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Eugene McGee - Is It Just About Stopping Ulster?

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Replying To joncarter:  "Fair enough. You got yourself a deal.
If Ulsterman stops blaming everything and anything on an anti ulster agenda, ill stop calling the Tyrone footballers out on their many, many transgressions."
yeah lets pretend you apply the same logic to every county and treat each case on its merits..very very unlikely

alano12 (Dublin) - Posts: 2208 - 04/09/2016 22:31:55    1910025

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Replying To browncows:  "McGee backs the black card because he was one of the guys who helped to bring the rule in -not sure when he was last involved in coaching the game as I expect it is many many years ago. The more rules you stitch on to our game the more difficult it becomes to referee- maybe we should now have 2 or 3 refs!! How does one know if a foul is intentional unless it is a jersey/person pull. We cannot even get 50's correct. A black card is useless with 5 minutes left in a close match when a pull down is made 15m from goal."
Poor E McGee so out of touch with the modern game...they might have had 50s when he was playing, but just to let you in on a secret - they're 45s now. Don't tell anyone, but it seems we have been using this thing the hipsters call the "metric system" for a while now.

1914 (Clare) - Posts: 92 - 04/09/2016 23:54:53    1910039

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Replying To riverboys:  "Look the black card is a joke, the simplest way to address cynical fouling is this , if a player deliberately pull down an opponent like a tackle that you see in rugby it's a yellow card unless it happens inside the 30 metre line therefore it's a straight red and a match ban no review to the ccc, therefore Sean Cavanagh would have got a straight red for a professional foul inside the 30m line for his drag down of Monaghan player a few years ago, the one where Joe Brolly went on a rant about after the game but a drag down outside the 30 m line is a yellow card. In a final in injury time I would gladly take a red, yellow or black card for the team if it means victory but in a semi final I would think twice of dragging down an opponent if it meant a straight red and missing the final"
Where is this 30m line of which you speak?

1914 (Clare) - Posts: 92 - 04/09/2016 23:57:40    1910040

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Replying To clondalkindub:  "Jaysis Charlie Redmond has some cut at Ulster football in today's Sunday World. His headline was;

Ulster Football in Dark Ages,
sort it out lads!"
After reading Charlie's article. His argument based on comparing last Sunday's classic with the lack of goals in three consecutive Ulster finals. A bit like someone in Ulster claiming that a bucket full of goals scored in both of the Cavan v Tyrone semi final proves its a better championship than all the rest .. very basic journalism.
One wouldn't expect Charlie to have much love for Ulster teams if you look at his record against them
1992 - lost AI final to Donegal
1993 - lost AI semi final to Derry
1993 - lost AI final to Down.
1995 - sent off in AI final victory against Tyrone but decided to play on for 5 minutes more.

Curlew66 (Roscommon) - Posts: 507 - 05/09/2016 01:39:08    1910047

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Replying To SamOnErrigal:  "Must refresh Charlie Redmond's memory.
Not too long ago , well from 2001 until 2012 how many Leinster counties made the All Ireland final? How often did they won Sam I that period? He should know the answers.
Fair enough Ulster counties did not do well this year but who knows what will happen next year.
Also let him not forget this Dublin team won't goon forever. Take the following-- S Cluxton B Brogan P Flynn D Connelly and MD MC Cauley indeed you can add K MC Menamon if and when those lads retire can they find equally as brilliant a young player to replace them?
They will have some job getting similar to Cluxton Brogan and especially D C. I would expect all those Dublin players to be finished with county football in three years time.
I would not say Ulster football is in the dark ages-- Donegal 's defensive set up is the best going but we must change out attacking ideas Tyrone could be better still next year and I don't think there is much between Mayo Kerry Donegal or Tyrone at present. On any given day one could beat the other.
What C Redmond must realise is that over the last 30 years five Ulster counties have won Sam , two in Leinster One in Connaught and two in Munster."
I wouldn't worry about him,seems to have a great arrogance since Dublin came back to the fore.I stopped reading his columns a long while back too..

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 05/09/2016 07:45:46    1910056

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Replying To riverboys:  "Look the black card is a joke, the simplest way to address cynical fouling is this , if a player deliberately pull down an opponent like a tackle that you see in rugby it's a yellow card unless it happens inside the 30 metre line therefore it's a straight red and a match ban no review to the ccc, therefore Sean Cavanagh would have got a straight red for a professional foul inside the 30m line for his drag down of Monaghan player a few years ago, the one where Joe Brolly went on a rant about after the game but a drag down outside the 30 m line is a yellow card. In a final in injury time I would gladly take a red, yellow or black card for the team if it means victory but in a semi final I would think twice of dragging down an opponent if it meant a straight red and missing the final"
You call the red card a joke, but you want to give a red card and no appeal for a foul inside 30 metres. Jeez man....

Loughduff Lad (Cavan) - Posts: 2407 - 05/09/2016 08:43:51    1910069

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Replying To neverright:  "Ulster has 9 counties Liam"
Liam needs to redo his geography exams - 6 counties in Ulster - imagine!!!

IrishGael3 (USA) - Posts: 1092 - 05/09/2016 10:16:20    1910102

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Replying To ROS1:  "The black card is far more damaging to smaller clubs and counties then it is for the likes of dublin and Kerry."
definitely fair point - black card suits the bigger better panels of the bigger counties.

IrishGael3 (USA) - Posts: 1092 - 05/09/2016 10:21:44    1910107

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Dublin are the most physical team out there at the moment and the new rules aren't doing them any harm. The fact that they are also the best footballing team helps a lot. There is no anti Ulster Sentiment in the GAA establishment and even if there was it wouldn't influence the success of Ulster Counties. The best teams will almost always win out. None of the Ulster Counties are currently near the level where Donegal (2012 / 2014), Tyrone (2003 - 2010) or Armagh (early 2000s) were at during the peak of their powers. No minor win since 2010 and only 1 U21 win in the last 15 years would also suggest that Ulster football isn't as strong as it is sometimes perceived.

pdempsey (Mayo) - Posts: 1313 - 05/09/2016 11:06:16    1910136

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