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Brian Cody and sideline conduct

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Replying To The_Fridge:  "This isn't a who shouts more or curses more between Brian and Davy. The point is that all managers should be treated the same way. I personally don't feel that happens where Brian is concerned."
Surely if one manager is known for using foul and abusive language towards match officials, that should be a mitigating factor in determining whether they receive a sideline ban or not.

ballydalane (Kilkenny) - Posts: 1246 - 07/09/2016 21:44:24    1911546

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Replying To The_Fridge:  "You aren't getting the point. Ok take Davy out off the equation for a second. What about the Colm Collins ban? By all accounts he done very little. Still got banned.....for arguing with officials. You want evidence of Brian shouting and abusing officials. All Ireland final this year. Semi final this year. Galway game last year. 2014 I think with Brian Kelly. Cork game when Henry was sent off. Want me to continue?
And are you very sure it's only 20%? Can you give me evidence?"
You really seem to have a problem Fridge,I have probably been nearer to Brian Cody on the sideline down the years,his behaviour is no worse than most managers and I can honestly tell you I have heard worse from other managers,i am not going to name names but in a match where a KK player was taking a free near the end of the match when the scores were level he was subjected to a level of abuse that I wouldnt and couldnt repeat here,and this abuse came from the opposing management including the manager,I can give many instances of abuse towards KK players,what I can honestly say in all my time watching Kk is that I have never ever heard Brian abuse an opposition player,of course he gets excited if he sees something that he thinks is not right,,you know Fridge at last Sundays match there was a Tipp man in front of me,he was a lovely guy but when a Tipp player was fouled he was on his feet shouting ffs ref even though they were getting the free and he was only 1 of thousands from both Tipp and KK who did the same thing,now if you have trained a team from Jan to Sept wouldnt you if you were a manager want your team to get fair play if you think they are not getting it,if KK had won last Sunday which they most certainly wouldnt have deserved,Tipp were the better team and were worthy winners there probably be a thread on here saying the ref won it for them so I suppose there has to be something to keep the anti KK brigade happy,

mooncat (Kilkenny) - Posts: 534 - 07/09/2016 21:57:22    1911549

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Replying To ballydalane:  "Surely if one manager is known for using foul and abusive language towards match officials, that should be a mitigating factor in determining whether they receive a sideline ban or not."
Go to YouTube.....type in Brian Cody gets angry. Please watch and tell me Brian doesn't use foul and abusive language. I can't seem to link it here.

The_Fridge (Tyrone) - Posts: 2089 - 07/09/2016 21:58:13    1911550

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Replying To therealtmo:  "Big difference between Brian and Davy is Davy goes bananas over every decision giving against them where as Coady only goes mad when it is maybe a hard call and it's not every game unlike Davy. Also Coady is always gracious in defeat where as Davy will blame everyone for being beating. Also heard Coady will never swear or curse at an official where as Davy well let's say we all heard what Davy says."
Your reality is through the selective nature of program producers and hear say

Ban (Westmeath) - Posts: 1421 - 07/09/2016 22:05:08    1911557

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Replying To The_Fridge:  "Go to YouTube.....type in Brian Cody gets angry. Please watch and tell me Brian doesn't use foul and abusive language. I can't seem to link it here."
You've actually typed "Brian Cody gets angry" into youtube?! Are you serious?! Fridge, you've really got a chip on your shoulder about the man.

ballydalane (Kilkenny) - Posts: 1246 - 07/09/2016 23:25:15    1911583

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Coady is gentleman and very gracious in defeat

samiscominghome (Mayo) - Posts: 23 - 08/09/2016 08:51:21    1911611

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Replying To The_Fridge:  "You aren't getting the point. Ok take Davy out off the equation for a second. What about the Colm Collins ban? By all accounts he done very little. Still got banned.....for arguing with officials. You want evidence of Brian shouting and abusing officials. All Ireland final this year. Semi final this year. Galway game last year. 2014 I think with Brian Kelly. Cork game when Henry was sent off. Want me to continue?
And are you very sure it's only 20%? Can you give me evidence?"
So you're taking Davy out of the equation even though your OP was comparing Brian & Davy?? Sounds like you're arguing with yourself now.

Colm Collins' main infringement was physical misconduct I think, not sure if he did much but you can't touch officials according to the rules.

