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So instead of a 25 thousand seater stadium you want hurling walls ha ok. I think we've more than enough of the rest to be fair to all clubs. clondalkindub (Dublin) - Posts: 9926 - 19/01/2017 17:23:40 1947074 Link 1 |
Did Páraic Duffy actually say that? Plenty of clubs under huge financial strain in Dublin, just like everywhere else. I'd imagine that the rent of Croker is well covered for league matches. A Spawell stadium also caps our growth for home league match attendances to 25k. We've gotten more than that for league matches in the past and should be ambitious enough to try and grow league attendances across the country imo. Croker is also in a much more easily accessible location than the Spawell. The Spawell has little or no public transport links which means jumping in the car is the only option for the majority of people going to the games, that makes Saturday night matches much less attractive for a lot of people, particularly the 16-30 demographic many of whom do not drive and also want to head out in town on a Sat night. They are key as they become the next generation of parents bringing kids to clubs/matches and a demographic that tends to move away from sport. MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13718 - 19/01/2017 17:50:28 1947090 Link 3 |
Towers might be going well and have great facilities but that doesn't mean every club is. We should also be looking at growing the numbers of clubs in the city and county. MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13718 - 19/01/2017 17:52:19 1947092 Link 3 |
The lack of public transport links to the Spawell is a major drawback, especially for Saturday night League matches. Everyone will have to drive out to it. Any major project like this should be aiming to encourage people out of their cars not into them! MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13718 - 19/01/2017 18:23:11 1947105 Link 2 |
So instead of building s 25 seater staduim you want towers to get better facilities? your a good man Mes. clondalkindub (Dublin) - Posts: 9926 - 19/01/2017 18:28:00 1947107 Link 1 |
Jumping into the car is the only option for a lot of people in 31 other counties, for league and championship matches, I'm a Meath supporter living in Donegal imagine what I have to do to get to most matches and I still do it because I love doing it, mg attendance at matches has never been determined by how handy or otherwise it is to get to the venue. I guarantee you in a few years Lucan will have all the public transport you want, a damn site quicker than other parts of the country. You want the use of the GAA national stadium in an area with the best public transport over developing your own county ground!! You really want your cake and to eat it too, Dublin GAA will not grow short of supporters, it wasn't short in the dark days and won't be short in the future and the vast majority of league matches and indeed first round championship matches for Dublin will fit into a 25K capacity stadium as recent attendance trends show, anyway look that's my opinion many may agree and many disagree but I think this is an ideal project for Dublin if it can go ahead
Richieq (Meath) - Posts: 3734 - 19/01/2017 18:46:05 1947114 Link 1 |
That's the same BS you came out with before Clondalkin. I don't care that it's not on my doorstep. You know that. MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13718 - 19/01/2017 18:52:10 1947117 Link 1 |
I understand that jumping in the car is your only option. However this stadium is in Dublin and we should look to use that to our advantage. I don't see what's wrong with that. MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13718 - 19/01/2017 18:54:12 1947119 Link 2 |
John Costello previously & Liam Rushe this evening are on record in mentioning it as a base for a centre of excellence so hopefully that answers that question for you. Secondly its a 35 acre site, five playing fields is 10 acres, a 25,000 stadium is similar to Nowlan Park whose footprint is less than 10 acres so that's 25 acres out of 35 allowing for other development & parking. Interestingly my suggestion of Dublin using Abbotstown was mentioned by Liam Rushe this evening & he said they had difficulty getting slots there. That is disgraceful & an indictment on Croke Park, it's another development that will be a white elephant if it's not used by the immediate population base around it. Let's be honest Spawell is not in the bag yet as the investment fund managed by Davy's that bought it will want to turn a profit on their original investment, so in the meantime Abbotstown should be leased to Dublin. As for Parnell Park been too small, it's big enough for Dublin hurling league matches & the footballers have sold out Croke park on a few occasions on opening league night & broken 30,000 capacity on a good few occasions, so a new 25,000 stadium could be obsolete very quickly. I have been to both on multiple occasions. I understand that most people on here are big county team fans & only care about that aspect, but surely Dublin of all places with massive population growth & many disadvantaged areas needs investment in kids & games & help for clubs, not for stadiums.
