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It seems from a neutral perspective that Dublin appears to have the "right" to enter the field first and ultimately that allows them to dictate things like where they warm up, the match build up. That is wrong. ______________________ Kerry entered the pitch first against Dublin two weeks ago i think waynoI (Dublin) - Posts: 13650 - 08/09/2016 13:11:47 1911803 Link
Replying To waynoI: "It seems from a neutral perspective that Dublin appears to have the "right" to enter the field first and ultimately that allows them to dictate things like where they warm up, the match build up. That is wrong. ______________________ Kerry entered the pitch first against Dublin two weeks ago i think" yup, they did cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 5016 - 08/09/2016 13:27:17 1911813 Link
Replying To CroiGorm: "We just want to get through the next week or so with the minimum of fuss. Tell that to the person that turned his Ferrari in to a giant Mayo flag or the one that met Ian Rushe off the plane in Knock with a 'Mayo for Sam' t-shirt!" And to the Dublin posters that have spent a year talking about Mayo even before we were due to wet Spoddgy (Mayo) - Posts: 660 - 08/09/2016 13:28:03 1911815 Link
Replying To cavanman47: "eh what? Would An Mhi, An Chiarrai, Aontroim, An Lu, etc. not all be ahead of them alphabetically?" No. waynoI (Dublin) - Posts: 13650 - 08/09/2016 13:33:32 1911823 Link
I dont think too many teams are worried about what dressing room they have and who gets to run out onto the field first. From the quarter finals onwards, the Dubs fans outnumber the rest by 3 to 1. This is wrong. And no its not because the other team dont travel. That is BS. Croke Park is the best stadium for these games. The fact that Dublin are playing in them doesnt mean that the game should be played outside of Dublin. Where do people want them to play when they get to say the semi final or final? The GAA should be more interested in selecting refs who have nothing to do with one of the counties playing. And yes, I am referring to Gough. He is from the same club in Dublin as Kevin McManaman. He should not have been in charge of the Kerry/Dublin game or any Dublin game for that matter. Although I think he had a good game he should not have been the referee for obvious reasons. aidan64 (Kerry) - Posts: 665 - 08/09/2016 13:38:24 1911827 Link
Replying To yew_tree: "Team's are now told which end they have. Whenever Dublin are playing they are allocated the hill 16 end and always given the same dressing room." Not a fan of that favoritism GameOfTyrones (Tyrone) - Posts: 469 - 08/09/2016 13:40:18 1911829 Link
Replying To avonali: "I always maintain that Dublin should never have tried to 'compete' with Mayo and warm up at the Hill end. They should have left them there and gone straight to Canal End. Usually backroom team are out preparing for the warm up a good 20 minutes before the teams. If Mayo manage to establish themselves at Hill End let them off. We have no God given right to warm up there. Think this Dublin team are too focussed about the job at hand to get caught up in that nonsense. If Mayo set up these, don't let that upset our preparations." Ya I remember that , I actually watched it recently on YouTube it's hilarious the way all the dub lads marhed up roman army style ready for war , cringy enough . GameOfTyrones (Tyrone) - Posts: 469 - 08/09/2016 13:44:28 1911834 Link
Replying To waynoI: "It seems from a neutral perspective that Dublin appears to have the "right" to enter the field first and ultimately that allows them to dictate things like where they warm up, the match build up. That is wrong. ______________________ Kerry entered the pitch first against Dublin two weeks ago i think" Entering the field first or second is immaterial. The backroom staff of each team have set up the warm up area half and hour before the teams emerge. avonali (Dublin) - Posts: 1974 - 08/09/2016 13:44:35 1911835 Link
Replying To aidan64: "I dont think too many teams are worried about what dressing room they have and who gets to run out onto the field first. From the quarter finals onwards, the Dubs fans outnumber the rest by 3 to 1. This is wrong. And no its not because the other team dont travel. That is BS. Croke Park is the best stadium for these games. The fact that Dublin are playing in them doesnt mean that the game should be played outside of Dublin. Where do people want them to play when they get to say the semi final or final? The GAA should be more interested in selecting refs who have nothing to do with one of the counties playing. And yes, I am referring to Gough. He is from the same club in Dublin as Kevin McManaman. He should not have been in charge of the Kerry/Dublin game or any Dublin game for that matter. Although I think he had a good game he should not have been the referee for obvious reasons." He is from the same club in Dublin as Kevin McManaman He is not, and never has been a member of St. Judes. CroiGorm (Dublin) - Posts: 1547 - 08/09/2016 14:07:44 1911851 Link
