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Replying To clondalkindub: "You hadn't the best players that's why Mcguiness ruined the game he knew he couldn't win playing 15 on 15. Yes you'd some great players (Murphy McFadden Lacey) but come on the whole country knows you'd never of won Sam if yous didn't yous the tactics you's did." We may yet win it again using the same or similar tactics.
Donegalman (None) - Posts: 3830 - 08/04/2017 01:58:34
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Clueless from a certain poster .
Easy to spot the guys who are not involved in modern day football .
Galway , Kerry , Dublin , Mayo , Donegal club sides all play the same way now .
2015 All- Ireland final - i nearly got sick watching it . 2011 was nearly worse . What was the score in the 2011 final after 20 mins?
Someone needs to create their own opinion .
TheRightStuff (Donegal) - Posts: 1688 - 08/04/2017 03:17:37
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Replying To clondalkindub: "Good man Muck, like the talent you's have it would make no sense for them to play a negative style , Mcguiness did what he had to do cause he knew he hadn't the best players , Donegal 21's have the best players apart from Kerry so I'm delighted to hear that." Donegal 21's have the best players apart from Kerry.
clondalkindub (Dublin) - Posts:8430 - 06/04/2017 21:49:07
While I would agree with you that the Donegal & Kerry U21's are the best in Ireland this year nobody should discount Dublin yet.
The advantages they have are not to be dismissed lightly, huge pick, ladles of cash, home advantage & that cuteness that comes from surviving on the hard city streets. Donegal & Kerry lads can't compete with that so while they may be more naturally talented, like their seniors, the factors outlined above do even things up & even tilt them a bit in Dublin's advantage.
I'm around long enough at this stage to know that talent & good looks are not enough to get you by, so it's a vote for the Dublin U21's from me.
MuckrossHead (Donegal) - Posts: 5028 - 08/04/2017 09:32:23
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Replying To MuckrossHead: "Donegal 21's have the best players apart from Kerry.
clondalkindub (Dublin) - Posts:8430 - 06/04/2017 21:49:07
While I would agree with you that the Donegal & Kerry U21's are the best in Ireland this year nobody should discount Dublin yet.
The advantages they have are not to be dismissed lightly, huge pick, ladles of cash, home advantage & that cuteness that comes from surviving on the hard city streets. Donegal & Kerry lads can't compete with that so while they may be more naturally talented, like their seniors, the factors outlined above do even things up & even tilt them a bit in Dublin's advantage.
I'm around long enough at this stage to know that talent & good looks are not enough to get you by, so it's a vote for the Dublin U21's from me." Not a great vintage for us mate, apart form Con and young Even in goal, who will go onto to the senior team i think most of the other lads will struggle, maybe a left fielder here and there. But we have had better groups at this level. With Con we always have a chance but personally i think it will be a semi for us at the most this year.
TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4445 - 08/04/2017 10:10:31
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Replying To TheUsername: " Replying To MuckrossHead: "Donegal 21's have the best players apart from Kerry.
clondalkindub (Dublin) - Posts:8430 - 06/04/2017 21:49:07
While I would agree with you that the Donegal & Kerry U21's are the best in Ireland this year nobody should discount Dublin yet.
The advantages they have are not to be dismissed lightly, huge pick, ladles of cash, home advantage & that cuteness that comes from surviving on the hard city streets. Donegal & Kerry lads can't compete with that so while they may be more naturally talented, like their seniors, the factors outlined above do even things up & even tilt them a bit in Dublin's advantage.
I'm around long enough at this stage to know that talent & good looks are not enough to get you by, so it's a vote for the Dublin U21's from me." Not a great vintage for us mate, apart form Con and young Even in goal, who will go onto to the senior team i think most of the other lads will struggle, maybe a left fielder here and there. But we have had better groups at this level. With Con we always have a chance but personally i think it will be a semi for us at the most this year."
Donegalman (None) - Posts: 3830 - 08/04/2017 11:54:05
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Replying To Donegalman: " Replying To TheUsername: "[quote=MuckrossHead: "Donegal 21's have the best players apart from Kerry.
clondalkindub (Dublin) - Posts:8430 - 06/04/2017 21:49:07
While I would agree with you that the Donegal & Kerry U21's are the best in Ireland this year nobody should discount Dublin yet.
The advantages they have are not to be dismissed lightly, huge pick, ladles of cash, home advantage & that cuteness that comes from surviving on the hard city streets. Donegal & Kerry lads can't compete with that so while they may be more naturally talented, like their seniors, the factors outlined above do even things up & even tilt them a bit in Dublin's advantage.
