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Replying To TheFlaker:  "It's been shared all over Twitter. I'm not searching for bottomfeed who are abusing people online."
Why because they don't agree with you they are bottomfeed
very narrow minded as lots of people from other counties feel Keegan didn't deserve it as he got sent off in the replay final, escaped a sending off in drawn final and got Sean cavanagh sent off targetting him in quarter final, he didn't manage to help mayo win a single trophy this year it seems very hard to actually make a case for how he won it at this stage.

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 04/11/2016 21:12:28    1931679

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Replying To hill16no1man:  "Goalkeeper gets dropped for final give him an all star
half back gets sent off in all ireland final give him footballer of the year.
sure they are the all ireland champions
sure they did win their provincial title
Sure they did win the national league
Haha the gaa love in for mayo I thaught stopped at giving them the majority of tickets for both all ireland final days,
Theirs not much more they cand do off the pitch for them. Thank god you can only win sam on the pitch.
the odds on mayo winning rte team of the year have been slashed by paddy power haha"
Player v team concept can be a difficult one to grasp for some.

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7364 - 04/11/2016 21:13:29    1931680

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The team looks about right to me. Granted you could make a case for a number of fellas who had fine years but that is always the way.

MuckrossHead (Donegal) - Posts: 5028 - 04/11/2016 21:13:35    1931681

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Replying To realdub:  "Congratulations to Lee Keegan, super footballer, Fenton and Kilkenny are young enough to have their day."
Don't agree
sure you could say same about Gleeson winning the hurling callanan should have got that Gleeson young enough still to have his day

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 04/11/2016 21:16:15    1931682

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Replying To GreenandRed:  "Player v team concept can be a difficult one to grasp for some."
Yeah you generally have to do something good to win an award that can be hard to grasp. Getting dropped for the final and sent off in the final doesn't usually constitute that

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 04/11/2016 21:18:36    1931685

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Only certainty with the Allstars is clondalkindub will begrudge anyone named Mchugh or McGee who wins one

ruanua (Donegal) - Posts: 4966 - 04/11/2016 21:30:30    1931691

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Replying To TheFlaker:  "It's been shared all over Twitter. I'm not searching for bottomfeed who are abusing people online."
Great, let them at it.No need to tell the us how bad it is when it should be a positive experience.

Dubh_linn (Dublin) - Posts: 2312 - 04/11/2016 22:00:28    1931699

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Replying To hill16no1man:  "Why because they don't agree with you they are bottomfeed
very narrow minded as lots of people from other counties feel Keegan didn't deserve it as he got sent off in the replay final, escaped a sending off in drawn final and got Sean cavanagh sent off targetting him in quarter final, he didn't manage to help mayo win a single trophy this year it seems very hard to actually make a case for how he won it at this stage."
Listen man, you are so biased it isn't even funny. It isn't their opinion , it is the abusive way the express it. You banging on about the Tyrone game. Keegan was class all year, get over it. I wouldn't have minded Fenton getting it. If he did I wouldn't be typing bull on pages as if it were some outrage. Keegan winning it is not a surprise, unless you are blind or biased.

TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 7907 - 04/11/2016 22:04:17    1931701

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Replying To hill16no1man:  "Yeah you generally have to do something good to win an award that can be hard to grasp. Getting dropped for the final and sent off in the final doesn't usually constitute that"
Naming all Dublin's great team achievements in 2016 doesn't discount the great displays of players from other counties.

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7364 - 04/11/2016 22:18:07    1931704

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Replying To hill16no1man:  "Goalkeeper gets dropped for final give him an all star
half back gets sent off in all ireland final give him footballer of the year.
sure they are the all ireland champions
sure they did win their provincial title
Sure they did win the national league
Haha the gaa love in for mayo I thaught stopped at giving them the majority of tickets for both all ireland final days,
Theirs not much more they cand do off the pitch for them. Thank god you can only win sam on the pitch.
the odds on mayo winning rte team of the year have been slashed by paddy power haha"
So you're annoyed Cluxton didn't get another award! Fair enough I don't think anyone would have complained too much had he won it. The argument about Clarke being dropped for the final is irrelevant as that was more a reflection on management than Clarke himself, as events subsequently proved. Keegans award was given to him by his fellow players who obviously felt his displays all year warranted the award. Again if Fenton got it there would have been few complaints but arguing that Keegan was an undeserving winner because he was harshly black carded in the final, is somewhat petty. Bernard Brogan won his award in 2010 without even playing in the final. Did you complain that it was undeserved? The rest of the post doesn't make any sense.

