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They did indeed. Between 1959 and 1969 they played in Munster.
OLLIE (Louth) - Posts: 12224 - 17/11/2016 16:56:19 1935139 Link 0 |
Im not sure your right. For the first time in years I'd argue KK need serious competition in Leinster to develop their players and panel. If they came in cold in a semi they could get blown out of the water. Possibly! Or hopefully!! Having said that, Galway into Munster makes no sense what so ever. tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 17/11/2016 16:59:29 1935141 Link 0 |
From a galway point of view, I think our demands are basic enough. Home games in the city, what's the. Big deal. Underage teams in, again, no big deal. We don't care at this stage which province gives it to us, we just want to become a normal hurling county, same as everyone else. galwaydublin (Galway) - Posts: 226 - 17/11/2016 18:14:43 1935156 Link 1 |
As a wexford hurling man I fully believe than Galway should be fully involved in lenister hurling from minor, u 21 and senior. .. If we in wexford want our standard to improve we need to play the best and let that start at minor !!! It's now 31 years since we have won a lenister minor, so what's going to change???? In my view it will only bring improvement to wexford hurling and that applies to offally laois and the other counties involved. ... We are isolated and live in a hurling a bubble in wexford and the higher standard we play at an earlier age for our young hurlers can only bring improvement .. and want wrong with Galway in wexford park??? And a trip across the great shannon tonydoranfan (Wexford) - Posts: 550 - 17/11/2016 18:26:51 1935158 Link 0 |
With all respect to other Counties but this would be a free pass to KK to all Ireland semi without a finger being put on them while the rest of Munster and Galway take lumps out of each other from May onwards. therealtmo (Tipperary) - Posts: 1292 - 17/11/2016 19:02:48 1935170 Link 0 |
With all due respect Kilkenny had a free past for 10 -12 year in Ireland never mind Leinster , If Galway go Kerry should go to. Galway hugely improved this year and for me I think they are well capable of winning an all Ireland, good manager and were very competitive last season. I'd expect Wexford to improve this year , Dublin will be competitive to , the rest are way off the pace in Leinster when it comes to challenging the cats! Galway should stay , include them at all levels and see how it goes worth a shot, home and away venue to. ke40 (Kildare) - Posts: 209 - 17/11/2016 20:26:50 1935192 Link 1 |
Dont be silly.In the 6 All Ireland finals Kilkenny and Tipp played in the last 8 years,Kilkenny won 3,Tipp won 2 and one game was drawn.Greaest team ever,no doubt,but Tipp have put it up to them,bigtime.
cuederocket (Dublin) - Posts: 5084 - 17/11/2016 20:41:47 1935200 Link 0 |
Don't be a fool , 2006/07/08/09/11/12/14/15 all Ireland champions !
ke40 (Kildare) - Posts: 209 - 17/11/2016 21:36:43 1935218 Link 0 |
You said Kilkenny had a free pass in Ireland for 10 - 12 years.I certainly don't think they had a free pass from Tipp as their 6 All Ireland finals prove.Only a fool would think otherwise.Thanks for the stats ; really enlightening.
cuederocket (Dublin) - Posts: 5084 - 17/11/2016 21:46:48 1935220 Link 0 |
heres an idea - it may be rubbish janesboro (Limerick) - Posts: 1502 - 17/11/2016 21:52:18 1935224 Link 0 |
At the end of the day it's not a Leinster championship if Galway are in it. And it's not a Munster championship if Galway are in it. No matter what way you dress it up Galway are in Connacht. If I was a Galway man I wouldn't thank you for a Leinster or Munster medal. Awwwwnow (Cavan) - Posts: 1050 - 17/11/2016 22:18:06 1935228 Link 1 |
Yeah, I think you make a fair point. Since 2010, Kilkenny have still been the best team in the country, and an amazing team, but it hasn't been a cakewalk, not like it was in the late 2000's. Even apart from Tipp, in the last 5 years Galway have beaten them in a Leinster final, and held them to a draw an AI final, Dublin and Cork beat them in the championship in 2013, and Limerick (2015) and Waterford(this year) had mighty semi-final matches with them, including Waterford bringing them to a draw this year. So, still the top team, but its a more competitive AI championship overall than its given credit for. Definitely not the foregone conclusion that people try to keep writing it off as. I just think the provincial system is working against it. Unfortunately. And while I'd hate to lose the Munster Championship, wider national interest in the hurling championship only seems to start with the AI final. I think the sooner we move to a system where Tipp v Kilkenny could be the first game of the championship, rather than the last, the better. Marlon_JD (Tipperary) - Posts: 1823 - 17/11/2016 23:02:00 1935231 Link 0 |
It comes up every year about scrapping the Provincials. Why do ye waste yer breath anymore? The only reason for this is driven by KK's dominance in Leinster. Not one Munster team wants to get rid of Munster because they all believe every year they can win it. tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 18/11/2016 08:37:24 1935240 Link 0 |
Will we scrap the football too since only one is anyway competitive most years?
tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 18/11/2016 08:39:10 1935241 Link 0 |
I'm struggling to see any logic especially to your last sentence. Why don't we put the 4 semi finalists this year into one group and get all the big games out of the way early. One out of the group then so only one strong team can get to the final. You want the two best teams in the first game? I'd go back to straight knockout hurling and give us club hurlers a chance to play some hurling for a change. Wasn't it great when we were U-16! tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 18/11/2016 08:44:08 1935244 Link 0 |
Football may not be competitive but at least the counties playing within each provincial are from the province. Would Tipperary football players value a Connacht football medal if they had to play in Connacht? No they wouldn't. Provincial competitions are kept because of money no other reason. Galway use Leinster to get game time to try and win the big one. A Leinster or Munster medal means nothing to them 2 groups of 5 in hurling and 8 groups of 4 in football with top team in each group playing in quarters. Scrap the provincials in both codes leaves more time for decent club football too. Awwwwnow (Cavan) - Posts: 1050 - 18/11/2016 09:10:04 1935253 Link 1 |
Fair point but do you think a Munster medal means nothing to the 5 Munster counties or would a Leinster medal mean nothing to the Leinster counties? Change the whole thing for 1 county? No thanks. tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 18/11/2016 09:23:01 1935254 Link 0 |
id prefer to keep the provincials for a few reasons janesboro (Limerick) - Posts: 1502 - 18/11/2016 10:12:23 1935273 Link 0 |
Just read Cillian Buckley's view. He's dead right. I don't remember KK playing too many Leinster games in Nolan Park either. Galway need to be campaigning to get the underage teams in and give up on the home and away rubbish. They are where they are. tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 18/11/2016 10:28:08 1935286 Link 0 |
Well if the whole thing can't be changed and I wouldn't expect it to for one county then they should go back to the original system where Galway played in the all Ireland semi every year .whats the point in playing in a province with no attachment? They won 3 all irelands in 60 odd years by playing in the semi final each year. A very poor return. If the provincials are to be kept well keep it to the counties from the respective province , otherwise it becomes a total farce Awwwwnow (Cavan) - Posts: 1050 - 18/11/2016 10:48:18 1935290 Link 0 |