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9 Dubs forwards, would any not make the Mayo team?

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Replying To Gleebo: "You've all been had, lads and ladies. How" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://hoganstand.com/Dublin/MessagePage.aspx?TopicID=98307&Latest=1#Latest" How has anyone been "had" exactly? Liam said in the OP that he knew he was gona annoy people. I think the post comparing AOS to EOG is more of a WUM. As well as that - there's not a huge amount incorrect about the OP. cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 5018 - 08/09/2016 13:04:49 1911794 Link
Liam may I congratulate you on an excellent bit of fishing ;) ConnollyDub (Dublin) - Posts: 2007 - 08/09/2016 13:35:33 1911824 Link
Replying To cavanman47: "How has anyone been "had" exactly? Liam said in the OP that he knew he was gona annoy people. I think the post comparing AOS to EOG is more of a WUM. As well as that - there's not a huge amount incorrect about the OP." I would say that getting people hot under the collar is the point of a wind-up, wouldn't you? Irrespective of whether you announce it before or after, hence the "had" comment. Gleebo (Mayo) - Posts: 2208 - 08/09/2016 14:06:54 1911849 Link
Ah thanks lads, thanks lads But, it has to be said, I couldnt have done it without the "help" of a few unsuspecting associates from around the country! Honesty, with some lads tis akin to calling Marty McFly a chicken!!! Mon da DUBS! Liamwalkinstown (Dublin) - Posts: 8166 - 08/09/2016 14:07:09 1911850 Link
Replying To cavanman47: "How has anyone been "had" exactly? Liam said in the OP that he knew he was gona annoy people. I think the post comparing AOS to EOG is more of a WUM. As well as that - there's not a huge amount incorrect about the OP." Your right there Cavanman, my apologies to O'Gara.....................O'Shea is not fit to lace his boots. Sure Aidan is not even the best footballer in his own family!!!!!! witnof (Dublin) - Posts: 1604 - 08/09/2016 14:11:49 1911856 Link
Referring to AOS - He's the type of player you need when everything is going belly up to dig you out. I disagree. when has he ever done it when the pressure is really on. He destroyed Donegal at midfield in 2013 but Donegal were never in that game. He destroyed Sligo in a connaght final but that was all 1 way traffic but when has he don't it against the big teams in a close game. I'm not his biggest fan and one of the main reasons is I feel he goes missing when the pressure is on. Maybe he will lead Mayo to victory in the final and I will happily eat my words but I don't see it happening. I see DOC having a good final. He was just back from injury and the 4 weeks will make a massive difference to him. DOC is the only Mayo forward I would even consider. COC is very good from frees but Dublin don't need that. As another poster said Maybe if AOS was in Dublin he could become a proper midfielder but I wouldn't have him near a forward line considering the players warming the bench in Dublin as is. dstuction (Donegal) - Posts: 1209 - 08/09/2016 14:22:51 1911860 Link
Dean Rock's stats from placed balls in 2015: link Would be interested to see the same done for COC: CroiGorm (Dublin) - Posts: 1547 - 08/09/2016 14:47:19 1911874 Link
I have to say, all joking aside, if AOS was a Dub, it would be MF or nowhere. I wouldnt have him over any of our forwards. Thats not being funny, thats not messing as I admit i was earlier, but christ if you didnt get that...... but in all seriousness, I think he is over rated. Sorry, I do. I think he is the absolute opposite of Michael Murphy. O'Shea is for me a limited player getting the absolute max out of himself, which is hugely commendable. MM is just sheer quality and class and is being abused by manager after manager and we are being robbed as fans of a fella who COULDA/SHOULDA been an all time great. Back to topic, would I have AOS in the Dubs forwards? No. 100%, No Liamwalkinstown (Dublin) - Posts: 8166 - 08/09/2016 15:01:23 1911883 Link
Replying To Liamwalkinstown: "Bernard Brogan the corner forward who kicked 2 from play in a game that was won by 2 was "taken to the cleaners" was he :) :)" He wasn't great though and hasn't been so far this year. Not saying he won't shine in the final but so far he hasn't been great. Superglue (Kerry) - Posts: 1283 - 08/09/2016 15:42:33 1911910 Link
Replying To CroiGorm: "Dean Rock's stats from placed balls in 2015: link Would be interested to see the same done for COC:" They are at 66% http://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/gaa-statistics-the-duel-of-the-dead-ball-specialists-1.2783320 witnof (Dublin) - Posts: 1604 - 08/09/2016 15:48:16 1911914 Link
Replying To witnof: "Your right there Cavanman, my apologies to O'Gara.....................O'Shea is not fit to lace his boots. Sure Aidan is not even the best footballer in his own family!!!!!!" my point proven ;) cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 5018 - 08/09/2016 15:51:50 1911915 Link
