothing more than a money maker for croke park and the suits inside it !!! Let the 4 provinces play for there titles but not as part of the all ireland
hoopman (Tyrone) - Posts: 105 - 27/02/2017 13:43:14 1961594 Link 0 |
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Bout time the al ireland was a open draw no more back doors when you lose ur out this super 8 is nothing more than a money maker for croke park and the suits inside it !!! Let the 4 provinces play for there titles but not as part of the all ireland
hoopman (Tyrone) - Posts: 105 - 27/02/2017 13:45:11 1961596 Link 0 |
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You do know that the 2 representative bodies representing all the players voted overwhelmingly against this proposal? If its better for them why would they do that, are they all just fools whinging for the sake of it? That seems to be a point you are overlooking in all your posts on this subject matter. the very people this directly affects do not want it, plain and simply. Nothing to do with Hoganstand online community, its the young men who do the hard yards and make all the sacrifices. They are being ignored, how can you not see it? tearintom (Wexford) - Posts: 1353 - 27/02/2017 14:36:42 1961626 Link 0 |
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no wonder the dubs like it,unlikely they will lose 2 games. ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 27/02/2017 14:50:41 1961633 Link 0 |
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This is what the GAA is all about, last Monday and Tuesday on local radio here in Mayo we were told that Mayo were backing Duffy's proposal, on Tuesday night at a Co Board meeting delegates complained about the proposal, the top table assumed that the delegates were in favour because a few weeks ago there was a positive response to Duffy's speech, there wasn't even a vote held before the co board made a press statement last Monday stating they were backing the plan. As we have said for years the co board in nearly county is so far distanced from the people on the ground they have lost touch with reality riverboys (Mayo) - Posts: 1389 - 27/02/2017 19:25:07 1961784 Link 1 |