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Typical shambolic umpiring decisions , it's too big an occasion to be getting these calls wrong, It never ceases to amaze me. Bon (Kildare) - Posts: 1916 - 26/09/2016 10:46:31 1919149 Link 1 |
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Jaysus you would think after the Leinster Final in 2010 that the GAA would get their act together. You cannot blame Cork because after all it was the umpire who got it wrong. I know how the Dubs ladies are feeling. OLLIE (Louth) - Posts: 12224 - 26/09/2016 11:12:50 1919169 Link 1 |
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Fair enough Royal. Glad to hear that this topic isn't being discussed at a Dublin or any county level. Crazy that we have technology available and choose not to use it, resulting in legitimate scores not being given,
poguemahone (Dublin) - Posts: 365 - 26/09/2016 11:40:35 1919186 Link 0 |
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Very silly post which is ignorant of the reality of what happened . The LGFA which administers ladies Gaelic football is an independent, autonomous body which operates outside of the auspices of The GAA. They and they alone made the decision not to have Hawkeye in operation for their three finals . It is The LGFA who should be embarrassed this morning not Croke Patk and certainly not The GAA .
Greengrass (Louth) - Posts: 6031 - 26/09/2016 12:03:20 1919199 Link 1 |
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The LGFA don't have the use of hawkeye in their rules, whereas it had to be passed passed at congress for the Mens codes. JuniorbAllstar (Donegal) - Posts: 9 - 26/09/2016 12:24:32 1919206 Link 0 |
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Yeah you know me very well. I'd be one of the first people on here saying what's done is done, decision made...not the right one ..but heck life is unfair sometimes and football and hurling and sport in general often reflects this..
PoolSturgeon (Galway) - Posts: 1907 - 26/09/2016 12:30:49 1919209 Link 0 |
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Just a couple of items. LGFA Central Council voted not to use Hawkeye because of cost alone - no other reason. Croke park is rented to LGFA for their finals and they did not wish to play the high fee for Hawkeye as it was too dear. The Referee was too arrogant to even go to his umpires to check despite being asked to by 2 Dublin players and management - he was miked up but didn't bother to even consult any of his other officials - referee and the officials knew at half time that it was a point. Too late at that stage. There will be no replay due to the Cork managers emphatic reply that it's our All Ireland but it's a shame that this great Cork team's win is tarnished by incompetence of the referee and his local umpires - these are his own umpires (probably from his local club) who, despite doing the official national umpire courses, got it wrong. Cork and Dublin deserve better ! Hopefully lesson learnt - one definitely seems to have been and that is - even in LGFA ethical morals go out the window when it comes to a win. The match was a draw but will be given as a win. Such a pity after a great year of football and sponsorship that the year will be remembered for one wrong decision.
Puppys01 (Wicklow) - Posts: 95 - 26/09/2016 12:58:35 1919219 Link 2 |
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Why ??? Why should cork offer a replay. I mean the game was played and the result at the end of 60 mins is cork by a point. I mean we have the video evidence of the point going over. But we also have the video evidence of 2/3 frees cork should have been given as well as the penalty they didnt get and the one dublin did get. Do we rewatch the game and assign all these things post match. If Cork knew all this was going to happen they would never have left the dublin player get as far as the square to win the penalty. Dublin will have a crack at it again next year and cork cant keep this level going year in year out. But for now Cork are champions ritchie (Cork) - Posts: 346 - 26/09/2016 13:18:59 1919233 Link 1 |
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Twill be interesting to see if a replay is ordered seeing as Meath-Antrim had to replay the CR final this year due to a ref/umpire cock up. Hawkeye wasn't available that day either, not that it should have made a difference yesterday as on the TV it was clearly a point. I was at the game and thought the ref generally very poor, and at one point in the 1st half, one of the umpires at the Hill 16 end had his back to the play for a good 30 sec's, the ball was down that end as well. moylagh (Meath) - Posts: 484 - 26/09/2016 13:21:50 1919234 Link 1 |
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First of all , this is awful and i really feel for the Dublin players, BUT as a referee you cannot blame the referee as he will go with his umpires - it was a mistake , a monumental mistake.... but it wasn't that it was 20/30 feet in the air it was rather close to the crossbar..... weather conditions must have played a part... cuchulainn35 (Armagh) - Posts: 1676 - 26/09/2016 13:25:31 1919236 Link 0 |
