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Well we go again! How do people see it going? CroiGorm (Dublin) - Posts: 1547 - 19/09/2016 08:38:47 1916006 Link 0 |
Depends, if Gavin drops brogan, McCauley, brings in Andrews etc, Dublin should prevail, but will they improve by 6/7 points, ? And if mayo can maybe improve as well it will make for a interesting game.
royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 19/09/2016 09:20:49 1916024 Link 0 |
Well sure we get another couple weeks as AI champs! All credit to Mayo, I think they handed the conditions better and I fully expected their best performance of the year before the game Also a defensive system is far easier to implement with a very wet ball and very slippery under foot There is no doubt that they implemented a 2012 Donegal style game plan Rock missed the sort of frees he's been popping over for fun and for me EOG should have come on much sooner But they still couldn't beat us, and in fact Dublin were 9 seconds away from a back to back! Why Connolly didn't just pick out a short pass from the side line, Kilkenny was right not to want to give him the ball but the more senior player won out, someone should have come short, maintain possession and pop a few hand passes over head or draw a foul. We were in control of the ball and Mayo didn't look like scoring until we handed it back to them and we were out of position then on their quick kick out But listen a draw was the fair result when all the factors are put into place and considered For me, Mayo have possibly shown their hand now and I'd expect a better Dublin performance Mayo will find it hard to replicate the effort they put into the first game IMO and the conditions may not be as favourable for defensive football The only way is up for Dublin, James McCarthy going off was a huge factor and he'll be back in there now again I'd feel confident that Dublin can do it jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20601 - 19/09/2016 09:34:20 1916034 Link 0 |
Dubs will improve a lot from yesterday and do enough to win a close game IMO. They'll be a couple of Dubs looking over their shoulder at the bench and Gavin would be well within his rights to shake things up. Flynn and Brogan in particular are being picked on reputation at this stage. They have two weeks to devise a winning strategy for the replay and I think Gavin will do just that. GeniusGerry (Kerry) - Posts: 2105 - 19/09/2016 09:37:44 1916038 Link 0 |
I think Gavin should make changes, Paul Richieq (Meath) - Posts: 3734 - 19/09/2016 09:40:14 1916042 Link 0 |
I actually think the Dubs improved after Mccarthy went off. Kilkenny going to the half back line really improved the dubs. His best performance came when he played in the half back line against Donegal and I think he should play there in the replay. I've said it in another thread that Brogan wasn't having a good year and after yesterday a number seem to be agreeing with me. gotmilk (Fermanagh) - Posts: 4971 - 19/09/2016 10:00:03 1916054 Link 0 |
I'm not so sure about the 'Dublin won't play that bad again' reason for them winning the replay. Superglue (Kerry) - Posts: 1283 - 19/09/2016 10:07:58 1916059 Link 0 |
Our forwards need to improve massively. Aidan needs to stop shooting from silly positions. He was poor yesterday but he still distracted the Dubs defence and created space for others. Diarmuid O'Connor was poor by his standards. Evan Regan is a goal threat, should have been on earlier. Can't understand why they brought on Barry and didn't use his height advantage around the square. I'll be surprised if the same 15 start on Saturday week. GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7376 - 19/09/2016 10:08:16 1916060 Link 0 |
Really can't see it being any other way but tight but replays can often take a life of their own. Both teams have room for improvement which has the most is debatable. Dublin were poor yesterday but that has to be attributed to Mayo who defensively were strong. A couple of big calls for Gavin, who does he start alongside Fenton, what is the make up of the half forward line as Flynn and this kills me to say is struggling and similarly the inside forward line could potentially see change with Bernard really not meriting a start on yesterday's performance. Mayo have a few things to look at, again Aidan O' Shea is still an enigma and where to position him is still difficult to know. Is lee keegan's game being restricted due to the man marking job he is doing on connolly? I think Dublin need to move the ball with more pace and possibly go with a target man inside, they played at a pedestrian speed at times yesterday with lateral hand passing and at times a lack of responsibility which is unlike them. This is the second final that the forward line hasn't produced so that really needs to be looked at. It was a really surreal feeling leaving yesterday to have led by 3 at the 70 minute and to feel absolutely 100% relieve to have got a draw. I hope Dublin can get over the line but would not be confident. Their younger players are leading by example and possibly it is a team that could be slightly on the downward curve. 6 years at the top is a long time so it would be great to see them going back to back but then again mayo have 65 years of pain to drive them on. Adamski (Dublin) - Posts: 339 - 19/09/2016 10:09:24 1916062 Link 0 |
It meant that Andrew came on alright and he'll start next day But we badly missed McCarthy is the 2nd half and especially when the game was there to be won His leadership, his positioning, his offensive side... he was hugely missed jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20601 - 19/09/2016 10:11:04 1916065 Link 0 |
Not sure what happened to Dillon but after scoring one of the points of the game, it must be worrying for Mayo fans to see him limp off like that soon after jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20601 - 19/09/2016 10:14:03 1916068 Link 0 |
James McCarthy was a huge impact - as on came Paddy Andrews and brought the only bit of potency to the Dublin attack. I'd have been happier if McCarthy stayed on. BlastCalyle (Mayo) - Posts: 206 - 19/09/2016 10:17:27 1916073 Link 0 |
The thing is, the Dublin players will be just as bullish if not more. The will be embarrassed with that performance yesterday and they'll all want to prove themselves the next day out. Just like Mayo.
CroiGorm (Dublin) - Posts: 1547 - 19/09/2016 10:17:44 1916074 Link 0 |
Mayo were in a perfect position going into the final jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20601 - 19/09/2016 10:19:39 1916075 Link 0 |
Yep! Sorry to say it but BB is having a poor year by his high standards.Flynn also not as dynamic in recent times. Dubh_linn (Dublin) - Posts: 2312 - 19/09/2016 10:20:26 1916076 Link 0 |
They do for the hurling replays so you'd imagine they will this time around. Think stand tickets drop to €50.
CroiGorm (Dublin) - Posts: 1547 - 19/09/2016 10:26:56 1916080 Link 0 |
Question for Dublin fans. If Connolly had scored a point from that sideline and we'd won, would you have been celebrating as wildly as you would if we'd hammered them or would your celebrations have been more muted based on the way we'd have won it? CroiGorm (Dublin) - Posts: 1547 - 19/09/2016 10:30:35 1916086 Link 0 |
Most of Dublin's experienced players let them down.But I would be shocked if they are not a different animal the next day.Andrews has to start and I would drop MDM. ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 19/09/2016 10:39:40 1916091 Link 0 |
People saying that Brogan is being picked on reputation, Dean Rock is being picked because hes a free taker. If one of them is to be dropped, it has to be Rock and let Brogan take the frees, he can kick them off left or right and is a real goal threat. Joe_Bloggs (Tipperary) - Posts: 186 - 19/09/2016 10:41:02 1916094 Link 0 |
The Question is, will Mayo be 3/1 for the replay? GetOverTheBar (Tyrone) - Posts: 1388 - 19/09/2016 10:41:04 1916095 Link 0 |