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Replying To galwayford: "Simple things like putting up a sign outside of the Club grounds like "New Players welcome" or Céad Míle Fáilte" will help market the GAA." In my experience when I moved down to Dublin that wasn't the case for me. The most important thing anyway for the GAA is to get kids playing early and in the game from as young an age as possible. We do a great job of that with Cumman na mBunscol. New players welcome isn't going to add that many people who aren't already thoroughly in the game. Improving the club season and keeping more people playing the game into adulthood whatever their level is also more important. Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts: 4241 - 29/12/2016 22:38:08 1942281 Link
Replying To ormondbannerman: "ormondbannerman -typical rant by a guy who is obviously confused, quote: 'The amount of booze on the terraces is ridiculous'. You were obviously at a rugby match and got confused by the shape of the ball! Concussion is a serious problem in rugby and that is the reason that the rules regarding same has been changed twice in the last 9 months. You obviously have not watched your neighbours comment about same. Greenand Red/Galwayford- agree with you and add that the Independent Newspaper would be better off contributing to their staff's pensions fund (past and present). browncows (Meath) - Posts:1289 - 28/12/2016 10:20:18 Drop the name calling... Well considering ive been to plenty of hurling games in CP for tipp and been on buses with mates to those games the amount of booze on terraces is ridiculous with people sneaking it in. Concussion is a major issue in rugby but is at least highlighted and worked on a lot to try improve knowledge. Ive been in seats in Thomond for rugby, Croke Park for Hurling and Gaelic and Aviva for Rugby and been at many other sports and had booze spilled on me at all. ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts:12465 - 26/12/2016 23:21:46 Nobody believes you mate. Breffni39 (Cavan) - Posts:10749 - 28/12/2016 10:39:28 Drop the condescending "mate" and it is true. So you really saying youve never seen or heard of people having drink spilt on them at hurling or gaa games predominantly in CP? If you say you havent then you are either completely ignorant, blind or oblivious of the very obvious" when did that happen so?..you cant bring drink into your seat in croke park..pretty common knowledge so tell the truth...it doesnt happen a lot alano12 (Dublin) - Posts: 2208 - 30/12/2016 15:04:45 1942362 Link
when did that happen so?..you cant bring drink into your seat in croke park..pretty common knowledge so tell the truth...it doesnt happen a lot alano12 (Dublin) - Posts:1309 - 30/12/2016 15:04:45 Has happened to me or people in my group at last 2 games ive been to. Tipp hurling games in CP. Seats in lower canal end ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 30/12/2016 16:18:58 1942373 Link
Replying To ormondbannerman: "when did that happen so?..you cant bring drink into your seat in croke park..pretty common knowledge so tell the truth...it doesnt happen a lot alano12 (Dublin) - Posts:1309 - 30/12/2016 15:04:45 Has happened to me or people in my group at last 2 games ive been to. Tipp hurling games in CP. Seats in lower canal end" I have probably been in Croke Park a lot more than Ormond,I have never had drink spilled on me and the only place I have seen drinking is under the stands, mooncat (Kilkenny) - Posts: 534 - 30/12/2016 17:35:07 1942376 Link
In bits here thinking of Ormo rocking up to sporting events and getting drink spilled on him every time. Bad Luck Ormo. Breffni40 (Cavan) - Posts: 12124 - 30/12/2016 18:29:52 1942383 Link
I have probably been in Croke Park a lot more than Ormond,I have never had drink spilled on me and the only place I have seen drinking is under the stands, mooncat (Kilkenny) - Posts:349 - 30/12/2016 17:35:07 That you may have been in CP more than me doesnt mean i havent had drink spilled on me in Croke Park while at games. ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 30/12/2016 18:34:38 1942384 Link
This thread has developed into a pantomime sketch - appropriate for the time of year! I got beer spilled on me! Oh no you didn't! Oh yes I did! Oh no you didn't! Oh yes I did! It's a sports forum lads! jimski (Kildare) - Posts: 381 - 30/12/2016 18:56:25 1942385 Link
Replying To ormondbannerman: "I have probably been in Croke Park a lot more than Ormond,I have never had drink spilled on me and the only place I have seen drinking is under the stands, mooncat (Kilkenny) - Posts:349 - 30/12/2016 17:35:07 That you may have been in CP more than me doesnt mean i havent had drink spilled on me in Croke Park while at games." I didnt say you had"nt drink spilled on you,I said I have never seen drinking in the stands or had drink spilled on me and I attend a lot of games there mooncat (Kilkenny) - Posts: 534 - 30/12/2016 19:06:38 1942388 Link
A new Casement Park and floodlit Pearse Stadium could help in the RWC 2023 bid. DUP support this I believe. GAA could get a windfall from the tournament. Time to work with Rugby especially as it is a United Ireland game. Time for common sense. suckvalleypaddy (Galway) - Posts: 1675 - 30/12/2016 20:27:15 1942399 Link
