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Replying To 73forever: "get your celtic jersey washed and stand outside croke park with a 'no foreign sports' banner?" There seems to be a terrible anti-Celtic feeling from some posters on this website - any particular reason for this (other than self-loathing)? PolicemanFox (Monaghan) - Posts: 158 - 30/11/2016 15:32:55 1937585 Link
Replying To janesboro: "http://www.leinsterrugby.ie/leinster-rugby-launches-aware-christmas-run-2016/ like this you mean http://www.munsterrugby.ie/community/in_the_community.php or this http://www.ulsterrugby.com/branch/charity-partnerships.php ormaybe this Still" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.connachtrugby.ie/connacht-rugby-announce-1516-official-charity-partners/" Still no wiser about your Celtic reference. From your links about charities: Munster: In 2010 Munster Rugby established an official structure to actively support nominated charities each season. Ulster: Charity for their own injured players!!! plus a few auctioned shirts. Give me a break. Connaught: Official Charity Partners for 2015/16 Announced I think you'll find that Celtic have been in the business a bit longer than those - since the 19th century. rcarragh (Dublin) - Posts: 305 - 30/11/2016 15:50:58 1937593 Link
Replying To PolicemanFox: "There seems to be a terrible anti-Celtic feeling from some posters on this website - any particular reason for this (other than self-loathing)?" I wouldn't say that. Theres quite an active thread on the SPL over there. gotmilk (Fermanagh) - Posts: 4971 - 30/11/2016 15:51:21 1937594 Link
I think you'll find that Celtic have been in the business a bit longer than those - since the 19th century. rcarragh (Dublin) - Posts:294 - 30/11/2016 15:50:58 so what janesboro (Limerick) - Posts: 1502 - 30/11/2016 15:53:09 1937595 Link
Still no wiser about your Celtic reference. rcarragh (Dublin) - Posts:294 - 30/11/2016 15:50:58 19 http://foot.ie/threads/180200-Dublin-Decider/page2 --picture here to enlighten you by the way have nothing against celtic always had soft spot for them due to chris morris packie , mick mccarthy , always cheer for them in champs league , janesboro (Limerick) - Posts: 1502 - 30/11/2016 15:58:21 1937598 Link
Replying To gotmilk: "I wouldn't say that. Theres quite an active thread on the SPL over there." Over where? PolicemanFox (Monaghan) - Posts: 158 - 30/11/2016 16:01:13 1937600 Link
Replying To gotmilk: "Lies. If you actually look at the post that debated this issue you will see numerous posters highlighting problems with it. I had raised the issue of our club championship being affected by it." Yes but people like you are in the minority. Many on this forum are suggesting that the gaa should lie down and allow rugby dictate terms for the future. Not sure why your taking such an aggressive tone. Surely we are in agreement. I wouldn't disrupt an under 10 match to facilitate the rugby world cup final. You should continue to object as you did regarding the disruption of fixtures. More brave gaels like you are needed. Concernedgael (Dublin) - Posts: 6 - 30/11/2016 16:02:13 1937601 Link
Replying To rcarragh: "Still no wiser about your Celtic reference. From your links about charities: Munster: In 2010 Munster Rugby established an official structure to actively support nominated charities each season. Ulster: Charity for their own injured players!!! plus a few auctioned shirts. Give me a break. Connaught: Official Charity Partners for 2015/16 Announced I think you'll find that Celtic have been in the business a bit longer than those - since the 19th century." also for donkeys years the limerick clubs have had a charity cup competition - all north munster sides (used to be 8 limerick teams) played a knockout competition -all gates went to charity it been going since at least 1925 -as a kid in 80s and 90s use get big gates -similar competition been running cork for year - ---- not as long as celtic but still done a lotta people a lotta good janesboro (Limerick) - Posts: 1502 - 30/11/2016 16:12:39 1937608 Link
Replying To Concernedgael: "Yes but people like you are in the minority. Many on this forum are suggesting that the gaa should lie down and allow rugby dictate terms for the future. Not sure why your taking such an aggressive tone. Surely we are in agreement. I wouldn't disrupt an under 10 match to facilitate the rugby world cup final. You should continue to object as you did regarding the disruption of fixtures. More brave gaels like you are needed." I am all for the world cup being here and gaa stadiums being used so we aren't in agreement. I pointed out that there could be an issue there and I believe that the GAA should have first preference on it. gotmilk (Fermanagh) - Posts: 4971 - 30/11/2016 16:59:41 1937621 Link
Replying To PolicemanFox: "Over where?" Elevenaside page. gotmilk (Fermanagh) - Posts: 4971 - 30/11/2016 17:00:09 1937623 Link
