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Replying To IrishGael3: "No disrespect man but Donnelly would walk onto any county in midfield bar none - his selection a no brainer tbh." I totally agree with you. As I already said Donnelly is a quality player and if there was such a thing as a tranfer market he would be very close to being top of my list for players to sign. My point was I think he was fortunate to make this years selection and it was probably a toss of a coin between him and Acheson and maybe Brennan too. If the all stars was just picking the best 15 player in Ireland I've no doubt Donnelly would make that team but it's based on performances and because of the unlucky black card in the Ulster final I think he's got the rub of the green to get selected. Mobot (Donegal) - Posts: 459 - 04/11/2016 10:10:01 1931429 Link
Not sure how many All Stars Mayo players have won over the past 10 years or so but it is probably between 20 and 30. This is an unreal amount given the number of All Ireland medals that they have won. They are almost guaranteed a provincial final place every year, provided they dont draw Galway and then they head for Dublin all guns blazing only to get beat every single time. There is always an excuse that hides the one inescapable fact that they just aint good enough. A couple of decent players performing heroically in Croke Park usually hides their obvious deficiencies and they draw solace from these performances and the inevitable haul of All Star awards. If they had to play in either the Ulster or Leinster championships the number of All Star awards that they would possess could be counted on one hand. For this reason alone, the current system of selection is not only flawed but broken. The National League should be given more weight in the selection procedures but this would only mean that Dublin would in all fairness pick up 10 or maybe 12 each year. barker (USA) - Posts: 55 - 04/11/2016 10:55:02 1931444 Link
Replying To icehonesty: "One of my biggest complaints with this team is the selection of Philip McMahon. Did not have a great year by any means. I thought players like Davy Byrne, John Small and Patrick Durcan had far better years and should have been selected. Also, while Boyle and Keegan were good, I thought their teammate Durcan was the best of the Mayo half-backs this year. At midfield Brennan is very unlucky in my opinion. Cluxton is unlucky not to get the goalkeeper position. Overall though, the All Stars are a silly part of the GAA year and in modern football where the same teams get the last 4 every summer, there is nothing really in it for anyone else. Quinlivan is the first player picked outside of Dublin, Mayo, Kerry, Tyrone, Donegal, Monaghan and Cork since Michael Foley of Kildare in 2011." I agree with you and add that nobody wins an All-Star-it is given out by a few 'experts'!! Tipp had Menton were the two best mid-fielders I saw this year. If you took the ALL Stars seriously you would think that their are 25+ teams in the country with no good player. browncows (Meath) - Posts: 2342 - 04/11/2016 11:02:37 1931448 Link
Replying To cavanman47: "Agree re Cooper, but in what year would you haven Connolly POTY?" 2014 he was by far the best player in the country. Gave the best individual performance in a all ireland club final I have seen. Even the donegal match he was excellent. Connolly was outstanding throughout that year. jacktheDub (Dublin) - Posts: 944 - 04/11/2016 11:46:12 1931461 Link
Cluxton Harrison Cooper McMahon Keegan O Sullivan Durkan Fenton Parsons McLoughlin Connolly Kilkenny Geaney Quinlavan Rock That should be that all star team it's mine anyway and seen as I'm right more than anyone else on here that's the team. clondalkindub (Dublin) - Posts: 9926 - 04/11/2016 12:03:33 1931467 Link
Replying To jacktheDub: "2014 he was by far the best player in the country. Gave the best individual performance in a all ireland club final I have seen. Even the donegal match he was excellent. Connolly was outstanding throughout that year." He was good in that Donegal game, but he probably missed the chance that changed the game. Even taking a point would probably have been enough to help Dublin pull away into an unassailable lead. And James O'Donoghue had an unbelievable year (even prompted Martin McHugh to make that ridiculous statement about Gooch!) - don't recall many eyebrows raised at the time when JOD got it. cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 5017 - 04/11/2016 12:12:07 1931474 Link
Replying To cavanman47: "He was good in that Donegal game, but he probably missed the chance that changed the game. Even taking a point would probably have been enough to help Dublin pull away into an unassailable lead. And James O'Donoghue had an unbelievable year (even prompted Martin McHugh to make that ridiculous statement about Gooch!) - don't recall many eyebrows raised at the time when JOD got it." This is the thing with these awards it is meant to be POTY not player of a couple of games JOD didn't play in the league didn't score in the final Connolly was excellent all year. If Dublin had have got to the final that year he would have been a shoe in. In my opinion he deserved it as I feel he had a better year than JOD. jacktheDub (Dublin) - Posts: 944 - 04/11/2016 12:32:30 1931482 Link
