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Replying To TheGhost1: "That's stick ball so it doesn't count." What an ironic statement considering Kerry won an All Ireland in Hurling first before they won one in football.
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Replying To OLLIE: "What an ironic statement considering Kerry won an All Ireland in Hurling first before they won one in football." I think we might have one of these dreaded WUM's on our hands,Ollie.Early days,but it doesn't look good.Dont know why they bother as they never last.By the way,good luck to yere boys today v Rhode.
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Replying To cuederocket: "I think we might have one of these dreaded WUM's on our hands,Ollie.Early days,but it doesn't look good.Dont know why they bother as they never last.By the way,good luck to yere boys today v Rhode." Cheers Cued. It is gonna be a very tough task for S.O.M against Rhode. They are 11/2 to win at half time/full time against the Offaly men. They have won their previous two matches against Baltinglass and Sarsfields by winning at half time and full time. Rhode are missing a couple of players. You just never know. Fingers crossed for the Wee County men.
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Replying To OLLIE: "Cheers Cued. It is gonna be a very tough task for S.O.M against Rhode. They are 11/2 to win at half time/full time against the Offaly men. They have won their previous two matches against Baltinglass and Sarsfields by winning at half time and full time. Rhode are missing a couple of players. You just never know. Fingers crossed for the Wee County men." Good aul Rhode.I had some of these buckos in my cab few years back and i ended up going on a 24 hour bender with them.I introduced them to the delights of the "early house".Gas men.
cuederocket (Dublin) - Posts: 5084 - 27/11/2016 12:02:21
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Replying To janesboro: "ciaran careys point for limerick v clare" Yeah, they don't come bigger than that. The fecker! ;)
From a football perspective, Mikey Sheehy's goal against Kerry a couple of centuries ago.
MiAmigaVERONICA (Clare) - Posts: 302 - 27/11/2016 14:45:33
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Replying To royaldunne: "Again who said anything about greatest goals? I even said as others did it wasn't a great score skill Wise. However this is not greatest goals of all time as if it were neither fokeys not darbys (push on back should've been free out) were great goals. The greatest goal I have seen was in O'Byrne cup ,
What we are talking about is iconic SCORES. And in that category it certainly is, unless we bring everything down to only in all ire finals, which is just gibberish spouted by a bitter teenager. Or we take every score on its merit. I am not asked to spell out why event was ranked number 1 in a public vote as the greatest moment in gaa history, not football but gaa, or made it to top 5 in greatest IRISH sporting moments, but sure you and gm know better than anyone else." royaldunne - that's quite a hissy fit even for a Meathman/woman. Worthy of a bitter teen as you'd say yourself. Last time I looked at the House rules I don't have to check with you before using the adjective of my choice. OK? So retract the claws a bit.
Anyway if you can't make the jump from greatest to iconic let me explain why Darby's goal qualifies and Foleys doesn't make if for me at the national level:
Darby's goal:
At stake the biggest prize in Irish sport, millions watching or listening, one of the greatest teams ever in the final, the 5 in a row, the pre-printed celebratory T-shirts and the (awful) single. Then the underdogs win it with the last score of the game by a sub with his first touch of the ball. It was a life changing moment for him and a goal and game that will be remembered forever - pretty much the definition of an iconic score.
Foley's goal:
At stake a match against Wicklow in the next round, a Meath team that's almost finished and a Dublin team that's not quite there yet, two knackered teams and loads of space and a goal scored from all of 3 yards by a player who happened to be where he was because he probably didn't have the energy to run back up the field (a player who wouldn't have been too popular with anyone outside of Meath considering his approach to the game). Great for Meath, totally, but doesn't stack up on the national stage for me.
PolicemanFox (Monaghan) - Posts: 158 - 27/11/2016 17:02:37
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Replying To PolicemanFox: "I'm with gotmilk on this one. Foley's goal was great one for the Meathmen and was a great moment for them but they didn't complete the job that year and getting to the next round of the provincial championship is not a newsworthy event (in my book) so as far as nationwide goes it's not up there for me with the GREATEST goal of all time which was Seamus Darby '82. He pulled of one of the impossible feats by actually silencing 40,000 Kerrymen. I remember well the shocked faces and open mouths beside me on Hill 16 as the ball flew into the net...I doubt it'll ever happen again.
Hurling-wise for me it's got to be Ciaran Carey against Clare in '96. It was just a shame that Clare had to wait a year to get back to the All-Ireland." And how many thousands of Dubs do you think Foley silenced with his goal?? Personally I find the vocal Dub harder to silence than the vocal Kerryman. Foleys goal also had the effect of making the Evening Herald scurry about to collect the early edition of their paper which had declared on its sports headline that the Dubs had beaten Meath. Seamus Darby's goal will quite rightly go down in history not just because of the score itself but due to the fact that it deprived a historic five in a row by the Kingdom. Foleys goal will also quite rightly go down in history as one of the best worked goals ever and as the score that essentially broke the Dubs, they couldn't regroup to prevent the point by Beggy that followed, so both scores have an iconic and historic element that can not be denied
Richieq (Meath) - Posts: 3734 - 27/11/2016 22:32:09
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Replying To PolicemanFox: "royaldunne - that's quite a hissy fit even for a Meathman/woman. Worthy of a bitter teen as you'd say yourself. Last time I looked at the House rules I don't have to check with you before using the adjective of my choice. OK? So retract the claws a bit.
