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Replying To hill16no1man: "simpke answer yes
long winded answer maybe its not the clubs or the strength and conditioning coaches that decide in them sports what time teams do their warm ups , just maybe its the association who actualy dictate like every other aspect of them sports as to the match day scheaduale, maybe it has something to do with getting the people into the ground for a certain time, who knows but its not rocket science if you do a warm up you are preparing yourself for a match situation so if you ask any of them players you can bet your last euro they will all say of course we would rather go straight into a match than go back into the dressing room and let the body cool down again as when they finish their warm ups they are ready to play thats the point of it." They're professional sports, where countless hours of preparation are spent on the training field looking to eek out the tiniest of competitive edges. They are not going to waste all that prep by not following best practices on match day. It's pretty bonkers to think otherwise!
Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts: 4240 - 30/10/2016 16:45:35
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Replying To Whammo86: "They're professional sports, where countless hours of preparation are spent on the training field looking to eek out the tiniest of competitive edges. They are not going to waste all that prep by not following best practices on match day. It's pretty bonkers to think otherwise!" Again no actual reason being thrown just there professional they can't be wrong.
think of it logically I keep saying to people here.
you do the warm up for a reason to be at match readiness ok, so do you honestly think going back into a dressing room sitting down listening to management talk and then coming back out 15-30 mins later depending on the sport is ideal? Or would you not think having that warm up done in the 15-20 minutes before the match which gets your body at the level needed to start the match and then going and playing is utilising the benifits far better.
hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 30/10/2016 18:31:39
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Replying To ormondbannerman: "simpke answer yes
long winded answer maybe its not the clubs or the strength and conditioning coaches that decide in them sports what time teams do their warm ups , just maybe its the association who actualy dictate like every other aspect of them sports as to the match day scheaduale, maybe it has something to do with getting the people into the ground for a certain time, who knows but its not rocket science if you do a warm up you are preparing yourself for a match situation so if you ask any of them players you can bet your last euro they will all say of course we would rather go straight into a match than go back into the dressing room and let the body cool down again as when they finish their warm ups they are ready to play thats the point of it.
hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts:11251 - 30/10/2016 12:35:48 Your incorrect and the players dont go straight in to dressing rooms and cool down/lose out on benefits of a warm up. The adrenaline is in and mindset is going and its fine and the rugby set up works as if it didnt it would have changed. The players bodies dont cool down in the dressing rooms. They will in many cases be doing a drill of some kind in a dressing room or hitting a tackle bag in rugby case.
And a situation where you go into a dressing room and come out is much better than walking a parade and the like that is done in GAA" They parade very rarely but I agree it's not ideal for preparations, in fact most management set ups will tell you all ireland final day is the worst game preparation they have all year as they first come out far too early compared to games all year and have the warm up finished leaving far too big a gap between the warm up and when the formalities of meeting president, shaking hands parading and the anthem are completed.
90% of gaa games in a season are done leaving players ready to go after the warm up.
hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 30/10/2016 18:37:19
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Replying To ormondbannerman: "simpke answer yes
long winded answer maybe its not the clubs or the strength and conditioning coaches that decide in them sports what time teams do their warm ups , just maybe its the association who actualy dictate like every other aspect of them sports as to the match day scheaduale, maybe it has something to do with getting the people into the ground for a certain time, who knows but its not rocket science if you do a warm up you are preparing yourself for a match situation so if you ask any of them players you can bet your last euro they will all say of course we would rather go straight into a match than go back into the dressing room and let the body cool down again as when they finish their warm ups they are ready to play thats the point of it.
hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts:11251 - 30/10/2016 12:35:48 Your incorrect and the players dont go straight in to dressing rooms and cool down/lose out on benefits of a warm up. The adrenaline is in and mindset is going and its fine and the rugby set up works as if it didnt it would have changed. The players bodies dont cool down in the dressing rooms. They will in many cases be doing a drill of some kind in a dressing room or hitting a tackle bag in rugby case.