I'm around long enough at this stage to know that talent & good looks are not enough to get you by, so it's a vote for the Dublin U21's from me." Not a great vintage for us mate, apart form Con and young Even in goal, who will go onto to the senior team i think most of the other lads will struggle, maybe a left fielder here and there. But we have had better groups at this level. With Con we always have a chance but personally i think it will be a semi for us at the most this year."
Maybe the odds are reflective of the fact that this group narrowly missed out on the final last year to the eventual winners, Con has also built a huge reputation with him we will be competitive, i just dont think the group collectively has enough.
Just my opinion i know other Dubs on here think this group have a great chance. I just dont think this team collectively have the quality other counties do this year, we rely to much on Con and if you take him out, your almost there to beat this team, while their performances so far have been a little naive a bit sloppy for me despite last years experience.
TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4445 - 08/04/2017 12:03:50
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Replying To TheUsername: " Replying To MuckrossHead: "Donegal 21's have the best players apart from Kerry.
clondalkindub (Dublin) - Posts:8430 - 06/04/2017 21:49:07
While I would agree with you that the Donegal & Kerry U21's are the best in Ireland this year nobody should discount Dublin yet.
The advantages they have are not to be dismissed lightly, huge pick, ladles of cash, home advantage & that cuteness that comes from surviving on the hard city streets. Donegal & Kerry lads can't compete with that so while they may be more naturally talented, like their seniors, the factors outlined above do even things up & even tilt them a bit in Dublin's advantage.
I'm around long enough at this stage to know that talent & good looks are not enough to get you by, so it's a vote for the Dublin U21's from me." Not a great vintage for us mate, apart form Con and young Even in goal, who will go onto to the senior team i think most of the other lads will struggle, maybe a left fielder here and there. But we have had better groups at this level. With Con we always have a chance but personally i think it will be a semi for us at the most this year."
panamasam (Australia) - Posts: 2782 - 08/04/2017 14:31:15
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I predict a Kerry/Donegal with Kerry winning it out
patnback (Cork) - Posts: 28 - 08/04/2017 14:35:13
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Replying To TheUsername: " Replying To Donegalman: "[quote=TheUsername: "[quote=MuckrossHead: "Donegal 21's have the best players apart from Kerry.
clondalkindub (Dublin) - Posts:8430 - 06/04/2017 21:49:07
While I would agree with you that the Donegal & Kerry U21's are the best in Ireland this year nobody should discount Dublin yet.
The advantages they have are not to be dismissed lightly, huge pick, ladles of cash, home advantage & that cuteness that comes from surviving on the hard city streets. Donegal & Kerry lads can't compete with that so while they may be more naturally talented, like their seniors, the factors outlined above do even things up & even tilt them a bit in Dublin's advantage.
I'm around long enough at this stage to know that talent & good looks are not enough to get you by, so it's a vote for the Dublin U21's from me." Not a great vintage for us mate, apart form Con and young Even in goal, who will go onto to the senior team i think most of the other lads will struggle, maybe a left fielder here and there. But we have had better groups at this level. With Con we always have a chance but personally i think it will be a semi for us at the most this year."
Maybe the odds are reflective of the fact that this group narrowly missed out on the final last year to the eventual winners, Con has also built a huge reputation with him we will be competitive, i just dont think the group collectively has enough.
Just my opinion i know other Dubs on here think this group have a great chance. I just dont think this team collectively have the quality other counties do this year, we rely to much on Con and if you take him out, your almost there to beat this team, while their performances so far have been a little naive a bit sloppy for me despite last years experience."]Very hard to gauge Dublin I feel. I was at the Westmeath game and the result of anything was flattering to Westmeath if anything. In saying that they did not seem to know what they were doing. Westmeath came out with a defensive game plan which to me looked alien to them and as a result did now know how to implement. I did think the scoreline flattered Dublin a bit in the Leinster Final. Offaly gave away alot of very cheap scorelines especially in the second half when bad decision making resulted in the Dubs overturning the ball and punishing clinically. Offaly probably should have been closer at the half as well. As a result it is really hard to know exactly where Dublin are at. It was thought that Meath and especially Kildare would be the main challengers but both seriously blotted their copybooks early. I know Meath were missing a few players but given they won the Hastings Cup I still cannot fathom how Westmeath beat them. My feelings were that Leinster bar Dublin was incredibly weak. In fact looking at Kildare outside of Leinster at minor level last few years compounds the view that underage football in Leinster is not in a good way. This can change easily of course. I still feel that it will take a very good performance from whichever of the Ulster sides to overcome Dublin next week. But I also agree that Dublin are probably priced more on the name than what they have done visually on the pitch.
panamasam (Australia) - Posts: 2782 - 08/04/2017 14:48:01
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5 points each after 20 minutes. Derry giving Donegal all they want.
