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You'd have to be sick in the head to drop Connelly after one averagely poor game .
GameOfTyrones (Tyrone) - Posts: 469 - 19/09/2016 20:57:44 1916608 Link 0 |
Agree. A lot of people, including our Donegal friend here, seem to be rating Dublin on one game all of a sudden. Now all of a sudden they wouldn't live with the Kerry team of the 70s or 80s. Nonsense talk. Look at the trophy cabinet of this Dublin team and the unbeaten run they are on right now. They are an exceptional side. The more people start writing them off due to an off day for their forwards yesterday the happier us Dubs become. Dropping Connolly? You are joking. He completely nullified Keegan yesterday and his work rate was superb. Arguably the best moments of skill in the game were his superb right footed pass to Rock for goal 2 and his left footed point from the sideline. Dublin hit about 13 wides yesterday from play and missed 4 kickable frees. Their forwards were very sloppy when distributing. I don't see this happening the next day. However this is an excellent Mayo team and definitely capable of beating Dublin but they will need a lot to go their way I feel, Dublin to be off colour again, O'Shea to play and perhaps a couple of goals. It will be interesting and if the weather is better the quality should improve.
Joxer (Dublin) - Posts: 4700 - 19/09/2016 21:10:33 1916621 Link 0 |
James McCarthy was a huge loss to Dublin when black carded yesterday.He's an outstanding player and I'd expect him to have a stormer in the replay.Both teams will learn from yesterday but the history of replays is that they normally favour the favourites. endgame (Roscommon) - Posts: 2166 - 19/09/2016 21:15:53 1916629 Link 0 |
No doubting his ability & both feet, yes the pass to Rock who set up the assist for Boyle to score ! & his point from play in the last few minutes. But contrast that with trying to pull the ball off Kilkenny & going for a score that is less than 20% chance on a wet day, 1min 50sec the wise play was to play a possession ball, it gave Mayo possession from which the won 19 out of 24 knockouts & went down the field & scored, did it cost the game ? Also I know he is targeted by teams but his reactions are rash & usually lead him to being punished, this affects the team. Any of Connolly, MDMA, Flynn, Brogan, Rock & my favourite player Mc Manamon could be dropped as none of them played to their potential. All the subs bar O Gara played well when introduced. A couple of things on the day, Dublins attack was too slow, static & too many lateral plays, no direct running or penetration, free kicks kicked from the ground on a wet day have a lower % of conversion than frees from the hands. The last free Rock kicked was from the hands, great score. The cool & calm approach from the Dub management team is all well & good but sometimes you have to show & direct a bit of passion to drive it on, Dublin need a change of personnel, attitude & tactics to win.
moc.dna (Galway) - Posts: 1212 - 19/09/2016 21:19:09 1916632 Link 0 |
No I was suggesting dropping Connolly not sure who this Connelly fella is. Sure anyone that's on here are all sick in the head, I thought that was well known, cuckoo. In all seriousness Connolly is a talented player but he had a poor enough game & possibly cost them the game with that sideline ball. He would be a great impact sub with something to prove when he would come on.
moc.dna (Galway) - Posts: 1212 - 19/09/2016 21:27:09 1916640 Link 0 |
AOS will not be dropped. He needs more support up front though. I am usually critical of Jason Doherty but he impressed yesterday but must keep that up. Something clearly wrong with Diarmuid O Connor..not himself at all. yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11232 - 19/09/2016 21:39:18 1916653 Link 0 |
Whatever the justification for dropping Brogan there is no way you could drop Connolly, if Deegan would give Keegan an early yellow card the next day it would cut out the messing he does with Connolly, he is the instigator, what the hell is Connolly supposed to do? of course he's going to try and get free and play his game, this crack goes on all the time, Michael Murphy has to put up with same rubbish from Mc Mahon when we play Tyrone. TirChonaillabu2 (Donegal) - Posts: 344 - 19/09/2016 21:43:11 1916657 Link 1 |
My opinion is that Mayo played out of their skin and in a large part account for Dublin's poor performance. witnof (Dublin) - Posts: 1604 - 20/09/2016 07:12:12 1916721 Link 0 |
Mayo need aiden Oshea to step up and make a difference. If they get him playing his best out the field not at fw they have a chance. dave1988 (Roscommon) - Posts: 1057 - 20/09/2016 11:10:38 1916807 Link 0 |
Watched it back a couple of times. We laboured badly. 3 very tough games now will take their toll. We've lost our appeitite it seems. Mayo should take this by a couple of points I reckon. We went 29m without scoring which has to be a huge cause for concern. Joxer (Dublin) - Posts: 4700 - 20/09/2016 11:24:49 1916822 Link 0 |
3 tough games? you'd want to try getting out of Ulster, times 3 tough games will only get you as far as the Ulster final, no wonder Ulster teams are half wrecked by the time they get to Croker.