And a situation where you go into a dressing room and come out is much better than walking a parade and the like that is done in GAA" Haha is that you on the aldi add
Manic aggresion Paul oh pauly my hero hahahaha
hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 30/10/2016 18:39:52
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Replying To Whammo86: "They're professional sports, where countless hours of preparation are spent on the training field looking to eek out the tiniest of competitive edges. They are not going to waste all that prep by not following best practices on match day. It's pretty bonkers to think otherwise!"
Again no actual reason being thrown just there professional they can't be wrong.
think of it logically I keep saying to people here.
hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts:11254 - 30/10/2016 18:31:39 1930241
I am thinking of it logically. You, a poster on HS, saying that the whole world of professional soccer has got it all wrong with their pre-match warm up routines. Have you tried contacting, lets say, the FAI, FIFA, Manchester Utd. or Liverpool to point out the error or their ways. I'm sure they'd be hugely grateful.
Cockney_Cat (UK) - Posts: 2478 - 30/10/2016 19:28:10
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Replying To Cockney_Cat: "Replying To Whammo86: "They're professional sports, where countless hours of preparation are spent on the training field looking to eek out the tiniest of competitive edges. They are not going to waste all that prep by not following best practices on match day. It's pretty bonkers to think otherwise!"
Again no actual reason being thrown just there professional they can't be wrong.
think of it logically I keep saying to people here.
hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts:11254 - 30/10/2016 18:31:39 1930241
I am thinking of it logically. You, a poster on HS, saying that the whole world of professional soccer has got it all wrong with their pre-match warm up routines. Have you tried contacting, lets say, the FAI, FIFA, Manchester Utd. or Liverpool to point out the error or their ways. I'm sure they'd be hugely grateful." Haha why would I contact them?
I have no interest in their performance!
We all learn the same thing when completing courses so I fail to see why you feel whether it be a soccer s and c, a rugby s and c or an inter county gaa s and c or myself as a s and c have any difference In the knowledge we have attained by studying the same principals.
you do realise the inter county coaches are professionals the same as the premier league guys so I don't see why it keeps been thrown about soccer and rugby being professional it's not the players who run the warm ups.
hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 30/10/2016 20:04:11
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Take the x factor as a big buisness
the competition actually rewards the runner up and restricts the winner.
as the winner is tied into a contract and cannot release a single for a year, whereas the runner up gets the same tour contract deal but has the ability to release a single.
But sure I'm only a hs poster I couldn't be right where as that's a huge show and they are professionals they have to be right.
hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 30/10/2016 20:25:49
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He might be on to something, when do you see a sub come straight from the bench before being introduced in any sport? They always have them dong sprints etc before they come on. When rugby players are sinbinned in games they jump on the bike to keep themselves warm. I have no idea either way but it does seem a bit strange to step back into the changing room after warming yourself up.
gotmilk (Fermanagh) - Posts: 4971 - 30/10/2016 20:32:57
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you do realise the inter county coaches are professionals the same as the premier league guys so I don't see why it keeps been thrown about soccer and rugby being professional it's not the players who run the warm ups.
hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts:11256 - 30/10/2016 20:04:11 1930271
Do you realise that in any job or profession in life, that the cream tends to rise to the top. Comparing GAA coaches (no offense lads) who advise amateur, part time sports men; to coaches working full time with top professional soccer clubs is ridiculous.
How much do you earn compared the top coach at Manchester Utd? With him/her doing their job wrong, according to you.
Cockney_Cat (UK) - Posts: 2478 - 30/10/2016 21:31:47
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Replying To hill16no1man: " Replying To Cockney_Cat: "Replying To Whammo86: "They're professional sports, where countless hours of preparation are spent on the training field looking to eek out the tiniest of competitive edges. They are not going to waste all that prep by not following best practices on match day. It's pretty bonkers to think otherwise!"
