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The rights and wrongs of Galway and Leinster

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Replying To tiobraid: "You don't want to go to Salthill for a hurling match at anytime of the year. Trust me! Was there for a qualifier around 10 years ago and I would've walked home quicker. But the bigger issue is putting a stadium almost in the Atlantic. Madness!" yes you are correct, they should develop one of the fields of Athenry for the county team suckvalleypaddy (Galway) - Posts: 1670 - 14/12/2016 20:28:37 1940179 Link
Simple fact is that Galway want to have an equal footing like every other county and have all their team's competing within a "Provincial Structures like every other county. Not often I get to say this but I'm proud with the stance our county board are taking on this and making it a national issue. Unfortunately narrow minded counties with their own personal agendas are the one's that stand in the way of common sense and fairness but sure that's nothing new in the GAA world. Supermacs88 (Galway) - Posts: 248 - 15/12/2016 11:08:11 1940264 Link
Replying To Supermacs88: "Simple fact is that Galway want to have an equal footing like every other county and have all their team's competing within a "Provincial Structures like every other county. Not often I get to say this but I'm proud with the stance our county board are taking on this and making it a national issue. Unfortunately narrow minded counties with their own personal agendas are the one's that stand in the way of common sense and fairness but sure that's nothing new in the GAA world." In fairness, I am actively involved in a hurling club, drink in my local pub in Wexford as well as in the town itself, and I've yet to hear 1 normal GAA person who has an objection to Galway being involved in Leinster. Pinkie (Wexford) - Posts: 4100 - 15/12/2016 12:19:22 1940296 Link
As I said before the best structure would be two 'groupings' - let the provincial councils run them if that would get them through - Group 1- The 5 Munster Hurling Counties, 2 home games, 2 away games - top team get's 'home' for the final - 2v3 in a playoff - Group 2 - 4 Leinster and Galway - same format for the Christy Ring - allow the Ring winners a way back into the all ireland proper with the provincial runners up and 2v3 play off losers - If a Christy Ring County is consistently winning at underage/league etc. then promote them to a group instead of another team or add a round of games. 73forever (Limerick) - Posts: 89 - 15/12/2016 12:27:40 1940299 Link
Replying To Supermacs88: "Simple fact is that Galway want to have an equal footing like every other county and have all their team's competing within a "Provincial Structures like every other county. Not often I get to say this but I'm proud with the stance our county board are taking on this and making it a national issue. Unfortunately narrow minded counties with their own personal agendas are the one's that stand in the way of common sense and fairness but sure that's nothing new in the GAA world." To be fair to the provincial councils Galway doesn't come under their remit. The GAA at a central level should have taken control of this year's ago. You could have a National group stage played parallel to Provincial championships. 3 groups of 4 top 2 from each into knockout rounds. Munster and Leinster champions get a bye to the semifinals if they get out of their group, otherwise. If one of those provincial champions fails to get out of their group then an extra team gets added to the quarterfinals. Could be run at all levels. Keeps meaningful Provincial championships but properly incorporates Galway into the competition without a need for it to be part of a province. Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts: 4236 - 15/12/2016 13:37:34 1940322 Link
Replying To 73forever: "As I said before the best structure would be two 'groupings' - let the provincial councils run them if that would get them through - Group 1- The 5 Munster Hurling Counties, 2 home games, 2 away games - top team get's 'home' for the final - 2v3 in a playoff - Group 2 - 4 Leinster and Galway - same format for the Christy Ring - allow the Ring winners a way back into the all ireland proper with the provincial runners up and 2v3 play off losers - If a Christy Ring County is consistently winning at underage/league etc. then promote them to a group instead of another team or add a round of games." Closed shop there Limerick man, nice for the rest of us! bricktop (Down) - Posts: 2503 - 15/12/2016 15:12:41 1940349 Link
Replying To tiobraid: "You don't want to go to Salthill for a hurling match at anytime of the year. Trust me! Was there for a qualifier around 10 years ago and I would've walked home quicker. But the bigger issue is putting a stadium almost in the Atlantic. Madness!" And the sun always shines in Thurles you'll tell us next! It took me and hour and a half to get from Thurles to Templemore one year so spare me the traffic horror stories. Condorman (Dublin) - Posts: 983 - 15/12/2016 16:55:42 1940387 Link