Replying To clondalkindub: "Cluxton Harrison Cooper McMahon Keegan O Sullivan Durkan Fenton Parsons McLoughlin Connolly Kilkenny Geaney Quinlavan Rock That should be that all star team it's mine anyway and seen as I'm right more than anyone else on here that's the team." 1 Comerford 2 Harrison 3 Cooper 4 McMahon 5 McCarthy 6 Boyle 7 Keegan 8 Acheson 9 Fenton 10 Harte 11 Connolly 12 Kilkenny 13 McManaman 14 Quinlivan 15 Rock Dublin - 8 Mayo - 3 Tipp - 3 Tyrone - 1. cuederocket (Dublin) - Posts: 5084 - 04/11/2016 12:37:09 1931484 Link
Replying To Mobot: "I totally agree with you. As I already said Donnelly is a quality player and if there was such a thing as a tranfer market he would be very close to being top of my list for players to sign. My point was I think he was fortunate to make this years selection and it was probably a toss of a coin between him and Acheson and maybe Brennan too. If the all stars was just picking the best 15 player in Ireland I've no doubt Donnelly would make that team but it's based on performances and because of the unlucky black card in the Ulster final I think he's got the rub of the green to get selected." Yes good point but the problem is that the weaker counties who never get anywhere near the business end of the championship who have a player who plays a blinder for 2-3 games against all star grade players will never get recognised. Donnelly has been excellent all year - took his club to Tyrone championship - won evertything in county jersey bar the big one - got sent off unfairly in Ulster final and played quarters against Mayo clearly still suffering from the concussion he had in a club game the week before. All stars for me represents the best players no matter how their county does and he certainly is one of the best for me. IrishGael3 (USA) - Posts: 1092 - 04/11/2016 12:47:37 1931488 Link
Replying To jacktheDub: "This is the thing with these awards it is meant to be POTY not player of a couple of games JOD didn't play in the league didn't score in the final Connolly was excellent all year. If Dublin had have got to the final that year he would have been a shoe in. In my opinion he deserved it as I feel he had a better year than JOD." oh fair enough, but it's never really considered league performance (not recently anyway) and NEVER considers club performance - which seeing as the GPA co-sponsor them is understandable. I'm not the only one on here who has said that Johnny Cooper has been the most consistent player in the country in 2016. But I still agree with the 3 players nominated. It's just the way it is. More people watch the championship (and thus the latter stages), more go to games, counties take it more seriously, more pressure, more at stake, etc. cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 5017 - 04/11/2016 13:10:42 1931502 Link
Replying To jacktheDub: "2014 he was by far the best player in the country. Gave the best individual performance in a all ireland club final I have seen. Even the donegal match he was excellent. Connolly was outstanding throughout that year." I'd have to agree with you in relation to 2014. Connolly was unstoppable that year and I don't remember him getting involved in too much off the ball nonsense either and when he doesn't that always helps his game. I remember a point he scored in the 2nd half against Donegal that was just sensational. He ran through 4 or 5 donegal players who all tried to foul him but he kept on going and landed a great score while almost falling over. It was applauded by both set of supporters where I was sitting that day. JOD also had a very good season but I thought Connolly was POTY. Players that don't play in the final very rarely get nominated never mind win it although Bernard Brogan did in 2010. I remember being disappointed that Karl Lacey didn't get at least nominated for POTY in 2011 as I thought he was the standout player that year. Mobot (Donegal) - Posts: 459 - 04/11/2016 13:43:03 1931512 Link
How was Diarmuid O'Connor nominated for Young Player of the Year ? He's a class act but was miles from last years form. Is it purely down to the U21 win? GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7364 - 04/11/2016 14:13:57 1931535 Link
Replying To jacktheDub: "This is the thing with these awards it is meant to be POTY not player of a couple of games JOD didn't play in the league didn't score in the final Connolly was excellent all year. If Dublin had have got to the final that year he would have been a shoe in. In my opinion he deserved it as I feel he had a better year than JOD." You're wrong jack. JOD did play in the league in 2014 a was deadly he scored 3:03 against Tyrone in Killarney he also scored was it 12 points against cork below in PUC in the Munster final plus was it 3:09 against mayo in the semis. So in my opinion JOD was worthy player of the year in 2014. Connolly scores a few screamers every seasons which makes people thinks he's better than he really is but he misses quite a lot too. KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 04/11/2016 14:24:06 1931540 Link