moc.dna (Galway) - Posts: 1212 - 19/01/2017 20:02:47 1947140 Link 1 |
Why so many moaners about Dublin building a stadium? If Dublin want to build another stadium then leave them at it. It is no other Counties business. If you ask me they need a higher capacity ground. pkboher (Cork) - Posts: 49 - 19/01/2017 20:36:45 1947155 Link 2 |
Interestingly my suggestion of Dublin using Abbotstown was mentioned by Liam Rushe this evening & he said they had difficulty getting slots there. That is disgraceful & an indictment on Croke Park, it's another development that will be a white elephant if it's not used by the immediate population base around it. if_in_doubt (Kildare) - Posts: 3685 - 19/01/2017 21:10:51 1947172 Link 0 |
Wouldn't be an issue with schools as they would be using it mostly during school hours so it would be available. Third level colleges have better set ups than Dublin, Dublin use DCU a lot & again most colleges games at third level are during the day, so no clash. What are clubs ftom Meath & Kildare putting up travelling costs on their clubs & adding to traffic congestion heading for Abbotstown when Meath have a fantastic centre of excellence in Dungany Trim themselves with all the facilities right beside them ? the same with Kildare with the new €3.5 Million development open at Hawkfield. That's the big problem in the Gaa, I'm alright Jack attitude. The nonsense of Dublin building a centre of excellence costing millions when Abbotstown is already there, is obscene. All capital projects are for stadiums & centres of excellence whilst clubs around the country are literally dying & struggling to stay afloat. The clubs were the basis of the Gaa, nod they are being screwed by it, wait till pay for play comes in, we will see then where all the money is going to come from to keep all this going.
moc.dna (Galway) - Posts: 1212 - 19/01/2017 23:53:00 1947213 Link 0 |
No we don't we need to build more hurling walls and buy more footballs and helmets cause we haven't enough of them haha Ffs. Some lads don't like south Dublin for some weird reason they've even admitted it on here and the thought of the staduim over here and not on their doorstep doesn't sit well with them.
clondalkindub (Dublin) - Posts: 9926 - 20/01/2017 08:03:00 1947229 Link 1 |
No we don't we need to build more hurling walls and buy more footballs and helmets cause we haven't enough of them haha Ffs. Some lads don't like south Dublin for some weird reason they've even admitted it on here and the thought of the staduim over here and not on their doorstep doesn't sit well with them. MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13718 - 20/01/2017 10:18:09 1947264 Link 4 |
All seater ? Nonsense. waynoI (Dublin) - Posts: 13650 - 20/01/2017 10:47:47 1947277 Link 3 |
Cant put it better myself ,
Damothedub (Dublin) - Posts: 5193 - 20/01/2017 10:53:00 1947281 Link 2 |
Wouldn't be an issue with schools as they would be using it mostly during school hours so it would be available. Third level colleges have better set ups than Dublin, Dublin use DCU a lot & again most colleges games at third level are during the day, so no clash. What are clubs ftom Meath & Kildare putting up travelling costs on their clubs & adding to traffic congestion heading for Abbotstown when Meath have a fantastic centre of excellence in Dungany Trim themselves with all the facilities right beside them ? the same with Kildare with the new €3.5 Million development open at Hawkfield. That's the big problem in the Gaa, I'm alright Jack attitude. The nonsense of Dublin building a centre of excellence costing millions when Abbotstown is already there, is obscene. All capital projects are for stadiums & centres of excellence whilst clubs around the country are literally dying & struggling to stay afloat. The clubs were the basis of the Gaa, nod they are being screwed by it, wait till pay for play comes in, we will see then where all the money is going to come from to keep all this going. if_in_doubt (Kildare) - Posts: 3685 - 20/01/2017 11:09:23 1947286 Link 0 |
What Dublin club is struggling? Every club in Dublin I go out to has unbelievable facilities , every staduim in Ireland is a car park on match day Parnell Park being one of the worst and that can only hold 9 thousand , this is a staduim built just off the m50 what more could you ask for? So Wayne who has no interest in Dublin club football would rather they help out struggling clubs in Dublin than build a brand new stadium for Dublin wtf that makes loads of sense. I'm telling you when it's built and it's packed jammed on March days you'll all love it. And the money it makes we can buy hurleys and helmets and footballs and jerseys and whatever you like. It's being built so just get behind it and stop being negative ffs. clondalkindub (Dublin) - Posts: 9926 - 20/01/2017 11:19:36 1947289 Link 1 |
Hi guys.Greetings from Laandan taan!Just back from a walk to the Emirates Stadium and nursing a sore head. cuederocket (Dublin) - Posts: 5084 - 20/01/2017 11:21:53 1947290 Link 1 |
It is Dublin's own business where the build their stadium. The have 40% of the population of the country and are under-resourced when it comes to pitches- club and county. One has to remember that locating pitches for club or county is very expensive anywhere but exceptionally difficult/expensive in our capital. It is not that many years ago when you only had a couple of senior clubs south-side. I wish them the best of luck with their project as I would any county. browncows (Meath) - Posts: 2342 - 20/01/2017 11:22:24 1947291 Link 1 |