TirChonaillabu2 (Donegal) - Posts: 344 - 20/09/2016 11:39:01 1916828 Link 0 |
Dropping AOS and Connolly, I don't think that would be wise. I would have thought Seamie O'Shea, Paul Flynn & Bernard Brogan would be the most vulnerable players to getting dropped on both sides, none of these players have played to their usual standard this year. Dropping Flynn might not be easy as a replacement like Andrews or Mannion wouldn't track back as well as Flynn. It would be a big call to drop Bernard as he has come up trumps in previous years. I thought AOS did ok last Sunday, not a great game from him but he still contributed. Green_Gold (Donegal) - Posts: 1874 - 20/09/2016 11:43:54 1916832 Link 0 |
Same name, different spelling . Actually the Connelly spelling is far more common than Connolly so apologies as most I know with that name spell it the former . But he had one bad game ? One 4 out of 10 game and 20 good games before that .You can't drop one of the best in the game because a few little errors or a day where half the team had a little breakdown. He's a leader ,not starting him would just be a waste when he could be doing what he usually does ( its not like he can't last a full game), which is usually leading the battle and winning the game for Dublin. Brogan is the obvious target to drop not ConnOly . He hasn't performed at all this year and there is very little debating that . GameOfTyrones (Tyrone) - Posts: 469 - 20/09/2016 11:58:01 1916838 Link 0 |
I thought Dublin looked jaded the last day too, I think Gavin has to freshen things up. There's every chance that October 1st will be as wet as last Sunday. I'd start with Bastick and Fenton i lar na pairce, put Connolly in full forward, drop Brogan and put Mannion in at 11. That would leave Mayo with the choice of leaving Keegan in their full back line or letting someone else mind Connolly. Mickmick (Dublin) - Posts: 104 - 20/09/2016 11:59:42 1916839 Link 0 |
Mayo were poor guys... o Sheas, O Connors in particular.. It was a backs game and they were the only guys who won their battles.
unclegerry (Mayo) - Posts: 1222 - 20/09/2016 12:00:18 1916841 Link 0 |
Haha yeah , throw in a replay on top of that one and teams are fit to drop come croker , our AI final was with mayo in the quarter . Easier to pick up injuries too in them tight gritty Ulster games
GameOfTyrones (Tyrone) - Posts: 469 - 20/09/2016 12:02:30 1916843 Link 0 |
I'd be putting Andrews on before Mannion.
CroiGorm (Dublin) - Posts: 1547 - 20/09/2016 12:13:10 1916849 Link 0 |
In the last three years, Mayo have drew with Kerry and Dublin twice. I thought the analysis after Sunday was geared towards Dublin underperforming. I disagree, I thought Mayo outperformed them. The defensive part of there game was top class for the most part. Tactically Mayo got it right and as a result Dublin were not allowed to have runners coming through from all angles. Dublin got two very lucky goals and benefited from a bit of Mayo madness when level.. Mayo gifted three points in a row around the 60th minute. Dublin will not get the lucky goals again, and if Mayo can get a better performance from O'Shea and continue the defensive gamplan, I can see Sam going West. sam1884 (UK) - Posts: 999 - 20/09/2016 12:22:53 1916859 Link 0 |
If Mayo are to win they will have to make better use of possession wfkerry (USA) - Posts: 933 - 20/09/2016 12:49:38 1916871 Link 2 |
Well Sam you're right Dublin got two fortunate goals. However if you look at the second, if Boyle didn't touch that ball Rock would have buried it. I think Dublin will be happy with the chances they created, 3 one on ones with Clarke, 13 wides, 4 easy frees missed. For all the talk of Mayo playing great defesively, and I think they did, they coughed up some amount of chances. Conditions played a huge part. But I think Mayo may have enough in the tank next day, Dublin was their first Div 1 opponent this year and Dublin had two tough games heading into this one. The legs ate drained. Sure we're happy enough to have another chance and with any luck we'll still be in the game with 10 to go.
Joxer (Dublin) - Posts: 4700 - 20/09/2016 12:52:21 1916873 Link 0 |