Again no actual reason being thrown just there professional they can't be wrong.
think of it logically I keep saying to people here.
hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts:11254 - 30/10/2016 18:31:39 1930241
I am thinking of it logically. You, a poster on HS, saying that the whole world of professional soccer has got it all wrong with their pre-match warm up routines. Have you tried contacting, lets say, the FAI, FIFA, Manchester Utd. or Liverpool to point out the error or their ways. I'm sure they'd be hugely grateful." Haha why would I contact them? I have no interest in their performance! We all learn the same thing when completing courses so I fail to see why you feel whether it be a soccer s and c, a rugby s and c or an inter county gaa s and c or myself as a s and c have any difference In the knowledge we have attained by studying the same principals. you do realise the inter county coaches are professionals the same as the premier league guys so I don't see why it keeps been thrown about soccer and rugby being professional it's not the players who run the warm ups."
alano12 (Dublin) - Posts: 2208 - 31/10/2016 02:26:35
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Replying To Cockney_Cat: "you do realise the inter county coaches are professionals the same as the premier league guys so I don't see why it keeps been thrown about soccer and rugby being professional it's not the players who run the warm ups.
hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts:11256 - 30/10/2016 20:04:11 1930271
Do you realise that in any job or profession in life, that the cream tends to rise to the top. Comparing GAA coaches (no offense lads) who advise amateur, part time sports men; to coaches working full time with top professional soccer clubs is ridiculous.
How much do you earn compared the top coach at Manchester Utd? With him/her doing their job wrong, according to you." so none of us should even question joe brolly or pat spilanne as they get paid the big money for their opinions on a game,
of course there right the cream rises to the top by your way of thinking.
hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 31/10/2016 08:12:54
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Replying To alano12: " Replying To hill16no1man: "[quote=Cockney_Cat: "Replying To Whammo86: "They're professional sports, where countless hours of preparation are spent on the training field looking to eek out the tiniest of competitive edges. They are not going to waste all that prep by not following best practices on match day. It's pretty bonkers to think otherwise!"
Again no actual reason being thrown just there professional they can't be wrong.
think of it logically I keep saying to people here.
hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts:11254 - 30/10/2016 18:31:39 1930241
I am thinking of it logically. You, a poster on HS, saying that the whole world of professional soccer has got it all wrong with their pre-match warm up routines. Have you tried contacting, lets say, the FAI, FIFA, Manchester Utd. or Liverpool to point out the error or their ways. I'm sure they'd be hugely grateful." Haha why would I contact them? I have no interest in their performance! We all learn the same thing when completing courses so I fail to see why you feel whether it be a soccer s and c, a rugby s and c or an inter county gaa s and c or myself as a s and c have any difference In the knowledge we have attained by studying the same principals. you do realise the inter county coaches are professionals the same as the premier league guys so I don't see why it keeps been thrown about soccer and rugby being professional it's not the players who run the warm ups."
Gleebo (Mayo) - Posts: 2208 - 31/10/2016 15:52:09
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He might be on to something, when do you see a sub come straight from the bench before being introduced in any sport? They always have them dong sprints etc before they come on. When rugby players are sinbinned in games they jump on the bike to keep themselves warm. I have no idea either way but it does seem a bit strange to step back into the changing room after warming yourself up.
gotmilk (Fermanagh) - Posts:3673 - 30/10/2016 20:32:57 It isn't that strange at all and considering its the done thing in countless sports across the world and there isn't issues then I don't see how people here arguing against it are correct.
And while some players do jump on a stationary bike if in the bin but more often than not they are sitting on a bench/plastic seat for 10 minutes....
ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 31/10/2016 16:28:57
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Replying To ormondbannerman: "He might be on to something, when do you see a sub come straight from the bench before being introduced in any sport? They always have them dong sprints etc before they come on. When rugby players are sinbinned in games they jump on the bike to keep themselves warm. I have no idea either way but it does seem a bit strange to step back into the changing room after warming yourself up.
gotmilk (Fermanagh) - Posts:3673 - 30/10/2016 20:32:57 It isn't that strange at all and considering its the done thing in countless sports across the world and there isn't issues then I don't see how people here arguing against it are correct.
