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how many frees did the linesmen call yesterday none they do not call them ,there was a push in the back right in front of Coldrick and he could do nothing about it it is not soccer if there was 2 referees one in each half that would make refereeing a lot easer,a good referee will do as much running as a player
fieldman (USA) - Posts: 4 - 02/10/2016 14:13:51 1921484 Link 0 |
Look,you are only seeing things one way. Mayo got a few handy frees, so I wouldn't be shouting about the ref too much. Dubh_linn (Dublin) - Posts: 2312 - 02/10/2016 14:34:37 1921490 Link 1 |
Firstly well done to Dublin, this defeat is as sore as the 1996 defeat to Meath, Mayo management made 3 big mistakes, changing goalie was daft, you are bringing in a cold player that hasn't played much games for the team this season and starting him into an All Ireland Final. Second mistake was when Lee Keegan was black carded se needed an experienced defender that could tightly mark Connolly, have we that player on the bench? Yes Chris Barrett, the management brought on the wrong player, Coen hasn't enough experience to mark Connolly. Third mistake was constantly kicking high balls into the full forwards, it didn't work in the 2 games in 2015, it didn't work for Kerry this year and didn't work in the drawn game so why would it work in the replay? What we needed was 2 small fast corner forwards that would pull the Dublin backs out towards the corner flags there by creating space in front of goal for the player running through with the ball, you haven't a hope of scoring when you have 6 men standing in front of the goal clogging it up. The biggest mistake was the ref, a lot of people called it in the past week or 2 that he would have a poor game and he had, he failed to make a number of big calls and bottled it when he had the chance, linesmen and umpires were as well off to have gone shopping for the day because they done nothing. The black card has to go, go back to the simple yellow card for a bad tackle or constant fouling and a straight red for a professional foul within the 45 metre lines or 2 yellows. Yesterday was a good day for the GAA money wise, over 4.5 million gathered with ticket sales but a bad day for the officials, the black card and the rules of the game, time for the GAA to sort out proper refs, all we ask for is consistency in decisions riverboys (Mayo) - Posts: 1389 - 02/10/2016 15:05:08 1921502 Link 0 |
Congratulations to Dublin! You are a great team. Kingdomson (Kerry) - Posts: 244 - 02/10/2016 17:43:00 1921543 Link 2 |
Congrats to Dublin, they found the scores a little bit easier in the dying stages and that was the difference. We were working out asses off just to try and get into a scoring position. The officials were poor for both teams so I am not gonna go down that route of blame. The black card is a joke and we know that. The Mayo management will die by the sword for the bizarre decision to start Hennelly. They can try and justify it but the fact is it cost them the game. Clarke was the best keeper in the country for the last couple of months and not one person thought that was a possible change. What might have been but it is what it is. TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 7907 - 02/10/2016 18:12:24 1921553 Link 1 |
Not bitter or sour at all,why would I be? just delighted to see Dublin win the 2 in a row, sick listening to everyone whining on about Mayo anyway, the reality is ye just haven't got the talent up front and have beaten yourselves as well with bizarre management decisions, and it's not just Rochford, why did James Horan put Keane in to try and mark Michael Murphy in 2014? talk about men against boys, that game was over after 15 mins,what a sweet victory. Donegal have a better chance of winning Sam again in our lifetime than Mayo do in my opinion, doesn't seem to matter if ye get to another final, the chance will be wasted again, call it 'the curse' if you want an excuse, truth is Mayo aren't good enough. TirChonaillabu2 (Donegal) - Posts: 344 - 02/10/2016 19:22:28 1921580 Link 1 |
Poor Mayo - the Buffalo Bills of Gaelic Football Adler (Monaghan) - Posts: 754 - 02/10/2016 20:06:07 1921606 Link 4 |
In a lot of ways this is one of the most satisfying all ireland wins Dublin have won in recent years. TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4445 - 02/10/2016 20:17:38 1921610 Link 3 |
2014? What game was that you speak of? At least have your facts straight lad when leaving spiteful posts. Otherwise you just come across as silly.
