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What do people want? Its a good question and fair enough to ask given all the noise and complaining. RoyalBadger (Meath) - Posts: 571 - 03/03/2017 09:06:28 1963055 Link 0 |
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A lot of sports change the format of their competitions regularly. Soccer will be changing the World Cup to 48 teams. UEFA club tournaments have changed multiple times since the champions league era began and is set to change again soon. European rugby changed a few years ago, Pro 12 is looking to expand into North America and Europe. Super rugby constantly expands. Six nations change their points system this season, there are calls for promotion and relegation in the six nations given the struggles of Italy and emergence of Georgia. The rugby world is currently in a long going discussion on how to organise their playing calendar across the entire professional game. The difference between the GAA and other sports isn't that there aren't calls for change elsewhere it's just that change can actually get delivered in other sports where they have boards and panels in place with the representatives of the affected stakeholders and who have the authority to implement changes. The GAA only has congress which is a minefield. It's a joke actually. Tipperary voted for all the championship changes as one motion, they didn't know that there were 3 separate motions involved in the reform. Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts: 4235 - 03/03/2017 12:41:54 1963145 Link 0 |
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The 10 day rule is already in place it's just that no one pays any heed to it. What do people want. 1. Proper set of fixtures 2. Competitive matches How do you get it? 1. All players are designated as club players 2. Club players are realeased to play for their county 10 days before a county match 3. County football played in sets of 3 games and if you don't play for the county on a weekend you are released to the club (rugby seem to manage this) 4. All clubs guaranteed 3 championship matches and all counties guaranteed the same. 5. Max no of teams anyone can train with is 1. 6. Split the season properly as follows: a. Jan = preseason, Feb = colleges/intercounty league/club leagues, Mar = intercounty league/ club leagues, April = club Championship/county league, May = intercounty provincial championship/county league, June = club championship, July = intercounty championship/club league, august = club championship, September = intercounty championship, provincial club championship, October = all Ireland club/interpros/club leagues, November = overtime allowance for replays during season, December = complete off season for everyone Taking the above into account: Intercounty league has 8 weekends Intercounty provincial championship has 5 weekends intercounty all Ireland has 8 weekends County Club championship has 9 weekends Provincial club championship has 5 weekends All Ireland club has 4 weekends Total weekends in use = 39 Total weekend available for replays = 4 Max no games per player = 32 Max training weekends = 4 Total free off-season weekends = 5 All very simple if you seed championships based on league performance You can fit in a B inter county competition with reentry to the super 8's Big thing is to ensure intercounty players are released to clubs or penalise county team (remove players grants and county board funding)"]Not bad if you only have to make fixtures for 1 code. When does Keith Higgins do his hurling there? Are the Slaughtneil lads to be told they have to choose to be either a hurler or footballer?"]Typical anti change attitude. I say no because I can think of one man who might get put out. Let's continue to mess around club players so 4 lads in the country can be dual county players. tirawleybaron (Mayo) - Posts: 1115 - 03/03/2017 23:07:33 1963361 Link 0 |
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What I would like to see is the league played during Jan and Feb, split divisions into 2 groups of 4, winners of each play in the league final! Would reduce the games from currently min of 7 max 8 to min 3 max 4! Would like to see March and April as province and super 8 qualifiers! May, June and July should be club games only! August and September run the super 8 and all ireland final! as_ky (Kerry) - Posts: 535 - 04/03/2017 16:27:49 1963531 Link 0 |
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So you think that competition (and club fixtures) will be improved by the giving the elite top teams 8 more matches in the championship- and anybody who disagrees is whinging. It will generate more money for the GAA coffers resulting in more money for the elite teams.
browncows (Meath) - Posts: 2342 - 04/03/2017 17:34:27 1963550 Link 0 |
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It's 12 more matches. 2 groups with 3 rounds of 2 matches in each group.
Jack_Sparrow (Westmeath) - Posts: 1018 - 04/03/2017 18:41:14 1963562 Link 0 |
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12 matches in this version of the last 8. In the current version there are 4 matches, i.e. 4 quarter finals. 12-4 = 8 uibhfhaili1986 (Offaly) - Posts: 1296 - 04/03/2017 18:46:25 1963565 Link 0 |
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Someone mentioned in another post that the Cavan Inttermeditare Football used it - 14 teams open draw, 4 matches, top 8 open draw QFs - - I do feel pot seeding is required however- To your variety - it is good too - but I prefer NFL divisions for seeds, as SF losers in Uls is stronger than Lein for example. You could have - Uls champ mapping its 3 opponents to related NFL divs. With 8 matches and 4 pots - Div 1 teams could play 3-3-2-0 (2 v div 3 and 0 v div 4, to handicap and give weak teams chance of making top 16 of 32 for Sam KO. omahant (USA) - Posts: 2611 - 04/03/2017 18:46:34 1963566 Link 0 |
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Ok minus the 4 that are already there . My mistake
Jack_Sparrow (Westmeath) - Posts: 1018 - 04/03/2017 18:50:05 1963567 Link 0 |
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The 16 teams that don't make it out of round 3 in the qualifiers to be put into a secondary competition of straight knockout open draw. The final to be played before a All Ireland football semi final. The winner of this secondary competition would be guaranteed a place in the Super 8s the following year to give the weaker counties a shot at the "Big Time". The winner of the secondary competition would still go into the provincial championships the following year but if defeated would go straight into the Super 8s and bypass the qualifiers. It would give weaker counties an opportunity of making the Super 8s and would give them competitive games each season at the business end of the summer. I feel the prize on offer is enough to build the profile of the games of the secondary competiton and hopefully bring strong attendances in venues around the country. lukewalsh96 (Cork) - Posts: 252 - 07/03/2017 18:26:23 1965177 Link 0 |
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Agree with your first point about the 16 team secondary competition, but no way you could then give the winner an automatic spot in the following year's super 8. Very unfair on other teams trying to make it through the front door (mostly teams 9 to 16), and where is the motivation for that county in the following years championship? why would they be interested in focusing on a first round game when they know they are in the super 8's either way. That could really skew a championship
himachechy (Donegal) - Posts: 293 - 08/03/2017 16:03:33 1965489 Link 0 |
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The more schemes put forward the more I'm thinking the Jim McGuinness proposal was the best lillyboy (Kildare) - Posts: 429 - 08/03/2017 19:15:12 1965536 Link 0 |
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The Super 8 should be expanded to a Top 16. The winners of a second championship should be guaranteed a Top 16 place in the following year. Participation in the second championship should be optional. I'd imagine after a few years all teams missing out on the Top 16 will enter the second championship when they see previous second championship winners being rewarded with a Top 16 place. legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 7868 - 11/03/2017 17:11:44 1966188 Link 0 |