Why does'nt Concerned Gael organize a petition or start a facebook campaign to keep GAA grounds for the GAA only. galwayford (Galway) - Posts: 2519 - 03/12/2016 20:42:32 1938196 Link
The odd bit is that he's probably not a Gael, but a Dane, like the rest of us Dubs. /strokes red beard thoughtfully. Jaden (Dublin) - Posts: 139 - 05/12/2016 03:31:42 1938334 Link
Ironically with the increasing professionalism in the GAA even at club level with all the strength and conditioning that is going on, it has actually made rugby more accessable for your average GAA player as they have the muscle mass and physiques to compete on the rugby field! On a serious note, if the GAA are worried about the rise of rugby, then they need to do more to promote their own games. Being anti-rugby / anti-soccer won't increase GAA participation one ioata. We need more full time quality coaches working with schools (the IRFU have loads out there), we need to improve the quality of coaching that goes on a club underage level, we need to make GAA really fun and enjoyable for players from 6 to 14. We need to brand GAA games as cool and fun for all underage players, and we need to do more to make the pinnacle of our games the inter county scene to be seen as "must watch" and promote them, just like the english premier league market their product! All of this needs investment of time and effort from the GAA powers. Enough to the anti other sports she and more of the getting our own house in order. The rest of it will look after itself! galwaygael (Galway)** - Posts: 61 - 05/12/2016 17:59:39 1938469 Link
I do not have any issue with Rugby being played in idle stadiums , however I would be concerned that the money raised is not be properly used- give it to the clubs around the country to help them continue to promote the games as enough is being given to the GPA browncows (Meath) - Posts: 2342 - 06/12/2016 18:03:07 1938715 Link
Replying To browncows: "I do not have any issue with Rugby being played in idle stadiums , however I would be concerned that the money raised is not be properly used- give it to the clubs around the country to help them continue to promote the games as enough is being given to the GPA" Would agree with your sentiment re money distributed to the clubs Browncows but I must issue a health warning with that sentiment. You will hear lots from all rugby personalities on what a great sporting organisation the Gaa are & we are all sports followers. This will last till the RWC is here then it will be back to Gaa being for bog ball merchants. The Gaa authorities will thank clubs & members for agreeing to open up grounds to the RWC & that clubs & grassroots will all benefit from the windfall. When Croke Park was opened up initially we were told EVERY club would benefit, this turned out to be a lie. In Connacht for example the Connacht Council decided to spend the money on s centre of excellence in Bekan, Ballyhaunis, so no Connacht clubs got anything. Those of us who raised & queried this were silenced. I don't expect the Provincial Councils or Central Council to allow this money to filter down to any clubs. In fact by the time the RWC comes around Gaa will be either Pro or Semi Pro & that is where the money will go. Lots of stuff on the net on the original promises when Croke Park opened & what actually turned out to be the reality afterwards, worth researching. Your sentiment I agree with but the reality of it will be quite different. moc.dna (Galway) - Posts: 1212 - 06/12/2016 18:56:46 1938721 Link
moc.dna (Galway)- I would agree with your concern, as what has happened in the past has a habit of repeating itself browncows (Meath) - Posts: 2342 - 06/12/2016 20:14:33 1938742 Link
Replying To Concernedgael: "This will probably be savaged by the West brits amongst us but I refuse to hold my tongue any longer. I believe that it is crazy that the GAA would consider giving it's stadia and in the process a helping hand to a British sport who openly states it's intention to make itself top sport at the expense of our national pastimes. Is there anyone out there who knows of real actions we can take as individuals to damage this bid?" As a 32 county Irishman I would welcome cooperation with all sports, this is no threat to the GAA suckvalleypaddy (Galway) - Posts: 1669 - 06/12/2016 21:15:40 1938753 Link
Moc.dna, "In Connacht for example the Connacht Council decided to spend the money on s centre of excellence in Bekan, Ballyhaunis, so no Connacht clubs got anything. Those of us who raised & queried this were silenced." Surely having this fantastic facility has benefited many locally & in the province? keeper7 (Longford) - Posts: 4088 - 07/12/2016 02:21:27 1938792 Link