I didnt say you had"nt drink spilled on you,I said I have never seen drinking in the stands or had drink spilled on me and I attend a lot of games there mooncat (Kilkenny) - Posts:350 - 30/12/2016 19:06:38any and every game ive been to in Croke Park there has been drinking at the seats be that all ireland quarters, semis, finals or qualifiers ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 30/12/2016 21:08:48 1942402 Link
Replying To ormondbannerman: "I didnt say you had"nt drink spilled on you,I said I have never seen drinking in the stands or had drink spilled on me and I attend a lot of games there mooncat (Kilkenny) - Posts:350 - 30/12/2016 19:06:38any and every game ive been to in Croke Park there has been drinking at the seats be that all ireland quarters, semis, finals or qualifiers" if you are that unlucky I suggest you come prepared in future,put on your wetgear mooncat (Kilkenny) - Posts: 534 - 30/12/2016 21:22:18 1942403 Link
Tomsmith Cavan here Another thing I notice about the Rugby fellows. The nearly all speak with a different accent to the GAA fellows. It rare that you would hear an inner city Dublin accent. The names are all like good names Brians are all Bryans Danno's are Daniels Tommo's are pronounced as Thomais Its nice but different tomsmith (Cavan) - Posts: 3861 - 31/12/2016 18:42:42 1942502 Link
Replying To sceptical: "First of all that is the typical rugby response when cornered. Sure it happens in the gaa it's not just us etc! That statement is also rubbish. Yes an occasional concussion occurs in football. However they are rare events They are not rare events in rugby. every tackle in rugby is potentially damaging to the brain. It is madness that parents allow young children play it." A couple of years ago in a game my team won we got 3 concussions. When it was mentioned about teams being over physical and dangerous it was said that we won so shouldn't be giving out. Next Game we lost and had a player put in hospital. When it was said then it was sour grapes. dstuction (Donegal) - Posts:1075 - 05/01/2017 09:14:06 1943167 From another thread yesterday bad.monkey (USA) - Posts: 4624 - 06/01/2017 13:12:02 1943500 Link
Replying To bad.monkey: "A couple of years ago in a game my team won we got 3 concussions. When it was mentioned about teams being over physical and dangerous it was said that we won so shouldn't be giving out. Next Game we lost and had a player put in hospital. When it was said then it was sour grapes. dstuction (Donegal) - Posts:1075 - 05/01/2017 09:14:06 1943167 From another thread yesterday" Your point is? My point was that every tackle in rugby could potentially lead to a concussion. That story FROM A FEW YEARS AGO is perhaps a rare example of concussion in gaa. However, I Think That This story has a number of flaws. Who diagnosed these concussion if they happened at all. sceptical (Cavan) - Posts: 544 - 06/01/2017 13:49:40 1943510 Link
Aidan O'Shea "'I've been concussed a lot. The first time I got it was when I was 16. I didn't even know what it was back then. I've been concussed in Connacht finals. It happens quite easily to me. I'm not a doctor but I think the more you get concussed the easier is to happen." 1 in 4 GAA players admit playing on with a concussion link bad.monkey (USA) - Posts: 4624 - 06/01/2017 17:55:35 1943562 Link
Replying To bad.monkey: "Aidan O'Shea "'I've been concussed a lot. The first time I got it was when I was 16. I didn't even know what it was back then. I've been concussed in Connacht finals. It happens quite easily to me. I'm not a doctor but I think the more you get concussed the easier is to happen." 1 in 4 GAA players admit playing on with a concussion link" Was he also concussed in both the drawn final? - a couple of his shot decision would suggest he could have been!. Even you should know that most players do not know when they are concussed and it takes someone with medical expertise to decide on such incidents- You post does not add up. Your quote of 1 in 4- what did you get that quote from or was it made up by someone, somewhere, who likes a good story. browncows (Meath) - Posts: 2342 - 06/01/2017 18:43:32 1943572 Link
Replying To browncows: " Replying To bad.monkey: "Aidan O'Shea "'I've been concussed a lot. The first time I got it was when I was 16. I didn't even know what it was back then. I've been concussed in Connacht finals. It happens quite easily to me. I'm not a doctor but I think the more you get concussed the easier is to happen." 1 in 4 GAA players admit playing on with a concussion link" Was he also concussed in both the drawn final? - a couple of his shot decision would suggest he could have been!. Even you should know that most players do not know when they are concussed and it takes someone with medical expertise to decide on such incidents- You post does not add up. Your quote of 1 in 4- what did you get that quote from or was it made up by someone, somewhere, who likes a good story." The research was carried out by NUI Galway and published in the International Journal of Adolescent Mental Health in 2016 The original link didnt work . Here is another link I agree players cant assess concussion which teally was my original point. If a player in any sport is suspected of being concussed they should be substituted immediately. Not 'assessed' as these tests are inconclusive and told to toughen up as was another posters experience Its a problem in GAA. Anyone who has played decent club level will have seen and experienced it bad.monkey (USA) - Posts: 4624 - 06/01/2017 19:21:48 1943577 Link