And while some players do jump on a stationary bike if in the bin but more often than not they are sitting on a bench/plastic seat for 10 minutes...." So which do you think is more prepared to return to action after the 10minutes in the bin? The guy on stationary bike or one day on chair?
hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 31/10/2016 17:10:57
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Static stretching was the done thing by all the pro sports for a long time until they were finally shown the error of there ways and confirmed to dynamic stretching pre game. I'm sure people had the discussions like us of course they are right with static stretching there paid huge money its pro they can't be wrong, but lone behold they were and boom they changed there method of stretching
hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 31/10/2016 17:14:59
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Replying To Gleebo: " Replying To alano12: "[quote=hill16no1man: "[quote=Cockney_Cat: "Replying To Whammo86: "They're professional sports, where countless hours of preparation are spent on the training field looking to eek out the tiniest of competitive edges. They are not going to waste all that prep by not following best practices on match day. It's pretty bonkers to think otherwise!"
Again no actual reason being thrown just there professional they can't be wrong.
think of it logically I keep saying to people here.
hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts:11254 - 30/10/2016 18:31:39 1930241
I am thinking of it logically. You, a poster on HS, saying that the whole world of professional soccer has got it all wrong with their pre-match warm up routines. Have you tried contacting, lets say, the FAI, FIFA, Manchester Utd. or Liverpool to point out the error or their ways. I'm sure they'd be hugely grateful." Haha why would I contact them? I have no interest in their performance! We all learn the same thing when completing courses so I fail to see why you feel whether it be a soccer s and c, a rugby s and c or an inter county gaa s and c or myself as a s and c have any difference In the knowledge we have attained by studying the same principals. you do realise the inter county coaches are professionals the same as the premier league guys so I don't see why it keeps been thrown about soccer and rugby being professional it's not the players who run the warm ups."
alano12 (Dublin) - Posts: 2208 - 31/10/2016 17:25:36
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Replying To hill16no1man: "Static stretching was the done thing by all the pro sports for a long time until they were finally shown the error of there ways and confirmed to dynamic stretching pre game. I'm sure people had the discussions like us of course they are right with static stretching there paid huge money its pro they can't be wrong, but lone behold they were and boom they changed there method of stretching" your argument is poorly thought out..u like taking shots at pro sports yet who are you to criticize them?....you are a poster on an internet forum....have you secured that position at man utd yet? or would that be too good for you?
alano12 (Dublin) - Posts: 2208 - 31/10/2016 17:27:09
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Replying To hill16no1man: "Static stretching was the done thing by all the pro sports for a long time until they were finally shown the error of there ways and confirmed to dynamic stretching pre game. I'm sure people had the discussions like us of course they are right with static stretching there paid huge money its pro they can't be wrong, but lone behold they were and boom they changed there method of stretching" did you get that job at man utd yet or are you still a hs poster?
alano12 (Dublin) - Posts: 2208 - 31/10/2016 17:39:13
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Replying To alano12: "your argument is poorly thought out..u like taking shots at pro sports yet who are you to criticize them?....you are a poster on an internet forum....have you secured that position at man utd yet? or would that be too good for you?" How is it poorly thaught out I have backed up every point with a reason. It's hardly taking shots at something it is pointing out facts about them sports, you don t have to agree with me that's what forums are about kido we can all have our own opinions so that's who I am to air mine it's just a pity you seem so closed off as to look beyond the fact there classes as pro and big money.
as for your poor jibes at man utd haha I have no interest in them I love living in dublin I wouldn't want to live in England hope that clears that up for you.
now if you would like to debate my points like an adult take off the trick or treat costume and lets do this.
hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 31/10/2016 19:03:37
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Replying To alano12: "did you get that job at man utd yet or are you still a hs poster?" Again I never applied for ajob there
Don't see where your coming from
must been a poor nights trick or treating
hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 31/10/2016 19:05:26
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