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Replying To Ulsterman: "Oh shut up and stop yapping and whinging. I don't need to big anyone up or deliberately talk them down. I call it as I see it and always have done. In the past when Mayo have lost big games it has been down largely to a lack of self belief and the absence of streetwise cuteness to get over the line and I have said so. I don't need to curry any favour with any county or their fans and am not looking for slaps on the back; it's not the way I operate because I don't care who likes or dislikes me and what I say. I have stated all season that I believe Mayo have mentally and physically toughened up and they have gotten results that they may not have done several years back. If they keep this belief they have every chance." Im doing neither, Im just calling it straight. You said mayo were mentally fragile and would lose to tyrone, then afterwards you state the exact opposite as if you were saying it all along. Is that your way of admitting your prediction couldn't have been any more wrong if you tried?
Id doesn't bother me what you think of mayo either way. Your views generally find a way to promote ulster in some way first and foremost, so I place little faith in them. It is the manner you are going about this complete about face which I am underlining - you would need a right old brass neck to do it.
Only in the gaa will you get supporters of teams who couldn't get within an asses roar of the quarter finals in a month of sundays dictating to the teams in the semis about football knowhow. It is the equivalent of Hull City fans telling Chelsea how to win a league.
TheMaster (Mayo) - Posts: 16187 - 16/08/2016 09:44:35
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Replying To TheMaster: "Im doing neither, Im just calling it straight. You said mayo were mentally fragile and would lose to tyrone, then afterwards you state the exact opposite as if you were saying it all along. Is that your way of admitting your prediction couldn't have been any more wrong if you tried?
Id doesn't bother me what you think of mayo either way. Your views generally find a way to promote ulster in some way first and foremost, so I place little faith in them. It is the manner you are going about this complete about face which I am underlining - you would need a right old brass neck to do it.
Only in the gaa will you get supporters of teams who couldn't get within an asses roar of the quarter finals in a month of sundays dictating to the teams in the semis about football knowhow. It is the equivalent of Hull City fans telling Chelsea how to win a league." What an arrogant, condescending post which says a lot about you and your views. If you even bothered to read what I said about the Tyrone/Mayo game I called it 50/50 and it is there in black and white. I said on the form of the two teams you would expect Tyrone to win BUT it was a game they COULD lose also so don't let facts get in the way of your nonsensical ranting. You say that fans of teams who don't get to quarter finals/semi finals etc shouldn't be entitled to an opinion. Does that include the Tipperary fans who haven't competed at this level before? That surely most go down as THE most ridiculous post EVER on this site. Does that also apply to Ireland and the Olympics, Ireland and the Euros/World Cup, Ireland and the Champions League; should Irish people be excluded from expressing opinions on these because Irish sides aren't always at the business end. I am not a Roux trained chef either but I know the food I like and don't like.
Ulsterman (Antrim) - Posts: 9706 - 16/08/2016 22:13:30
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Replying To Ulsterman: "What an arrogant, condescending post which says a lot about you and your views. If you even bothered to read what I said about the Tyrone/Mayo game I called it 50/50 and it is there in black and white. I said on the form of the two teams you would expect Tyrone to win BUT it was a game they COULD lose also so don't let facts get in the way of your nonsensical ranting. You say that fans of teams who don't get to quarter finals/semi finals etc shouldn't be entitled to an opinion. Does that include the Tipperary fans who haven't competed at this level before? That surely most go down as THE most ridiculous post EVER on this site. Does that also apply to Ireland and the Olympics, Ireland and the Euros/World Cup, Ireland and the Champions League; should Irish people be excluded from expressing opinions on these because Irish sides aren't always at the business end. I am not a Roux trained chef either but I know the food I like and don't like." What's really ironic about his arrogance is that it's completely misplaced, as Mayo never finish the job off. You shouldn't look down on others when you haven't even reached the top.
Donegal_abroad (Donegal) - Posts: 1321 - 16/08/2016 23:57:08
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Mayo have ridden their luck to get to this Semi Final (Tyrone shoot, O'Shea dive etc). While I expect we will beat Tipp, I don't think it will be all one way traffic. It'll be a tight game and our full back line will have to improve significantly. I honestly can't see us competing with Dublin or Kerry (if we do make the final) unless we seriously up our performance levels.
pdempsey (Mayo) - Posts: 1313 - 17/08/2016 08:39:21
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I had friends at school from Kilmoyley, Ardfert and Kenmare. They always had a hurl with them. One of them did what it took to show me the basics. Funny how the school never bothered.
I recall Galvin, passionate and maverick to boot, once fetching up in Kilkenny in a sort of pilgrimage to greatness. Can you imagine making a Cat laugh by suggesting they return the favour? Actually, I bet one or two of them have a secret yin for the ostrich egg over the orange!