Llaw_Gyffes (Mayo) - Posts: 1113 - 04/11/2016 22:23:24    1931706

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All the players chosen are top class footballers and deserve their awards. Yes, you have to have sympathy with a number of players, who were probably the equal of those chosen, but there were only 15 places to be filled. Hopefully some or all of them will make it in to the top 15 next year.
Congratulations to Keegan on getting the Player of the Year award. It was well deserved. I think O'Connor was lucky to get his award.
Gleeson is a fantastic talent but I don't agree with any player getting both awards.

neverright (Roscommon) - Posts: 1648 - 04/11/2016 23:34:01    1931720

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Replying To TheFlaker:  "Listen man, you are so biased it isn't even funny. It isn't their opinion , it is the abusive way the express it. You banging on about the Tyrone game. Keegan was class all year, get over it. I wouldn't have minded Fenton getting it. If he did I wouldn't be typing bull on pages as if it were some outrage. Keegan winning it is not a surprise, unless you are blind or biased."
How is it biased to point out what people from neutral counties are saying????

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 04/11/2016 23:44:39    1931721

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Replying To GreenandRed:  "Naming all Dublin's great team achievements in 2016 doesn't discount the great displays of players from other counties."
No but being dropped and sent off for the biggest game of the year kind of does don't you think?
when you consider cluxton didn't get one for 10 minutes of a bad game and kev Mac didn't get one despite being favourite for the footballer of the year going into the final, it shows no consistency in why players are being selected.
take the hurler of the year callanan was robbed there too, the guy hit what 1-11 in the Munster final were Gleeson was taken off and he got something like 0-13 in the all ireland final again, so where's the sense in the selections? It's not biased to point stuff out is it?

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 04/11/2016 23:50:25    1931722

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Replying To Llaw_Gyffes:  "So you're annoyed Cluxton didn't get another award! Fair enough I don't think anyone would have complained too much had he won it. The argument about Clarke being dropped for the final is irrelevant as that was more a reflection on management than Clarke himself, as events subsequently proved. Keegans award was given to him by his fellow players who obviously felt his displays all year warranted the award. Again if Fenton got it there would have been few complaints but arguing that Keegan was an undeserving winner because he was harshly black carded in the final, is somewhat petty. Bernard Brogan won his award in 2010 without even playing in the final. Did you complain that it was undeserved? The rest of the post doesn't make any sense."
It's not the fact he didn't win the all ireland final its the fact he done nothing much all year with mayo to deserve it.
he done nothing in the league, was again annonymous in connacht and targetted Sean cavanagh in the quarter finals and got him sent off, had decent game against tipp, lucky not to be shown line in drawn final and eventually got what was coming in the replay when got the line.
if the reason cluxton didn't win one was because he had 10 minutes of a bad spell in a game where he found 19 out of 22 kickouts, you can hardly justify why Keegan got player of year, don't remember any standout performances from him. Seems like the hurling one were callanan didn't get it that players voted for personal reasons not what happened on pitch

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 04/11/2016 23:59:43    1931728

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Replying To Llaw_Gyffes:  "So you're annoyed Cluxton didn't get another award! Fair enough I don't think anyone would have complained too much had he won it. The argument about Clarke being dropped for the final is irrelevant as that was more a reflection on management than Clarke himself, as events subsequently proved. Keegans award was given to him by his fellow players who obviously felt his displays all year warranted the award. Again if Fenton got it there would have been few complaints but arguing that Keegan was an undeserving winner because he was harshly black carded in the final, is somewhat petty. Bernard Brogan won his award in 2010 without even playing in the final. Did you complain that it was undeserved? The rest of the post doesn't make any sense."
It's a complete joke. how dublin didn't win all 15 all stars is baffling. The dublin defence was that good that cluxton was so bored in the semi final and decided to give kerry 2 goals and 3 points himself just so he would have something to do....still deserves an all star though....also how did Lee keegan get poty? He only out scored his direct opponent from play in the quarter final semi and final (over the 2 legs)...and 2 of them opponents got all stars and the other one is probably the best footballer to grace the field in the last 15 years...but other than that he did nothing to deserve poty....probably should have been cluxton.

