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Replying To ziggy32001: "Mayo were rubbish before Horan came in.They were beaten by Wicklow in the championship!" That's my point
Uncle_Fester (Meath) - Posts: 217 - 09/08/2016 14:15:08
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Replying To Tonny1975: "That victory with Boden was significant in that in my view that team was the poorest Dublin team to win Club All Ireland ever . The Vincent teams of the 70s and now, Ballymun, Na Fianna were much superior outfits. Even in this year Dublin championship there were five better teams then Boden eg Ballymun, St. Vincents, Oliver Plunketts, Parnells. If you named the ten best club team in Ireland I dont think Ballyboden would even get on the list. Crossmaglen and Nemo would be much superior outfits. But what was even more impressive was how they won. With great comebacks, great one point victories and scoring great winning scores in the dying minutes of games. Who does that remind you off , The Meath teams of the 80s and 90s of course. While Colm Keaney and Michael Dara McAuley have raved about him . McCauley said he was the best manager he has worked with and he has been managed by Jim Galvin and Pat Gilroy. So yes there is no gurantee of success but when you examine his CV he is the by far the best candidate and the best option by a metric mile. His appointment could be a turning point in Meath football and leinster football. Kildare are going through a golden age of underage football and under someone like Glen Ryan I can see Kildare winning Leinster in the next few years. While Westmeath have a young team, who have shown real promise in the last two years reaching sucessive finals in the last two years. I believe there is leinster title for this Westmeath team also. Dublin are not going to win the next five All Irelands and they are not going to win next five leinsters. This Dublin team is much older then the above teams. And when the greats like Cluxton and Borgan retire, I dont believe there is a great conveyor belt of talent as people think in the capital. Of course Dublin will win leinsters, and be one of the top teams in the country, they always will be . But as this decade continues they will not be as strong as they are now. I actually believe last years All Ireland is the last one this great Dublin team will win. They peaked last September. And with McEntees appointment, I believe it has the potential to herald a new era in Leinster football. Meath All Ireland champions in 2019, 20 years since their last win and 70 since their first it has nice feel to it. Kildare leinster champions in 2018 twenty years since their great win 1998. Its all gonna change in Leinster football, wait til you see." You are obviously on the sauce if think Parnells are better than Boden. Have won a league in over 2 years and heading for Division 3
Gael85 (Dublin) - Posts: 1433 - 09/08/2016 14:48:56
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Replying To ziggy32001: "Mayo were rubbish before Horan came in.They were beaten by Wicklow in the championship!" Wicklow never beat Mayo. i think you mean Longford?
Gael85 (Dublin) - Posts: 1433 - 09/08/2016 14:51:19
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Happy with this appointment. Don't see us being world beaters next year but certainly should be more competitive and have more of an edge about us than this year.
From talking to people I get the impression Andy will not be afraid to demand off the players/ county board what is required in terms of preparing the squad like the stronger football counties.
The county board have shown with this appointment that they harbour some bit of an ambition for the county team.
bdbuddah (Meath) - Posts: 1358 - 09/08/2016 15:08:30
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Replying To gotmilk: "I'm not so sure you will be challenging for honours in two years. I watched you against Fermanagh this year and you were shocking. Maybe there is a crop of youngsters coming through but a lot of your key players are getting on. What age is Reilly?" Reilly is 27/28, arguably still in his prime, (fitness level) going by average age of teams, with the exception of O'Rourke (gk) burke and reilly I think majority of team are under 25, also there will be new players, lets not forget mayo got beat by Wicklow prior to Horan, Donegal got hammered by Longford prior to McGuinness,
I dont think anyone outside of county can actually understand how bad this current group of players were been managed. One lad who returned to club from county panel couldn't keep up with the club lads in training, the players are there, but to bring them upto county standard could take a year.
royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 09/08/2016 15:16:49
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Replying To Gael85: "Wicklow never beat Mayo. i think you mean Longford?" Sorry yes indeed!
But Mayo were seriously struggling before Horan came in..
ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 09/08/2016 15:39:00
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Replying To bdbuddah: "Happy with this appointment. Don't see us being world beaters next year but certainly should be more competitive and have more of an edge about us than this year.
From talking to people I get the impression Andy will not be afraid to demand off the players/ county board what is required in terms of preparing the squad like the stronger football counties.
The county board have shown with this appointment that they harbour some bit of an ambition for the county team." Indeed and I am sure such stuff was discussed.
Overall better professionalism is what is needed..
ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 09/08/2016 15:40:54
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All anyone can ask is for the players to rise to this challenge, there can be no we know better attitude, either get with the program or get off panel. No more few scoops after one game and prior to another
royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 09/08/2016 16:15:01
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Good to see some optimism being posted by Meath men , instead of the begrudging , defeatist kick Dublin out of Leinster shi7 we have had to endure by SOME of your posters , nice to know after a full review of and stocktake Balls = two
Happen to understand and agree with your feel good factor , great appointment , if it results in my sworn enemy actually turning up and doing the jersey credit then I'm all for it. Dubs v Meath competitive live for it.