Replying To GreenandRed: "How was Diarmuid O'Connor nominated for Young Player of the Year ? He's a class act but was miles from last years form. Is it purely down to the U21 win?" In fairness there is not too many u21 players starting for the top teams in senior championship so I'd say that why O'Connor will win award. Gael85 (Dublin) - Posts: 1433 - 04/11/2016 14:59:49 1931551 Link
Replying To GeniusGerry: "So geaney doesn't deserve an all star because Kerry lost the league final (a game he missed through injury), and because he was taken off in the semi (a Factor he had no control over). Just out of interest, would you have ahead of him? And to those saying cluxton was robbed and deserved a poty nomination, come on! He damn near cost his team their place in the final the one time during the season he was pressured on his kickouts. He has it easy 99% of the time as teams don't push up but when they do there is always a mistake in him. Comerford and Clarke both ahead of him for me." Is Conor McManus not a better player than P Geaney? I'd have McManus down as first named on any forward line , he is and has been the best forward in Ireland this last few years SamOnErrigal (Donegal) - Posts: 1427 - 04/11/2016 15:13:02 1931555 Link
Replying To SamOnErrigal: "Is Conor McManus not a better player than P Geaney? I'd have McManus down as first named on any forward line , he is and has been the best forward in Ireland this last few years" But its not who is the best player it's who performed best throughout the year of 2016 in them positions hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 04/11/2016 15:22:36 1931563 Link
Replying To JayP: "If Cian O'Sullivan or John Small didn't lose a game all year, and couldn't get in. That's GAA'ism if I've ever seen it. Peter Hartes a half back, and an excellent one at that. Peter Harte wouldn't touch Kevin McManaman at half forward. Just square pegs in round holes that. To leave out Kevin Mc on one poorish game is crazy. And to leave out a player who has been excellent all year and MOTM in the drawn final in bonkers. Leaving out Cian O'Sullivan is madness. Mayos half back line should look good, they deployed two sweepers all year to help the half back line. But they lost 4 league games and 2 championship games. Look, someone's always gonna miss out, but no at halfback and Kevin Mc not in the half forward line is mad. Sorry Donegal lads, but if Peter Harte gets in he gets in ahead of McHugh. And Small or O'Sullivan get in at half back in place of one Mayo boy. Cluxtons omission is just a dig at the Dubs. We all know he's the best Keeper in modern history. But it can be justified on the Kerry game. I'm not sure what Clarke done to get in ahead of Cluxton. Like if you call making a couple of howlers and then kicking every ball after excellent in a winning performance......well then he had an awful year!!!" But the good thing is both R mcHugh and P Hart are in and deservedly so But to me all some lads have to do is star in the All Ireland final and you are All Star. They should have a scoring system for players ( 6out of ten,9out of10 etc) for every game they play , league included , it still might not be fair but for players giving big performances early in the season and not featuring in the last few rounds of the championship would still have a chance of an All Star. I go back to 2012 when Donegal won a good few all stars , let's face it they beat the best that year , we did not play Dublin so they were the only top team we missed playing. Compare that to the run Kerry had to the semi finals and indeed Mayo to the final( Tyrone being the only notable team they played)this year --- way way easier than Donegal in 2012 And you can be sure that when you get to the semi final/Final you will get an All Star SamOnErrigal (Donegal) - Posts: 1427 - 04/11/2016 15:30:46 1931565 Link
Replying To clondalkindub: "Cluxton Harrison Cooper McMahon Keegan O Sullivan Durkan Fenton Parsons McLoughlin Connolly Kilkenny Geaney Quinlavan Rock That should be that all star team it's mine anyway and seen as I'm right more than anyone else on here that's the team." My selection would be: Clarke Harrison Cooper Durkan Keegan O'Sullivan Donnelly Parsons Fenton Kilkenny Connolly Harte Geaney Quinlivan McManus POY Keegan neverright (Roscommon) - Posts: 1648 - 04/11/2016 16:57:27 1931593 Link
If Diarmuid Oconnor gets young player of the year after being destroyed by jimmy feehan I'll do a father jack and fire something through the telly! tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 04/11/2016 17:13:17 1931599 Link
Replying To cuederocket: "1 Comerford 2 Harrison 3 Cooper 4 McMahon 5 McCarthy 6 Boyle 7 Keegan 8 Acheson 9 Fenton 10 Harte 11 Connolly 12 Kilkenny 13 McManaman 14 Quinlivan 15 Rock Dublin - 8 Mayo - 3 Tipp - 3 Tyrone - 1." Almost spot on. Def have Mchugh before Keegan though. Mattie Donnelly is an exceptional player too. tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 04/11/2016 17:42:00 1931606 Link