Equineburger (Mayo) - Posts: 30 - 02/10/2016 20:22:13 1921614 Link 2 |
I thought the refs reading of incidents in the game were very inconsistent e.g. A Dublin back hand-tripped Moran in the first few minutes - clearly intentional as Moray was in on goal, but the ref ignored it. The Mayo keeper made a dreadful mistake which led to the penalty and got black carded even though it was very obvious he was straining every sinew in his body to try to remedy his mistake and knock the ball away. Yet the ref judged that his intent was to bring the player down. (I'm sure Mayo supporters were not too disappointed with this particular black card.) neverright (Roscommon) - Posts: 1648 - 02/10/2016 20:49:51 1921630 Link 1 |
Mayo management team imo cost these players an All Ireland medal. Are they any further on than when they deposed Holmes & Connelly. This was the best opportunity ever for Mayo & Rochford made a monumental error. Changing a keeper for an All Ireland final, not because of injury or playing badly but just for tactical purposes beggars belief. Keepers thrive on confidence so Clarkes must have taken a massive dent which only further heaped the pressure on Hennelly who looked nervous from the start. A goalkeeping change also affects the outfield players as they have to readjust also. A huge error by the manager. Also his substitutions were strange, why didn't teak tough defender Chris Barrett come in for Keegan & what did Evan Regan who was fantastic all year do wrong, he should have been in ahead of Conor O Shea & Alan Dillon who is well past his prime. Another mystery is why when you have a proven score getter like Kevin Mc Loughlin, feared by other teams, play so deep as to be ineffective when Mayo lack score getters. I think tactically they were poor also, Ciaran Kilkenny who threads Dublins attack & has the most possessions was a man to man mark, curb his time on the ball & possession & you ultimately take away how they start their attack. The classic way to beat Dublin is to run at them & the Mayo goal proved this but they didn't attack the central channel enough. Aidan O Shea needs to be running towards goal not away from it coming onto ball. Mayo had two great chances, I believed they could do it but they have come up short & management imo cost them a medal today. Will the players give this management team another shot esp as they imo cost them a medal today, time will tell. moc.dna (Galway) - Posts: 1212 - 02/10/2016 20:50:54 1921631 Link 2 |
I think you're missing a lot of the point there, moc.dna. You're going on about McLoughlin and the lack of attack etc, when many observers might conclude that the most impressive thing about Mayo in those two finals was their defensive solidity, and their capacity to limit Dublin's offensive firepower. McLoughlin's role was integral to that, I'm led to believe. Mayo's attack is a slightly blunt instrument even at full tilt , but when you have to pay extra attention to defensive structures, it obviously becomes an ever increasing struggle to score. I thought the two finals were poor spectacles, with too many frees, too many tackles that were difficult to interpret & administer, too much defensive football, and an almost total absence of quality forward play. Basketball without a shot clock at times. An eyesore. Football is in real trouble imo, from an entertainment viewpoint. The emphasis on defense and possession retention has made the game horrible. Having said that, congrats to both Dublin and Mayo for making the final. Pope_Benedict (Galway) - Posts: 3456 - 03/10/2016 11:36:06 1921801 Link 1 |
I'm inclined to agree with you.Both games were very exciting because of the toughness of the contests and the closeness of the scoring but we mustn't confuse excitement with quality.
Condorman (Dublin) - Posts: 983 - 03/10/2016 12:29:45 1921840 Link 0 |
Its important to look at Mayo approach to the game, last year they came out all guns blazing and tried o outscore Dublin, it didnt work. I don't think they lack good forwards, they are capable of racking up scores and scoring goals with the best of them. TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4445 - 03/10/2016 12:40:47 1921844 Link 1 |
As bitter as the lemon you are sucking on! You have been harping on about Mayo the last few months. We can see you are rebelling in it! I'd be careful what you wish for you may not see donegal win Sam for 66 odd years! I'm sure people in Mayo in 1951 thought they would see Sam again but we know how that had gone haven't we. We will keep going and we will be back and have another tilt at winning Sam!
Spoddgy (Mayo) - Posts: 660 - 03/10/2016 13:10:30 1921860 Link 2 |
Surprised more people aren't talking about his decision to black card Keegan. It was a terrible call. Watching replays yesterday, Connolly looked to have fouled Keegan first and then Keegan tried to regain an advantage but at no stage did he commit a black card offence. The ref initially indicated with his hands that it was a jersey pull and then after Connolly got in his face he seems to have changed his mind and when issuing the black card he indicated with his hands that it was a pull down. A strange decision and a costly one for Mayo.
Steelfixer (USA) - Posts: 41 - 03/10/2016 13:21:52 1921868 Link 1 |
Great calls on MDMA lads :). His first touch was a superb foot pass to Philly. Takes the return and sets up BB for a key point. Then does some fantastic fielding. Then he penetrates the Mayo defence and just as he is getting surrounded , he hits an excellent 'foot' pass to young Costello who gets the decisive score. In both replays , 2015 & 2016, MDMA done a lot of damage to Mayo. So some posters are well off the mark to mock him - all Managers would love a player of his style and directness in their team. poguemahone (Dublin) - Posts: 365 - 03/10/2016 14:25:19 1921908 Link 1 |
I was referring to 2012 as well you know, is that ok mods?
TirChonaillabu2 (Donegal) - Posts: 344 - 03/10/2016 15:34:50 1921955 Link 1 |
As a Dub I'm over the moon, and I want to be magnanimous in victory. But it's made really, really hard when there there's so much cherry-picking going about about refereeing decisions. Mayo didn't lose the final because of the referee. Gavvygavgav (Dublin) - Posts: 383 - 03/10/2016 15:46:07 1921972 Link 1 |
Mayo did not lose because of the referee. Small was lucky to be on the pitch but after getting away with the first offence he was entitled to push the boat out. Cooper black card was by law probably right but a joke in fairness. Keegan one was very frustrating as Connolly actually has a wee tug before Keegan does and then Connolly hits the deck easy and gets up waving an imaginary card. Can you imagine if the roles were reversed and Keegan did it? We would never hear the end of it. Brogan should have been black carded but Deegan bottled that probably because of where the offence took place. Doherty should have walked as well for a late hit after the goal. The law is an ass. The black card as it is just simply does not work. Dublin had game changers on the bench who wreaked havoc in the last quarter, that was the difference. Their scores came a little easier. The frustrating thing for me is we may well have got over the line if it wasn't for the penalty. That 3 point gap killed us in the end. TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 7907 - 03/10/2016 16:17:01 1921996 Link 1 |