The powers that be in the GAA have let the grass grow under their feet on the issue of the Hurling Championship.It needs radical re structuring in my opinion.Putting Galway into Leinster was papering over the cracks.Putting them in Leinster without their underage teams was a joke and should not have been accepted. Its time to get real boys, lets face it most of us could name the All ireland hurling finalists for 2017 right now. Condorman (Dublin) - Posts: 983 - 15/12/2016 17:01:31 1940389 Link
Replying To Condorman: "And the sun always shines in Thurles you'll tell us next! It took me and hour and a half to get from Thurles to Templemore one year so spare me the traffic horror stories." You must have walking it johnwhite12 (Kilkenny) - Posts: 306 - 15/12/2016 17:50:12 1940395 Link
Replying To Condorman: "The powers that be in the GAA have let the grass grow under their feet on the issue of the Hurling Championship.It needs radical re structuring in my opinion.Putting Galway into Leinster was papering over the cracks.Putting them in Leinster without their underage teams was a joke and should not have been accepted. Its time to get real boys, lets face it most of us could name the All ireland hurling finalists for 2017 right now." So who will be in the all Ireland hurling final for 2017. bud14 (Galway) - Posts: 296 - 15/12/2016 19:13:51 1940402 Link
Replying To bud14: "So who will be in the all Ireland hurling final for 2017." Kilkenny have contested 11 of the last 12 finals. Tipp have contested 5 of the last 8 finals. Bookies have them at 5/2 and 2/1 respectively to win it next year with Galway a cold third favs at 11/2. That should narrow it down for you. PoolSturgeon (Galway) - Posts: 1904 - 15/12/2016 21:14:24 1940432 Link
Replying To bricktop: "Closed shop there Limerick man, nice for the rest of us!" Any team can get into the all ireland proper in any year by winning the Christy Ring cup - win a few minor/u-21's and progress up the league and the case becomes compelling to be added to one of the groups. 73forever (Limerick) - Posts: 89 - 16/12/2016 08:15:20 1940469 Link
Replying To bud14: "So who will be in the all Ireland hurling final for 2017." Take your pick from Kk, Tipp, Waterford & Galway. Maybe Limerick or Clare. 6 being generous Barnowl94 (Galway) - Posts: 3150 - 17/12/2016 13:36:23 1940655 Link
Replying To Pinkie: "So what do people think of Galway's unanimous decision last night to play in 1 province and 1 only? From a Wexford perspective, I was embarrassed to see Liam Griffin, etc throwing up a white flag to Galway being increased competition. I think increased competition is good for Leinster, Wexford, Kilkenny, Dublin, etc. It is also good for Galway. I would support Galway in at every level, including provincial club championships, but are we then heading down a route where the Leinster and Munster champions play on St. Patricks day as a result? I would not support removing the knock-out nature of this championship. I can see not any reason why Galway should not be in Leinster hook line and sinker. But the flip side, is this yet again Galway blaming somebody else for their own falings? They blamed Anthony Cunningham, players, and now they are blaming the fact that they don't get a home game? The last time I looked, Croke Park is not in Galway and that is the sword on which they fall every time." All good points and I agree with all bar one. Nobody in Galway is 'blaming' any loss on not being in Leinster. It would be nice to go and support Galway and bring my younger cousins along with me to a game with the boundaries of Galway - even every 2nd year. I think that's fair? The_DOC (Galway) - Posts: 708 - 19/12/2016 16:32:49 1940990 Link
Replying To tiobraid: "You don't want to go to Salthill for a hurling match at anytime of the year. Trust me! Was there for a qualifier around 10 years ago and I would've walked home quicker. But the bigger issue is putting a stadium almost in the Atlantic. Madness!" Big difference between Salthill for a league game and Salthill during the summer! That said I agree with the traffic congestion problem that exists. I think they would need to come up with a strategic traffic management plan which involved park-and-ride from Ballybrit or similar. The_DOC (Galway) - Posts: 708 - 19/12/2016 16:34:59 1940991 Link
the more i have thought about this the more i think this is more of galway looking for excuses now that blaming a succession of managers,dropped players,etc have worn out. having known plenty of galway gaa people over the years through college in limerick,there seems to be a toxic club rivalry where clubs absolutely hate one another and can't put their rivalries aside and unite for a county cause. every county has their club rivalries and none more than my own,but i think galway seems worse than normal in that count. perfect10 (Wexford) - Posts: 3929 - 20/12/2016 09:45:26 1941080 Link
Replying To bud14: "So who will be in the all Ireland hurling final for 2017." Tipp and Waterford. Condorman (Dublin) - Posts: 983 - 20/12/2016 16:40:55 1941208 Link

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