Replying To Concernedgael: "Thats the problem encompassed in a microcosm. The fact that the majority have already been brainwashed about rugby by the media is evident judging by the contributions to this very forum. Its now abnormal to hold the view that our sports are deserving of preferential treatment. Eventually the few remaining protesters will be silenced either by time or by the avalanche of the rugby bandwagon. Also, isnt it strange that GAA fans have now adapted the rugby stance that wearing a soccer jersey makes you somehow a legitimate target for abuse due to the idea that you are somehow lower class! Im not a great fan of Glasgow celtic but i do know that the club has its origins in the vast pool of desperate emigrants that flooded into Glasgow after the potato famine. Fans of that club have and always will have a strong affinity with our country. Those who wear that jersey demonstrate an awareness of our own troubled history and should not be vilified for choosing to do so!!" People have minds of their own. And if they are that fickle they'll just switch back to GAA in September or the next time their county does well. Sure we're all event junkies but we don't just simply dump one sport for another - in fact if you're like myself you can find the room to follow them all . If someone would make a better player Rugby than a GAA player or can get paid to play for Leinster or whatever then so be it... good luck to them... I don't think that will stop most people from playing GAA as there's only 4 provincial Rugby teams they can play for that would make it worth it. The GAA is unique in that people or the pride of the parish, and the pride of their county... The same allure of playing of playing for club like Garryowen or Blackrock if you're from somewhere Sligo just isn't there. All your doing by proposing to 'damage' the bid is to show the GAA up as insecure begrudgers, there's nothing positive to be gained by it - a backlash from the same media is all that would happen. This idea of a true gael standing for ultra-conserative values is just a silly argument and as damaging to and idea of the GAA as your idea of a West Brit idea about rugby. Ask the people of Limerick and Cork if they think they're West Brits. Personally I like watching the Ireland rugby team but living in Dublin, I do also dislike some of the quasi-elitist, superior tone of a lot of hardcore rugby fans and part of the media...But I just leave them at it, as if they can't understand how unique and special the GAA is then that's their loss. We'll survive the Rugby World Cup no problem at all... Al_Maguire (Donegal) - Posts: 244 - 07/12/2016 12:04:56 1938842 Link
Replying To Concernedgael: "Thats the problem encompassed in a microcosm. The fact that the majority have already been brainwashed about rugby by the media is evident judging by the contributions to this very forum. Its now abnormal to hold the view that our sports are deserving of preferential treatment. Eventually the few remaining protesters will be silenced either by time or by the avalanche of the rugby bandwagon. Also, isnt it strange that GAA fans have now adapted the rugby stance that wearing a soccer jersey makes you somehow a legitimate target for abuse due to the idea that you are somehow lower class! Im not a great fan of Glasgow celtic but i do know that the club has its origins in the vast pool of desperate emigrants that flooded into Glasgow after the potato famine. Fans of that club have and always will have a strong affinity with our country. Those who wear that jersey demonstrate an awareness of our own troubled history and should not be vilified for choosing to do so!!" People have minds of their own. And if they are that fickle they'll just switch back to GAA in September or the next time their county does well. Sure we're all event junkies but we don't just simply dump one sport for another - in fact if you're like myself you can find the room to follow them all . If someone would make a better player Rugby than a GAA player or can get paid to play for Leinster or whatever then so be it... good luck to them... I don't think that will stop most people from playing GAA as there's only 4 provincial Rugby teams they can play for that would make it worth it. The GAA is unique in that people or the pride of the parish, and the pride of their county... The same allure of playing of playing for club like Garryowen or Blackrock if you're from somewhere Sligo just isn't there. All your doing by proposing to 'damage' the bid is to show the GAA up as insecure begrudgers, there's nothing positive to be gained by it - a backlash from the same media is all that would happen. This idea of a true gael standing for ultra-conserative values is just a silly argument and as damaging to and idea of the GAA as your idea of a West Brit idea about rugby. Ask the people of Limerick and Cork if they think they're West Brits. Personally I like watching the Ireland rugby team but living in Dublin, I do also dislike some of the quasi-elitist, superior tone of a lot of hardcore rugby fans and part of the media...But I just leave them at it, as if they can't understand how unique and special the GAA is then that's their loss. We'll survive the Rugby World Cup no problem at all... Al_Maguire (Donegal) - Posts: 244 - 07/12/2016 12:36:36 1938847 Link