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7 minutes extra time?

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Replying To Llaw_Gyffes:  "How is it always so one sided with the Dubs, Connolly and now Brogan. It's always an excuse when Connolly fouls, as in pulling someone to the ground he must have had a reason. Of course he had a reason, Keegan had gotten ahead of him and he didn't want him to get the ball. That was enough of a reason. As for Keegan not being on the field, if the rules were applied correctly Keegan would have gotten a yellow and Connolly a red. When O Shea went to complain to the umpire all he got was abuse from the hill. I just spoke about Connolly and Keegan because that was the topic under discussion. I didn't reference Boyle and Connolly or Coopers kick on O Connor or Fenton pulling down McLoughlin off the ball in the 74th minute or why O Connor was holding his face after an incident with Philly, and don't get me started on Dillon, because they weren't relevant to the particular topic. I love the emotive 'the Mayo boys were slapping and punching them' and not a word about Philly and the lads. As for the video refs I would be careful what I wished for as Cooper, Philly and one or two others on your side wouldn't thank you."
And those were incidents after the ball was thrown in. Let's not even talk about reasons why O'Shea and O'Connor shouldn't even have started the match. Let's not mention O'Shea remonstrating with the umpire while when Philly did the same against Kerry he got a yellow. Let's not mention O'Shea's 6 consecutive fouls without caution or O'Connor's clothesline on Byrne? You know we could produce examples all day long but it's in the past. Oct 1st is where it's at now.

Joxer (Dublin) - Posts: 4700 - 22/09/2016 21:20:37    1918143

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Replying To Joxer:  "And those were incidents after the ball was thrown in. Let's not even talk about reasons why O'Shea and O'Connor shouldn't even have started the match. Let's not mention O'Shea remonstrating with the umpire while when Philly did the same against Kerry he got a yellow. Let's not mention O'Shea's 6 consecutive fouls without caution or O'Connor's clothesline on Byrne? You know we could produce examples all day long but it's in the past. Oct 1st is where it's at now."
Most of the incidents are there to be seen apart from the tunnel incident which is speculation. I'm not pointing fingers at anyone in particular, I'm just trying to figure out how booking Lee Keegan early on in the replay, as suggested by a panelist, is going to be a cure for all ills.

Llaw_Gyffes (Mayo) - Posts: 1113 - 22/09/2016 22:08:13    1918173

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Because the referee usually has to stop the game to allow the players on and off the pitch for a substitution, but yet the clock rolls on. Having said that I wouldn't be against using a timer as in ladies' football, which would do away with the controversy at the end of games and would also let officials concentrate on their jobs without the distraction of timekeeping."]I was all for the hooter thingy myself until a couple of weeks ago. I was watching a ladies intermediate match on telly. I can't remember the teams but one team were a point up with thirty seconds left when the other team got a forty five. As the ball was being placed for the kick a winning team member kicked it away. The lineswoman was standing beside the spot but took no action as the clock ticked on. The kick was eventually taken and was caught by a forward who shot just as the hooter went. I think the ball went over the bar but I'm not sure as the camera didn't follow it's flight. There didn't seem to be any facility for allowing time to be added on so I just wonder what action was open to the officials as that little piece of gameswomanship decided the game.
Llaw_Gyffes (Mayo) - Posts:527 - 20/09/2016 23:36:11
The referee having to stop game to allow a sub doesn't mean there necessarily has to be time added. Maybe a stop clock should be added but simply just letting subs on when the ball is dead and not adding a specific time for each sub would be fine.

We love comparing our game to other sports without even thinking if the structure of the games are different. Rugby is completely different and leads itself easier to having the ref tell the timekeeper when to stop the game. If managers knew the watch would be stopped there would be far more tactical stopping of the game than there is now - break the momentum of the other team up, slow down the game etc. When the stop the clock in Rugby for an injury they have to wait until the play is back on their feet or off the field - imagine how long the injury breaks in the GAA would be! I think the system works well now - players and managers don't know how much time will be played right up until the last couple of minutes so it cuts out gamesmanship in close games - once the notice goes up everyone knows how much time is left and they generally stick to that time.
zinny (Wexford) - Posts:301 - 21/09/2016 16:08:22
Rugby is different but its as easy in gaelic for ref to tell time keeper to stop the game. They are micced up and can talk to other officials just like in rugby. You can break the momentum in rugby as much or more than you could in gaelic as well. Players would/could change in a different system. The system doesn't work well now. There wouldn't be as many complaints as there is if the system was working well.

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 23/09/2016 11:00:40    1918275

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