Anyway if you can't make the jump from greatest to iconic let me explain why Darby's goal qualifies and Foleys doesn't make if for me at the national level:
Darby's goal:
At stake the biggest prize in Irish sport, millions watching or listening, one of the greatest teams ever in the final, the 5 in a row, the pre-printed celebratory T-shirts and the (awful) single. Then the underdogs win it with the last score of the game by a sub with his first touch of the ball. It was a life changing moment for him and a goal and game that will be remembered forever - pretty much the definition of an iconic score.
Foley's goal:
At stake a match against Wicklow in the next round, a Meath team that's almost finished and a Dublin team that's not quite there yet, two knackered teams and loads of space and a goal scored from all of 3 yards by a player who happened to be where he was because he probably didn't have the energy to run back up the field (a player who wouldn't have been too popular with anyone outside of Meath considering his approach to the game). Great for Meath, totally, but doesn't stack up on the national stage for me." Foley ran from defence to be in position to score that goal he followed the movement all the way down the field so he was far from knackered. Of course I'm biased but most would say the working and vision used in scoring that goal so late in the game in sweltering heat and when all seemed lost, made it all the more an extraordinary score. Maybe Foley wasn't all that popular outside of Meath, do you think he or anyone from Meath cared about that fact?? No Meath footballer has been deemed popular outside of the county boundary and that's a fact that never caused us too many sleepless nights
Richieq (Meath) - Posts: 3734 - 27/11/2016 22:39:59
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Replying To PolicemanFox: "royaldunne - that's quite a hissy fit even for a Meathman/woman. Worthy of a bitter teen as you'd say yourself. Last time I looked at the House rules I don't have to check with you before using the adjective of my choice. OK? So retract the claws a bit.
Anyway if you can't make the jump from greatest to iconic let me explain why Darby's goal qualifies and Foleys doesn't make if for me at the national level:
Darby's goal:
At stake the biggest prize in Irish sport, millions watching or listening, one of the greatest teams ever in the final, the 5 in a row, the pre-printed celebratory T-shirts and the (awful) single. Then the underdogs win it with the last score of the game by a sub with his first touch of the ball. It was a life changing moment for him and a goal and game that will be remembered forever - pretty much the definition of an iconic score.
Foley's goal:
At stake a match against Wicklow in the next round, a Meath team that's almost finished and a Dublin team that's not quite there yet, two knackered teams and loads of space and a goal scored from all of 3 yards by a player who happened to be where he was because he probably didn't have the energy to run back up the field (a player who wouldn't have been too popular with anyone outside of Meath considering his approach to the game). Great for Meath, totally, but doesn't stack up on the national stage for me." Did anyone mention Brian Dooher's point into the Hill 16 goals from the right wing in 2008 after his solo down the wing?
Probably the best point i've seen in a final and i have seen quite a few,
Cavan_Slasher (Cavan) - Posts: 10253 - 27/11/2016 22:46:35
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Replying To Richieq: "Foley ran from defence to be in position to score that goal he followed the movement all the way down the field so he was far from knackered. Of course I'm biased but most would say the working and vision used in scoring that goal so late in the game in sweltering heat and when all seemed lost, made it all the more an extraordinary score. Maybe Foley wasn't all that popular outside of Meath, do you think he or anyone from Meath cared about that fact?? No Meath footballer has been deemed popular outside of the county boundary and that's a fact that never caused us too many sleepless nights" That's not a fact.
O'Rourke, Flynn, McEntee, O'Connell, Fay, Beggy, McDermott, Giles, Geraghty were all class footballers and there were many more from Meath that slipped my mind. I think others outside Meath liked watching Meath footballers even if they were a bit envious when they were at their peak.
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Replying To Cavan_Slasher: "Did anyone mention Brian Dooher's point into the Hill 16 goals from the right wing in 2008 after his solo down the wing?
Probably the best point i've seen in a final and i have seen quite a few," Agree with you there. Tomas O'Se reckons that the only time he felt Kerry were a bit unlucky in their defeats to Tyrone was in that final in 2008. I remember Dooher heading up the line with the ball and thinking, pop it off to someone or you are gonna get emptied over the sideline! Not a bit of it though. How he summoned the power and the technique to drill over a point like that following the run I'll never know. It was a real, "have a bit of that Kerry, what do you have for us?" moment. Brilliant score on the biggest stage against your decade long fiercest rivals. Fantastic!
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Replying To GreenandRed: "That's not a fact.