When a colleague bemoaned the dilution of Irish identity associated with spreading the games overseas, I had to laugh to myself. Hurling used to be a feature of life in Cornwall. Something similar is still played in Scotland. That particular cat is long since out of the bag!
plike (Kerry) - Posts: 569 - 17/08/2016 09:22:43
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Replying To Donegal_abroad: "What's really ironic about his arrogance is that it's completely misplaced, as Mayo never finish the job off. You shouldn't look down on others when you haven't even reached the top." I don't often agree or back up the Master but that drives me insane that just cause he is from Mayo he can't comment in a certain way. "YOu have not reached the top" - have you personally won an All Ireland? We are all just fans here on an internet forum. I don't think there are too many All Ireland winner's posting here. We have posters from Antrim, Fermanagh, Wexford, Laois etc in the past all slagging us here about Mayo in the past....I suppose they shouldn't be slagging us either....no?
yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11236 - 17/08/2016 09:28:48
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What's really ironic about his arrogance is that it's completely misplaced, as Mayo never finish the job off. You shouldn't look down on others when you haven't even reached the top.
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Im not looking down on anybody, and didn't make a single arrogant comment. It was in fact Ulsterman who was looking down on the mayo team. I have no issue with someone saying mayo player x didn't play well, or mayo done y wrong, but his constant labelling them as mentally weak is garbage. Then they go and beat one of his adopted counties and he changes his tune completely, stating the exact opposite of what he said previously. Either they are mentally weak or they are mentally strong - that is permanent, you cant change when you like. Of course tyrone cant be mentally weak in his book, therefore it is mayo that have changed - how predictable. Surely tyrone are now mentally weak - even weaker than the mental waifs that are mayo?
As you say, this constant looking down on others when you haven't reached the top isn't on - particularly when those you are looking down on have achieved far more than you or your own team. That is exactly the point I am making to Ulsterman. A bit of self awareness wouldn't go amiss. It is equivalent to some rank-average irish 100m runner dictating to yohane blake and Justin gatlin about how to run the 100m when they would probably run it backwards faster than he would forwards.
TheMaster (Mayo) - Posts: 16187 - 17/08/2016 10:37:09
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Replying To TheMaster: "What's really ironic about his arrogance is that it's completely misplaced, as Mayo never finish the job off. You shouldn't look down on others when you haven't even reached the top.
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Im not looking down on anybody, and didn't make a single arrogant comment. It was in fact Ulsterman who was looking down on the mayo team. I have no issue with someone saying mayo player x didn't play well, or mayo done y wrong, but his constant labelling them as mentally weak is garbage. Then they go and beat one of his adopted counties and he changes his tune completely, stating the exact opposite of what he said previously. Either they are mentally weak or they are mentally strong - that is permanent, you cant change when you like. Of course tyrone cant be mentally weak in his book, therefore it is mayo that have changed - how predictable. Surely tyrone are now mentally weak - even weaker than the mental waifs that are mayo?
As you say, this constant looking down on others when you haven't reached the top isn't on - particularly when those you are looking down on have achieved far more than you or your own team. That is exactly the point I am making to Ulsterman. A bit of self awareness wouldn't go amiss. It is equivalent to some rank-average irish 100m runner dictating to yohane blake and Justin gatlin about how to run the 100m when they would probably run it backwards faster than he would forwards." Mayo do quiet well for a mentally week team lacking marquee forward's and a decent full back. Jesus we have no business being in the business end of the championship according to some people ;)
yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11236 - 17/08/2016 11:04:20
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Replying To yew_tree: "I don't often agree or back up the Master but that drives me insane that just cause he is from Mayo he can't comment in a certain way. "YOu have not reached the top" - have you personally won an All Ireland? We are all just fans here on an internet forum. I don't think there are too many All Ireland winner's posting here. We have posters from Antrim, Fermanagh, Wexford, Laois etc in the past all slagging us here about Mayo in the past....I suppose they shouldn't be slagging us either....no?" True comment, I wonder just how many posters are members of any county panel,very few I'd imagine,better things to be doing than slagging online.
GameOfTyrones (Tyrone) - Posts: 469 - 17/08/2016 11:48:47
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Replying To yew_tree: " Replying To TheMaster: "What's really ironic about his arrogance is that it's completely misplaced, as Mayo never finish the job off. You shouldn't look down on others when you haven't even reached the top.
Donegal_abroad
Im not looking down on anybody, and didn't make a single arrogant comment. It was in fact Ulsterman who was looking down on the mayo team. I have no issue with someone saying mayo player x didn't play well, or mayo done y wrong, but his constant labelling them as mentally weak is garbage. Then they go and beat one of his adopted counties and he changes his tune completely, stating the exact opposite of what he said previously. Either they are mentally weak or they are mentally strong - that is permanent, you cant change when you like. Of course tyrone cant be mentally weak in his book, therefore it is mayo that have changed - how predictable. Surely tyrone are now mentally weak - even weaker than the mental waifs that are mayo?
As you say, this constant looking down on others when you haven't reached the top isn't on - particularly when those you are looking down on have achieved far more than you or your own team. That is exactly the point I am making to Ulsterman. A bit of self awareness wouldn't go amiss. It is equivalent to some rank-average irish 100m runner dictating to yohane blake and Justin gatlin about how to run the 100m when they would probably run it backwards faster than he would forwards." Mayo do quiet well for a mentally week team lacking marquee forward's and a decent full back. Jesus we have no business being in the business end of the championship according to some people ;)"
GameOfTyrones (Tyrone) - Posts: 469 - 17/08/2016 12:08:36
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