Replying To CroiGorm: "We just want to get through the next week or so with the minimum of fuss. Tell that to the person that turned his Ferrari in to a giant Mayo flag or the one that met Ian Rushe off the plane in Knock with a 'Mayo for Sam' t-shirt!" Ian Rush is barely known by kids nowadays, as much of a Pool great that he was. Dave Grohl on the other hand is a big Mayo supporter. Sure we love going buckape in the run up to a final. This team are well used to it. Time for them to keep us celebrating afterwards. Maigh Eo Abú! GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7360 - 08/09/2016 14:11:20 1911855 Link
Replying To waynoI: "No." How does Aontroim not come first alphabetically? gotmilk (Fermanagh) - Posts: 4971 - 08/09/2016 14:23:18 1911861 Link
Replying To gotmilk: "How does Aontroim not come first alphabetically?" Yes it would so if Dublin play Antrim or Armagh they get the dressing room nearest the hill. Jackeen (Dublin) - Posts: 4097 - 08/09/2016 15:21:56 1911900 Link
Replying To Spoddgy: "And to the Dublin posters that have spent a year talking about Mayo even before we were due to wet" Wet what - the bed (at the prospect of playing us?) Jaden (Dublin) - Posts: 139 - 08/09/2016 15:22:58 1911902 Link
So when we met Dublin in the All Ireland Final (Hurling or Football - doesn't matter which) in the next few years we will get the home dressing room and Hill 16. Now if that's not an incentive for Antrim to get to an AI final...... On a serious note, if it is by alphabetical order then that's a load of balls. Should be drawn out as doing it alphabetically pretty much means that should Dublin make a final they will get the same changing room and end of pitch to head to. Unless it's ourselves or Armagh they are against. Offside_Rule (Antrim) - Posts: 4058 - 08/09/2016 15:59:59 1911919 Link
I would also be open to just giving Croke park to Dublin I would also be open to selling it to Dublin for whatever amount it will cost to build the new stadium - quid pro quo. Offside_Rule (Antrim) - Posts: 4058 - 08/09/2016 16:03:00 1911923 Link
Replying To Jaden: "Wet what - the bed (at the prospect of playing us?)" :) CroiGorm (Dublin) - Posts: 1547 - 08/09/2016 16:44:10 1911957 Link
Replying To Offside_Rule: "So when we met Dublin in the All Ireland Final (Hurling or Football - doesn't matter which) in the next few years we will get the home dressing room and Hill 16. Now if that's not an incentive for Antrim to get to an AI final...... On a serious note, if it is by alphabetical order then that's a load of balls. Should be drawn out as doing it alphabetically pretty much means that should Dublin make a final they will get the same changing room and end of pitch to head to. Unless it's ourselves or Armagh they are against." Last there's more than just Antrim and Armagh before them in Irish alphabetically, Fair enough, for Kerry, Ciarrai or An Ciarrai can both be used and the GAA use just Ciarrai. But Meath for example are and always have been An Mhi. So if they meet in a Leinster semi final or final, by Croke Park/GAA rules they should get the "home" dressing room. They'd still lost btw, i just don't think the alphabetical rule applies/makes sense. cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 5016 - 08/09/2016 17:07:30 1911969 Link
Can I ask in the interests of fairness, that Mayo fans not park in the likes of Maynooth and Leixlip and get the train, in the interests of everyone getting a fair chance to get a seat to Drumcondra they should all get on in Clonsilla at the earliest. TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4445 - 08/09/2016 23:26:50 1912078 Link
Replying To GameOfTyrones: "Not a fan of that favoritism" I agree that Dublin shouldn't be entitled to warm up in front of the hill or have their usual dressing room. But Croke Park is not run by the Dublin county board. It is run by the national body, the GAA. Any county can object to these arrangements in advance of any match if they want. It wouldn't bother me in the slightest. SirStrawHat (Dublin) - Posts: 58 - 09/09/2016 12:35:58 1912216 Link
Replying To TheUsername: "Can I ask in the interests of fairness, that Mayo fans not park in the likes of Maynooth and Leixlip and get the train, in the interests of everyone getting a fair chance to get a seat to Drumcondra they should all get on in Clonsilla at the earliest." Sound. The good Kildare people in the vicinity of Maynooth, Louisa Bridge and Confey stations might think you're discriminating against them if they lose our lucrative passing trade! GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7360 - 09/09/2016 13:38:19 1912240 Link