jj72 (Kildare) - Posts: 53 - 05/11/2016 01:17:27    1931732

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Replying To TheFlaker:  "Listen man, you are so biased it isn't even funny. It isn't their opinion , it is the abusive way the express it. You banging on about the Tyrone game. Keegan was class all year, get over it. I wouldn't have minded Fenton getting it. If he did I wouldn't be typing bull on pages as if it were some outrage. Keegan winning it is not a surprise, unless you are blind or biased."
Completely agree with all your points.
Lee Keegan is by far the best defender in the country, consistently giving his utmost.
Anyone who can't see that must have some kind of problem or other and should get it looked into for their own good.
To say that Lee was responsible for Sean Cavanagh being sent off must surely be a joke.
Is not every person/player responsible for their own actions? The only one I can see who could be held responsible is Sean Cavanagh himself!!

GormlaighG (Mayo) - Posts: 77 - 05/11/2016 03:40:31    1931736

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Replying To hill16no1man:  "It's not the fact he didn't win the all ireland final its the fact he done nothing much all year with mayo to deserve it.
he done nothing in the league, was again annonymous in connacht and targetted Sean cavanagh in the quarter finals and got him sent off, had decent game against tipp, lucky not to be shown line in drawn final and eventually got what was coming in the replay when got the line.
if the reason cluxton didn't win one was because he had 10 minutes of a bad spell in a game where he found 19 out of 22 kickouts, you can hardly justify why Keegan got player of year, don't remember any standout performances from him. Seems like the hurling one were callanan didn't get it that players voted for personal reasons not what happened on pitch"
You could be right in regards to Callanan,hill.I'd say some players wouldn't give it to a Tipp man for personnel reasons.1-4 in a Munster final where Gleeson was woeful and taken off and one of the greatest forward displays ever in an All Ire final and they give it to a lad that had 6 wides v Tipp,7 v Wexford and didnt even reach the All Ire final!Daylight robbery!

cuederocket (Dublin) - Posts: 5084 - 05/11/2016 09:05:36    1931758

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Replying To GeniusGerry:  "So geaney doesn't deserve an all star because Kerry lost the league final (a game he missed through injury), and because he was taken off in the semi (a Factor he had no control over). Just out of interest, would you have ahead of him?

And to those saying cluxton was robbed and deserved a poty nomination, come on! He damn near cost his team their place in the final the one time during the season he was pressured on his kickouts. He has it easy 99% of the time as teams don't push up but when they do there is always a mistake in him. Comerford and Clarke both ahead of him for me."
For me yes mate, he played against one division one team this year mate and got hooked. Geaney had a very good year but i would personally would have given it to CIllian O' Connor or Kevin Mc. That said i would have given an All Star to Enright over Philly McMahon, there are few in there based on media profile and relevance rather then performances this year.

But its just opinion of course. Comerford would have been my goalkeeper of choice.

TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4445 - 05/11/2016 09:24:44    1931765

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Replying To hill16no1man:  "How is it biased to point out what people from neutral counties are saying????"
People? Most people? You think that the majority of people are outraged? Get a grip. It's only an award and it was a toss up between Keegan and Fenton. The players voted for Keegan. But what would the players know?

TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 7907 - 05/11/2016 09:47:55    1931772

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Replying To TheUsername:  "For me yes mate, he played against one division one team this year mate and got hooked. Geaney had a very good year but i would personally would have given it to CIllian O' Connor or Kevin Mc. That said i would have given an All Star to Enright over Philly McMahon, there are few in there based on media profile and relevance rather then performances this year.

But its just opinion of course. Comerford would have been my goalkeeper of choice."
I appreciate where you coming from but I actually think that Geaney possibly put in the best out and out inside forward display I seen all year against Dublin. He was taken off. A decision that his manager later admitted was a mistake. Kevin Mac was hard done by but Geaney for me is among the best inside forward in the country and there aren't many.
You are a fair contributor on here and it's refreshing to see. The fact you questioned Philly Macs inclusion is good to see. Great player but I wouldn't have him in the All Stars this year. Could say the same for Colm Boyle. Look you could question every player s inclusion but one genuine strange exclusion for me is Paddy Durcan

Weary (None) - Posts: 249 - 05/11/2016 10:14:47    1931778

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