Replying To bad.monkey: " Replying To browncows: "[quote=bad.monkey: "Aidan O'Shea "'I've been concussed a lot. The first time I got it was when I was 16. I didn't even know what it was back then. I've been concussed in Connacht finals. It happens quite easily to me. I'm not a doctor but I think the more you get concussed the easier is to happen." 1 in 4 GAA players admit playing on with a concussion link" Was he also concussed in both the drawn final? - a couple of his shot decision would suggest he could have been!. Even you should know that most players do not know when they are concussed and it takes someone with medical expertise to decide on such incidents- You post does not add up. Your quote of 1 in 4- what did you get that quote from or was it made up by someone, somewhere, who likes a good story." The research was carried out by NUI Galway and published in the International Journal of Adolescent Mental Health in 2016 The original link didnt work . Here is another link I agree players cant assess concussion which teally was my original point. If a player in any sport is suspected of being concussed they should be substituted immediately. Not 'assessed' as these tests are inconclusive and told to toughen up as was another posters experience Its a problem in GAA. Anyone who has played decent club level will have seen and experienced it"]It may well be a problem in GAA. But the very nature of rugby is to physically hurt your opponent. 'Hit the fkr hard enough so he won't get up so quick. Hit the fkrs they're no relations' as we were told. It can be a dangerousvgame ifcplayers are reckless. And we were the bottom of the rung of junior rugby in Connacht 20 years ago. Imagine the hits nowadays at top level! They've introduced a new tackle rule In rugby that they hope will lessen the concussion injuries. Remains to be seen if It will. Might even reduce crowds who like to see bIg hits but probably bring in more who should see the ball thrown around a bit more. Anyways. GAA and Rugby seasons dovetail nicely. Either should talk up the other to get new players in rather than finding faults with the other. GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7370 - 06/01/2017 20:04:50 1943589 Link
Replying To GreenandRed: " Replying To bad.monkey: "[quote=browncows: "[quote=bad.monkey: "Aidan O'Shea "'I've been concussed a lot. The first time I got it was when I was 16. I didn't even know what it was back then. I've been concussed in Connacht finals. It happens quite easily to me. I'm not a doctor but I think the more you get concussed the easier is to happen." 1 in 4 GAA players admit playing on with a concussion link" Was he also concussed in both the drawn final? - a couple of his shot decision would suggest he could have been!. Even you should know that most players do not know when they are concussed and it takes someone with medical expertise to decide on such incidents- You post does not add up. Your quote of 1 in 4- what did you get that quote from or was it made up by someone, somewhere, who likes a good story." The research was carried out by NUI Galway and published in the International Journal of Adolescent Mental Health in 2016 The original link didnt work . Here is another link I agree players cant assess concussion which teally was my original point. If a player in any sport is suspected of being concussed they should be substituted immediately. Not 'assessed' as these tests are inconclusive and told to toughen up as was another posters experience Its a problem in GAA. Anyone who has played decent club level will have seen and experienced it"]It may well be a problem in GAA. But the very nature of rugby is to physically hurt your opponent. 'Hit the fkr hard enough so he won't get up so quick. Hit the fkrs they're no relations' as we were told. It can be a dangerousvgame ifcplayers are reckless. And we were the bottom of the rung of junior rugby in Connacht 20 years ago. Imagine the hits nowadays at top level! They've introduced a new tackle rule In rugby that they hope will lessen the concussion injuries. Remains to be seen if It will. Might even reduce crowds who like to see bIg hits but probably bring in more who should see the ball thrown around a bit more. Anyways. GAA and Rugby seasons dovetail nicely. Either should talk up the other to get new players in rather than finding faults with the other."]Yes fully agree. I guess the 'big hit' brigade can watch MMA . bad.monkey (USA) - Posts: 4624 - 06/01/2017 20:43:56 1943598 Link
This has nothing to do with talking up or down any sport. It is quiet obvious to anyone who cares to watch in real time that by playing Rugby you are many times more likely to get concussed by the tackle / hit. I'm a bit dubious about data produced by a university as part of research and then quoting ratios - how many GAA player/medics did the interview bearing in mind that there are many thousand players around the country. browncows (Meath) - Posts: 2342 - 07/01/2017 15:34:29 1943750 Link