We're going around in circles here & this just seems to be a chip on the shoulder thread, but everybody is entitled to their beliefs I suppose. That's my last input into this discussion.

Lookit (Kilkenny) - Posts: 12 - 08/09/2016 10:47:49    1911678

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Replying To ballydalane:  "You've actually typed "Brian Cody gets angry" into youtube?! Are you serious?! Fridge, you've really got a chip on your shoulder about the man."
I don't know how many times I have to explain to you that I don't have a chip on my shoulder, I never said nasty or mean things about Brian. I have constantly said in my posts I have the utmost respect for him and the Kilkenny team. And I mean that.
You and other posts said provide evidence where other managers were banned for abusing officials, I did. Someone also said that he doesn't use bad language, which clearly he does. Many many threads link clips and photos from the Internet etc.....just check out the goal line Kerry goal vs Dublin. Unfortunately I can't seem to link the clip I'm talking about.
I think I've proven the point I'm making. Hey you disagree.....so be it. I'm sure we can can come back to this next year when hopefully Brian is on the sidelines. Would be great if Tipp and Kilkenny got to the final again.

The_Fridge (Tyrone) - Posts: 2089 - 08/09/2016 10:54:38    1911684

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Replying To The_Fridge:  "I don't know how many times I have to explain to you that I don't have a chip on my shoulder, I never said nasty or mean things about Brian. I have constantly said in my posts I have the utmost respect for him and the Kilkenny team. And I mean that.
You and other posts said provide evidence where other managers were banned for abusing officials, I did. Someone also said that he doesn't use bad language, which clearly he does. Many many threads link clips and photos from the Internet etc.....just check out the goal line Kerry goal vs Dublin. Unfortunately I can't seem to link the clip I'm talking about.
I think I've proven the point I'm making. Hey you disagree.....so be it. I'm sure we can can come back to this next year when hopefully Brian is on the sidelines. Would be great if Tipp and Kilkenny got to the final again."
You've now received replies from several posters, from various counties, that Davy Fitz's sideline conduct is more abusive, sustained and foul-mouthed than anything Cody does, hence why he has received a ban and Cody hasn't. You've also been told that Collins' ban was mitigated by his physically interfering with a match official, something which Cody has never done. You're still not satisfied with these responses. I really don't know what to do for you, except maybe advise you to write a letter to the CCCC asking them to take disciplinary action against Cody for whatever abuses you think he's perpetrated on match officials.

ballydalane (Kilkenny) - Posts: 1246 - 08/09/2016 16:31:43    1911944

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Replying To ballydalane:  "You've now received replies from several posters, from various counties, that Davy Fitz's sideline conduct is more abusive, sustained and foul-mouthed than anything Cody does, hence why he has received a ban and Cody hasn't. You've also been told that Collins' ban was mitigated by his physically interfering with a match official, something which Cody has never done. You're still not satisfied with these responses. I really don't know what to do for you, except maybe advise you to write a letter to the CCCC asking them to take disciplinary action against Cody for whatever abuses you think he's perpetrated on match officials."
And you are unfortunately are looking though rose tainted glasses. I and others have clear examples on Cody abusing officials......it's as clear as day he does it. Just wish you would open your eyes and see I'm not criticising Brian. Just think he should be treated like other managers who do the same thing. Colm Collins and other officials said he did very little.

The_Fridge (Tyrone) - Posts: 2089 - 08/09/2016 19:45:45    1912022

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Replying To Lookit:  "So you're taking Davy out of the equation even though your OP was comparing Brian & Davy?? Sounds like you're arguing with yourself now.

Colm Collins' main infringement was physical misconduct I think, not sure if he did much but you can't touch officials according to the rules.

We're going around in circles here & this just seems to be a chip on the shoulder thread, but everybody is entitled to their beliefs I suppose. That's my last input into this discussion."
Very true and I know that he gives very generously of his time to a variety of worthy causes even when it entails a lot of travel and expense which he never claims. However it is also true that he can lose control of himself on the sideline and become a very intimidating looking individual. I have no idea whether he uses bad language or not or whether he addresses players from the opposing team. Perhaps it is all an act to try to influence officials.

neverright (Roscommon) - Posts: 1648 - 08/09/2016 20:26:35    1912038

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