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James Horan

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Replying To Toothless:  "What did James Horan win as a manager? 5 connaughts? London got to a conn final, shows you how competitive that province has been"
........almost as competitive as Leinster

liner (Mayo) - Posts: 756 - 11/09/2016 14:45:45    1912748

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Replying To browncows:  "You don not have to win All-Irelands to be good footballer or indeed to know what makes you successful. It is much easier to play on a good team than on a very poor one."
Correct, even Ray Silke has a couple of All Irelands

liner (Mayo) - Posts: 756 - 11/09/2016 14:48:06    1912749

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If Harte is not to be with Tyrone no longer , Horan could do something enteresting with them .

oakleafersir (Derry) - Posts: 808 - 11/09/2016 16:51:04    1912774

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Replying To liner:  "........almost as competitive as Leinster"
More so, if you compare the number of teams winning Connacht to Leinster over the past decade.

Gleebo (Mayo) - Posts: 2208 - 13/09/2016 08:14:04    1913382

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Replying To oakleafersir:  "If Harte is not to be with Tyrone no longer , Horan could do something enteresting with them ."
He didn't do much interesting with mayo did he?

Awwwwnow (Cavan) - Posts: 1050 - 13/09/2016 11:15:02    1913486

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Replying To Awwwwnow:  "He didn't do much interesting with mayo did he?"
Is this an actual genuine comment from a person who follows Gaelic Football?

the_walls (Mayo) - Posts: 495 - 13/09/2016 12:33:18    1913535

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state the obvious was on again: http://www.hoganstand.com/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=260927

"Mayo need to bring as much intensity and aggression as they can get out of themselves," Horan wrote HAHAHA come on, can he not offer a better insight than that

Toothless (Dublin) - Posts: 38 - 15/09/2016 12:45:41    1914589

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Replying To the_walls:  "Is this an actual genuine comment from a person who follows Gaelic Football?"
best ignored I'm afraid.

He's on the Cavan board making outlandish claims that, when interrogated, are well off the mark.

cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 5016 - 15/09/2016 13:29:06    1914607

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Replying To Toothless:  "state the obvious was on again: http://www.hoganstand.com/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=260927

"Mayo need to bring as much intensity and aggression as they can get out of themselves," Horan wrote HAHAHA come on, can he not offer a better insight than that"
He can offer far better insights but chooses not to. These lads are like politicians and won't say anything that can be used against them. Alan Brogan writes things like Bernard has been a great player over the last ten years, Diarmuid is one of the most skilful of all time and Jim is a great manager. Controversial or what! James is still close to a lot of the players and will probably become manager again when the dust settles. The broader picture and all that....

Llaw_Gyffes (Mayo) - Posts: 1113 - 15/09/2016 15:25:31    1914669

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Replying To Llaw_Gyffes:  "He can offer far better insights but chooses not to. These lads are like politicians and won't say anything that can be used against them. Alan Brogan writes things like Bernard has been a great player over the last ten years, Diarmuid is one of the most skilful of all time and Jim is a great manager. Controversial or what! James is still close to a lot of the players and will probably become manager again when the dust settles. The broader picture and all that...."
Then what is the point of reading them if they are going to be so constrained. It's pointless. The quality of writing on GAA football is hopless as far as I can see.

avonali (Dublin) - Posts: 1974 - 15/09/2016 15:57:01    1914692

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Replying To Llaw_Gyffes:  "He can offer far better insights but chooses not to. These lads are like politicians and won't say anything that can be used against them. Alan Brogan writes things like Bernard has been a great player over the last ten years, Diarmuid is one of the most skilful of all time and Jim is a great manager. Controversial or what! James is still close to a lot of the players and will probably become manager again when the dust settles. The broader picture and all that...."
Yeah I don't think Horan makes any secret of the fact he wants to manage Mayo again.

On top of that, he's obviously a Mayo fan and so doesn't want to write something Jim Gavin can pin up on the wall of the dressing room.


Certain "experts" feel the need to be controversial. I can't remember the last time Pat Spillane actually accurately described what had happened in a match to support his punditry. He just reels off stats about the number of handpasses the losing team made and blames that.

The hurling pundits tend to be better because they (to paraphrase John Giles) take each game on its merits. Whelan and Tomas O'Se aren't bad, but there's few other football pundits who I'd pay much heed to.

In terms of paper articles, Jim McGuinness is probably the most readable. His article on how Mayo should approach this Sunday was a decent read.

cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 5016 - 15/09/2016 16:01:25    1914695

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Replying To Llaw_Gyffes:  "He can offer far better insights but chooses not to. These lads are like politicians and won't say anything that can be used against them. Alan Brogan writes things like Bernard has been a great player over the last ten years, Diarmuid is one of the most skilful of all time and Jim is a great manager. Controversial or what! James is still close to a lot of the players and will probably become manager again when the dust settles. The broader picture and all that...."
maybe he does not have more to offer.. its not like he was great on the side line against in 12 against Donegal

Toothless (Dublin) - Posts: 38 - 16/09/2016 10:52:04    1914990

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poor on the sideline, cost us two all irelands

liner (Mayo) - Posts: 756 - 16/09/2016 10:56:50    1914992

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Replying To liner:  "poor on the sideline, cost us two all irelands"
That's harsh. I don't listen or read his articles as he offers no insight but he did brilliantly with Mayo when in charge.
Fair enough he has made mistakes but the losing manager will always have done something wrong. Even Jim McGuinness made mistakes that cost us an all Ireland.
but...
At the end of the day its the players that lost them games. In 2012 it was the players that missed vital tackles and vital points.
in 2013 it was the players who failed the manager.

In fact the biggest mistake that Moran made was not putting a sweeper back in 2014. They should def have won the All Ireland that year and had the semi won only for he took no action against Donaghy.

How a Mayo man can put him down is beyond me.
What happens if Mayo lose on Sunday? Is Rochford useless too? Thats real Hero or Villian stuff.

dstuction (Donegal) - Posts: 1209 - 16/09/2016 11:20:55    1915012

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Replying To liner:  "poor on the sideline, cost us two all irelands"
you think??

I don't think ye were getting near Donegal in 2012 (nor was any other team)

2013, I think he did enough for that Mayo team to win. They need to look at the 2nd goal they conceded and the "30 seconds left" incident

cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 5016 - 16/09/2016 11:23:48    1915013

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This talk of James Horan costing Mayo All-Irelands always annoys me. Sure, he made a few mistakes in big games, but if it weren't for James Horan Mayo could still be struggling like they were in 2010. If I were James Horan I might feel that some others had cost me All-Ireland titles, both as a player and a manager.

Gleebo (Mayo) - Posts: 2208 - 16/09/2016 12:13:17    1915036

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He had 3 men to mark against Donegal and he still got the match ups wrong.. he took off freeman in the final against the dubs, you was the most prominent forward for mayo in that game up until that change

Toothless (Dublin) - Posts: 38 - 16/09/2016 12:33:19    1915046

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