What is annoying though is that the live stream from TG4 isnt working. Looks like the site can't handle the traffic.
MuckrossHead (Donegal) - Posts: 5028 - 10/04/2017 20:21:46
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H/T Donegal 1-08 Derry 0-07
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Replying To MuckrossHead: "5 points each after 20 minutes. Derry giving Donegal all they want.
What is annoying though is that the live stream from TG4 isnt working. Looks like the site can't handle the traffic." Working fine for me, great coverage. Its hosted on youtube so it can't be the site letting it down!
benjyyy (Donegal) - Posts: 1422 - 10/04/2017 20:41:27
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Replying To MuckrossHead: "5 points each after 20 minutes. Derry giving Donegal all they want.
What is annoying though is that the live stream from TG4 isnt working. Looks like the site can't handle the traffic." Couldn't get onto TG4 site but TG4 you-tube channel working for me - missed first 20 minutes though
doiregael2 (Derry) - Posts: 337 - 10/04/2017 20:46:25
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Donegal looking very impressive here, could easily have had 3 more goals in last few minutes.
The Real 1944 (Carlow) - Posts: 1114 - 10/04/2017 21:17:02
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Donegal win by 3-17 to 0-13
Exact same final score as the semi final. Should be a great game against Dublin this coming weekend.
MuckrossHead (Donegal) - Posts: 5028 - 10/04/2017 21:24:34
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Delighted for the lads, maith sibh! The commitment they've given Donegal football is huge so it was great to see that pay off with an Ulster title. Hopefully they enjoy this and then the focus is on the Dubs on Saturday. A massive ask but I've huge faith in these lads.
On the game itself, I thought the goal just before half time was a real killer. Derry were battling away with us and playing some nice stuff, we were having problems in the back line I felt when they got at us and were a bit sloppy at times ourselves. But we are so pacey and lethal on the break. In the end it was brilliant control from Jamie Brennan to set up the goal and then the point straight after was insult to injury - Derry didn't deserve to be 4 points down at half time.
Once we had our noses in front I always felt our class would shine through and so it proved. Derry had to really push up and our counter attacking was lethal. I felt sorry for the young lad that got black carded for what seemed like an off the ball incident? Didn't catch it but it's a pity for something like that to happen. The red card was a definite black/second yellow so no question there for me.
We left a lot of points out there today as well going for goals and hit the post a few times. With the Dubs on Saturday I think we'll need to be a bit tighter in defence and put on a display more like against Cavan in terms of finishing than tonight. But that's nitpicking - a brilliant win and delighted for everyone involved!
JoeSoap (Donegal) - Posts: 1432 - 10/04/2017 21:33:27
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ah sure galway might as well stay at home
we haven't a hope according to most here
well do well to keep it kicked out lol
rhudson (Galway) - Posts: 1478 - 10/04/2017 21:36:29
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Looks like I was on to something when I said a few weeks ago that the Tir Chonaill men were great value at 12/1.
Good luck getting that now, that was a serious statement of intent and I don't get the impression that they will be fatigued or drained for the semi final on Saturday
That wasn't a bad Derry side yet at the same time Donegal could have easily scored 6 goals on the night and never looked like conceding from what I saw of the match
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Replying To JoeSoap: "Delighted for the lads, maith sibh! The commitment they've given Donegal football is huge so it was great to see that pay off with an Ulster title. Hopefully they enjoy this and then the focus is on the Dubs on Saturday. A massive ask but I've huge faith in these lads.
On the game itself, I thought the goal just before half time was a real killer. Derry were battling away with us and playing some nice stuff, we were having problems in the back line I felt when they got at us and were a bit sloppy at times ourselves. But we are so pacey and lethal on the break. In the end it was brilliant control from Jamie Brennan to set up the goal and then the point straight after was insult to injury - Derry didn't deserve to be 4 points down at half time.
Once we had our noses in front I always felt our class would shine through and so it proved. Derry had to really push up and our counter attacking was lethal. I felt sorry for the young lad that got black carded for what seemed like an off the ball incident? Didn't catch it but it's a pity for something like that to happen. The red card was a definite black/second yellow so no question there for me.
We left a lot of points out there today as well going for goals and hit the post a few times. With the Dubs on Saturday I think we'll need to be a bit tighter in defence and put on a display more like against Cavan in terms of finishing than tonight. But that's nitpicking - a brilliant win and delighted for everyone involved!" Why was Gillespie not playing?
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Donegal now 2ND favourites for the U21 All Ireland. What a difference 2 weeks makes! They were 12/1 behind Dublin and Galway before the semi final v Cavan
green and gold (Donegal) - Posts: 105 - 10/04/2017 23:38:11
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