O'Rourke, Flynn, McEntee, O'Connell, Fay, Beggy, McDermott, Giles, Geraghty were all class footballers and there were many more from Meath that slipped my mind. I think others outside Meath liked watching Meath footballers even if they were a bit envious when they were at their peak." Fair play GreenandRed, your appreciation is welcome, I'm just gauging by my own experiences, perhaps envy was more the reason.
Richieq (Meath) - Posts: 3734 - 28/11/2016 09:28:58
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All '98 Final:
1) Donellean run from his own 20 - Sean óg finish
2) Sean óg runs the length of the field in the last 2 mins to score a point to put 4 between the teams
2) Diviley Free - PJ rounds the keeper - goal! Brings a tear of happiness to the eye
The_DOC (Galway) - Posts: 708 - 28/11/2016 10:11:25
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Been thinking about the non Dublin scores that have always stuck out for me. I'm only going to go for ones that I can remember. Obviously the likes of Darby, Sheehy and Fenton are very iconic scores but they were before my time.
- Mugsy goal v Dublin in 2005
- Ciarán Mac point v Dublin in 2006
- Maurice Fitz point v Dublin in 2001
- Ciarán Carey point v Clare in 1996
- Brian Dooher point v Kerry in 2008
- DJ point v Clare in 2002
- Paul Flynn goal v Cork in 2004
I'm sure there are more but they are my standouts.
MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13718 - 28/11/2016 10:40:50
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Outside of Tipp they don't come any bigger than Johnny Dooley's free in 94.
Followed by Pat O'Connor's goal straight away after. The best memories for me from that game however were Billy Dooley's 3 points in a row (I believe)...from the same spot! don't think he moved for 5 minutes. By far and away the most skilful team that every played.
tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 28/11/2016 10:59:07
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Foley's goal was a massive score.In a game that gripped the country and the likes of which may never be seen again.Four titanic battles,with Dublin looking like they'd finally shaken off a Meath team that would never die on that fateful Saturday.It pains me to watch that goal to this day.It certainly was a seismic GAA moment.A fantastic goal.
Seamus Darby scored a truly magnificent goal v the greatest team to ever play the game.To stop the five-in-a-row near the game's dying embers elevates it to GAA cult-like importance.The GAA world shook as Kerry's net bulged.When i see this goal now it still loses none of its significance and emotion.
Some other iconic scores
1 Nicky English kicked goal v Cork in 1987
2 Aidan Ryan goal v Cork in 1991 when the crowd invaded the pitch an a man in a wheelchair could be seen doing a 360!
3 John Fenton howitzer from a 40 yard ground strike v Limerick in 1987
4 Dooher's point v Kerry after bursting up the Cusack Stand sideline
5 Mikey Sheehy free kick goal v a hapless P Cullen
6 C Carey last gasp winner v Clare
7 DJ Carey goals v Antrim,Wexford,Clare (twice) and Galway
8 M Fitz wonder score v Dublin
9 P Flynn 30 yard bullet with top spin v Cork.
10 Diarmuid O Sullivan bursting out from his own 21,leaving a sorry Limerick man eating the turf with a bone-shuddering tackle as he strikes a crowd-lifting point from over 100 yards.
cuederocket (Dublin) - Posts: 5084 - 28/11/2016 11:15:53
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Replying To Richieq: "Foley ran from defence to be in position to score that goal he followed the movement all the way down the field so he was far from knackered. Of course I'm biased but most would say the working and vision used in scoring that goal so late in the game in sweltering heat and when all seemed lost, made it all the more an extraordinary score. Maybe Foley wasn't all that popular outside of Meath, do you think he or anyone from Meath cared about that fact?? No Meath footballer has been deemed popular outside of the county boundary and that's a fact that never caused us too many sleepless nights"
Breffni40 (Cavan) - Posts: 12121 - 28/11/2016 11:59:13
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Replying To Richieq: "Foley ran from defence to be in position to score that goal he followed the movement all the way down the field so he was far from knackered. Of course I'm biased but most would say the working and vision used in scoring that goal so late in the game in sweltering heat and when all seemed lost, made it all the more an extraordinary score. Maybe Foley wasn't all that popular outside of Meath, do you think he or anyone from Meath cared about that fact?? No Meath footballer has been deemed popular outside of the county boundary and that's a fact that never caused us too many sleepless nights" I'm sure the siege mentality served you well, but this has no basis in reality. Multiple Meath players are widely respected and popular across the country.
Breffni40 (Cavan) - Posts: 12121 - 28/11/2016 12:01:03
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ciaran carey point v clare is still a moment that sends shivers down my spine.
carey solo running up the field with every sinew of his heart driving him on,almost stumbling with exhaustion towards the end,taking the shot,knocking out the all-ireland champions without reproach.there must have been heart attacks in the gaelic grounds that fine june day.
bring back the straight knock-out.
perfect10 (Wexford) - Posts: 3929 - 28/11/2016 12:15:21
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A young Eoin Kelly's goal against Fizty off his left side. The camera hardly could pick it up he hit it so well.
The same legends goals against Donal Og where he turned on his right and nearly broke the net!
tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 28/11/2016 13:06:45
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