Replying To witnof: " Replying To CroiGorm: "Dean Rock's stats from placed balls in 2015: link Would be interested to see the same done for COC:" They are at 66% Wow," target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/gaa-statistics-the-duel-of-the-dead-ball-specialists-1.2783320" Wow, those graphics tell a lot. One shows that, yes, Rock is better this season. But a real stand-out is the amount of kickable frees Dublin have got within say 35m of goal and quite central. Kerry had a gripe about some of these being soft and I noticed some very soft ones in the Meath game too (although I can't even remember if Rock took those that day). While a lot has been made of the AOS "dive" v Fermanagh (I think he dived, but HE WAS FOULED and it was a penalty), far less seems to be said of the soft frees Dublin seem to get. cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 5018 - 08/09/2016 16:01:10 1911921 Link
Replying To Superglue: "He wasn't great though and hasn't been so far this year. Not saying he won't shine in the final but so far he hasn't been great." very true, not having his best year but still wouldnt bet against him in the AIF....Big game player. Has a very good record V Mayo saying he was "taken to the cleaners by Kerry" was absolute rubbish tho SG! Liamwalkinstown (Dublin) - Posts: 8166 - 08/09/2016 16:02:55 1911922 Link
Replying To witnof: " Replying To CroiGorm: "Dean Rock's stats from placed balls in 2015: link Would be interested to see the same done for COC:" They are at 66% Cheers," target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/gaa-statistics-the-duel-of-the-dead-ball-specialists-1.2783320" Cheers, just saw the Rock stats on twitter, hadn't seen the article! CroiGorm (Dublin) - Posts: 1547 - 08/09/2016 16:07:26 1911931 Link
Aidan O'Shea would walk into the Dublin forward line Liamo. He's a quality player. I'd take both O'Connors as well while I'm at it. MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13718 - 08/09/2016 16:11:57 1911934 Link
Replying To Liamwalkinstown: "very true, not having his best year but still wouldnt bet against him in the AIF....Big game player. Has a very good record V Mayo saying he was "taken to the cleaners by Kerry" was absolute rubbish tho SG!" Not as much rubbish as the person who said he's been 'appalling this year' though! CroiGorm (Dublin) - Posts: 1547 - 08/09/2016 16:39:14 1911947 Link
Replying To MesAmis: "Aidan O'Shea would walk into the Dublin forward line Liamo. He's a quality player. I'd take both O'Connors as well while I'm at it." I disagree. But I'd have him in midfield in a heartbeat. 2xO'C, yeah, deffo. Jaden (Dublin) - Posts: 139 - 08/09/2016 16:39:21 1911948 Link
Replying To MesAmis: "Aidan O'Shea would walk into the Dublin forward line Liamo. He's a quality player. I'd take both O'Connors as well while I'm at it." Ah sure you could do that. . Who would you drop tho?? You could drop Kev Mac, Flynn or Kilkenny if you want to go down the footballing route as opposed to the run-all-day athlete route. But then you risk an imbalance. You could drop Connolly as he would only get sent off otherwise. Or Brogan as he hasn't had a good game in about 3 years. So many options!! This is a great thread. cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 5018 - 08/09/2016 16:42:16 1911952 Link
Replying To MesAmis: "Aidan O'Shea would walk into the Dublin forward line Liamo. He's a quality player. I'd take both O'Connors as well while I'm at it." completely disagree Mes Wouldnt have him in the forwards would have him in MF alright but as a forward, with the football we play, nope. not having it. Would of course take both O'Connors, but again, neither would start Liamwalkinstown (Dublin) - Posts: 8166 - 08/09/2016 16:44:04 1911956 Link
Replying To cavanman47: " Replying To witnof: "[quote=CroiGorm: "Dean Rock's stats from placed balls in 2015: link Would be interested to see the same done for COC:" They are at 66% Wow," target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/gaa-statistics-the-duel-of-the-dead-ball-specialists-1.2783320" Wow, those graphics tell a lot. One shows that, yes, Rock is better this season. But a real stand-out is the amount of kickable frees Dublin have got within say 35m of goal and quite central. Kerry had a gripe about some of these being soft and I noticed some very soft ones in the Meath game too (although I can't even remember if Rock took those that day). While a lot has been made of the AOS "dive" v Fermanagh (I think he dived, but HE WAS FOULED and it was a penalty), far less seems to be said of the soft frees Dublin seem to get."]Cavanman if you look at the Kerry gripe it seemed to be about two 'soft' frees at the end. First one was for an off the ball/3rd man tackle. Replies show Brogan clearly been held back from making a dangerous run into the large parallelogram. Enright was lucky he was not black carded to be honest. 2nd was soft in that it was for a touch on the ground. But replies seem to show that was the case. No conclusive proof so you go with the ref. Kerry player didn't argue at all so you presume he was right. As to Meath, they were lucky not to have two given straight reds. Some of the so called soft frees are for pulls and holding players because the pace of the Dubs. Its actually all swings and roundabouts. And stop distracting from the topic in hand....and that is that NO Mayo player would make the Dublin starting forward line! witnof (Dublin) - Posts: 1604 - 08/09/2016 16:48:53 1911959 Link