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Silly post, good man you must sit high & mighty in that Ivory Tower. If you read any of my posts yo would see that 1/ I pointed out that yes the LGFA is independent of the Association & 2/ they were to blame also for this fiasco. But let's point out something here, ladies play Gaelic football & play a large role in all Gaa clubs & are generally accepted to be part of the Gaa family. Yet reading many posts here the hatred & vitriol shown you would be forgiven for thinking they were playing "foreign games". The level of hate shown is disgraceful & maybe many of these girls & their parents instead of being involved with their local club would be better off playing soccer, they would certainly get less abuse. Also if they took the Lidl sponsorship that has benefited many clubs this year & took it to soccer, it might make ye happy. Another point is the lip service paid to Ladies football by the Ard Stiurothoir & President is the same as that paid to vlub players, all plamas. The reality is that the ladies seen as Gaa family & members have to hire Croke Park & pay for everything in the same way as other codes, this is blatantly wrong & with all the money made they couldn't gift Hawkeye for the occasion. It proves one point Croke Park is all about money. No problems shelling out 10% of commercial revenue to the GPA though. Many club people are leaving in droves over issues such as club fixtures, payment to managers, on & off field violence of a very serious nature that is usually swept under the carpet & this is another that will drive girls & parents to other codes. That will probably please people like yourself, I hope ye will be all happy together. It's ironic how many posters were so adamant & outraged (rightly so) after the Meath v Louth Leinster final, you do remember that don't you, lots of posts to reference here still in that subject. The Gaa rent out the Stadium & have come out of this badly, regardless. Ironically enough as someone who has brought numerous teams to Croke Park for games & to the museum, Gaa members pay the same price as tourists, no discount for Gaa members even in groups. I raised this with Croke Park that surely Gaa members should get some concession but it was like trying to talk to the wall, it's all about money. Waste of time being involved in or even debating with people as its full of myopic people who can't see beyond their own nose & what would benefit the whole Gaa family.
moc.dna (Galway) - Posts: 1212 - 26/09/2016 13:37:37 1919243 Link 0 |
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Frees and penos are open to interpretation. Video of a clear point is fact. Maybe Dublin would have built on a 3 point lead. Maybe they wouldn't. Nobody knows. The fact is however both teams scored the same but Cork won. Game over.
Jackeen (Dublin) - Posts: 4097 - 26/09/2016 13:51:07 1919251 Link 0 |
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would cork not be confident they would win a replay?whatever about a dodgy free/line ball/45/etc,a point is a point and i cannot believe a team who have won 6 in a row would want an all-ireland in those circumstances! perfect10 (Wexford) - Posts: 3929 - 26/09/2016 14:13:56 1919264 Link 2 |
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We could have done with u out there Jackeen!
cuederocket (Dublin) - Posts: 5084 - 26/09/2016 14:15:11 1919267 Link 0 |
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You're the one who can't see past your own nose . You made a statement that was my incorrect and you were called on it . Deal with it . Your latest rant is in a similar vein . It's silly nonsense .
Greengrass (Louth) - Posts: 6031 - 26/09/2016 14:15:28 1919268 Link 0 |
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There is the specific issue of why hawkeye was not used and the general situation between the GAA and the LGFA. It would be a complete over simplification of the situation to say the latter resulted in the former but the reality is there is some element of truth to it. Neither side in the GAA v LGFA debate are without fault, there are a lot of men in the GAA who would rather put a knife into a Gaelic football than have women use it to play with and on the other side this independence thing ends up in pathetic situations at the club and national level. The Camogie and GPA have shown that there is room for independence within the GAA structures. Look outside of Ireland where people realise that getting on together for the benefit of the game works, its only in Ireland that people need to grow up and get some sense.
zinny (Wexford) - Posts: 1806 - 26/09/2016 16:26:10 1919336 Link 1 |
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That's a separate issue. I don't know any men in The GAA who are opposed to ladies football . I know plenty who work in girls and ladies football. In relation to Hawkeye not operating in Croke Park yesterday that was a decision made by The LGFA and no one else . That is where responsibility for yesterday's controversy lies and not with Croke Park or The GAA .
Greengrass (Louth) - Posts: 6031 - 26/09/2016 16:52:50 1919353 Link 1 |
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I would cost is a large part of the reason Hawkeye was not used. The lgfa have a massively different budget to the gaa. The reason the are weary about going into the gaa is the are worried as been treated poorly by it.
ros1 (Roscommon) - Posts: 1211 - 26/09/2016 17:49:32 1919388 Link 1 |
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Excellent post
ros1 (Roscommon) - Posts: 1211 - 26/09/2016 17:53:37 1919391 Link 1 |
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It is true to say there are alot of men in the gaa involved in lgfa I have been myself but there is also alot of bitterness directed at the lgfa by men in the gaa even thou some of their family members might be lgfa.
ros1 (Roscommon) - Posts: 1211 - 26/09/2016 18:04:02 1919396 Link 1 |