Damothedub (Dublin) - Posts: 5193 - 09/08/2016 16:27:27
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I think its a great appointment for Meath considering the success Andy had with Ballyboden but Meath people need to remember Ballyboden have probably the biggest pick in Dublin and quite a few of them players (Basquel, Nelson, Declan O Mahony) would make the Meath and most other county panels but are not at the standard required for Dublin.
In my opinion Meath don't have a top class forward like the top counties:
Dublin: Connolly, Brogan
Kerry: Geaney, JOD
Tipp: Quinlivan, Sweeney
Mayo: Moran, O Connor
Donegal: McBreaty
Monaghan: McManus
Galway: Comer, Cummins
It showed with Tyrone the last day that they don't have a top class forward. To compete in division 1 and make quarter or semi finals you need to have someone who can score 3+ pts from play a game along with a reliable free taker. This year against Dublin there was no forward how could do that.
Another area I feel Meath lack is Midfield. Andy needs to find mobile midfielders who can win ball and score as well as tracking back (Donnelly, Maher, Fenton). Against Dublin your midfield sat back and couldn't handle Fenton and Macauley running.
My question for Meath supporters is IF Ballyboden make it to the 17th of March next year will effect Meath preparing as it will be in the middle of the NFL and getting promoted should be the main aim for Andy?
Jackos_Wacko (Kerry) - Posts: 417 - 09/08/2016 16:30:20
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Replying To Jackos_Wacko: "I think its a great appointment for Meath considering the success Andy had with Ballyboden but Meath people need to remember Ballyboden have probably the biggest pick in Dublin and quite a few of them players (Basquel, Nelson, Declan O Mahony) would make the Meath and most other county panels but are not at the standard required for Dublin.
In my opinion Meath don't have a top class forward like the top counties:
Dublin: Connolly, Brogan
Kerry: Geaney, JOD
Tipp: Quinlivan, Sweeney
Mayo: Moran, O Connor
Donegal: McBreaty
Monaghan: McManus
Galway: Comer, Cummins
It showed with Tyrone the last day that they don't have a top class forward. To compete in division 1 and make quarter or semi finals you need to have someone who can score 3+ pts from play a game along with a reliable free taker. This year against Dublin there was no forward how could do that.
Another area I feel Meath lack is Midfield. Andy needs to find mobile midfielders who can win ball and score as well as tracking back (Donnelly, Maher, Fenton). Against Dublin your midfield sat back and couldn't handle Fenton and Macauley running.
My question for Meath supporters is IF Ballyboden make it to the 17th of March next year will effect Meath preparing as it will be in the middle of the NFL and getting promoted should be the main aim for Andy?" Conor Gillespies's injury has proved to be a huge loss.Bryan Menton will be back next year and he is very mobile.
As for the forwards,we have a lot of decent forwards but none of them as of yet have hit the top class bracket.You are correct we need one to do that.Most of them are lacking confidence imo.
ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 09/08/2016 16:44:34
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Replying To Jackos_Wacko: "I think its a great appointment for Meath considering the success Andy had with Ballyboden but Meath people need to remember Ballyboden have probably the biggest pick in Dublin and quite a few of them players (Basquel, Nelson, Declan O Mahony) would make the Meath and most other county panels but are not at the standard required for Dublin.
In my opinion Meath don't have a top class forward like the top counties:
Dublin: Connolly, Brogan
Kerry: Geaney, JOD
Tipp: Quinlivan, Sweeney
Mayo: Moran, O Connor
Donegal: McBreaty
Monaghan: McManus
Galway: Comer, Cummins
It showed with Tyrone the last day that they don't have a top class forward. To compete in division 1 and make quarter or semi finals you need to have someone who can score 3+ pts from play a game along with a reliable free taker. This year against Dublin there was no forward how could do that.
Another area I feel Meath lack is Midfield. Andy needs to find mobile midfielders who can win ball and score as well as tracking back (Donnelly, Maher, Fenton). Against Dublin your midfield sat back and couldn't handle Fenton and Macauley running.
My question for Meath supporters is IF Ballyboden make it to the 17th of March next year will effect Meath preparing as it will be in the middle of the NFL and getting promoted should be the main aim for Andy?" Firstly graham Reilly has been averaging 3+ points per game for Meath for a number of years, even this year v dubs.
I also think that Andy is only well aware he may have to split his time into league, in such instances Gerry will predominately look after Meath under Andy's watchful eye.
I actually admired the man for telling Meath CB that he would not leave boden straight away, it show huge commitment.
royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 09/08/2016 17:05:44
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Congratulations Meath men on a fantastic appointment.
I do hope he fails miserably though! ;-)
JayP (Dublin) - Posts: 1772 - 09/08/2016 17:12:47
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Replying To JayP: "Congratulations Meath men on a fantastic appointment.
I do hope he fails miserably though! ;-)" Many do, but I have not felt such a wave of relief coupled with optimism as I have felt today, even talking to family and friends, I texted a player and the energy in his response was clear to be seen.
It's a new beginning and the feeling is the sky is the limit, now we all have to temper our expectations a little (myself included) but honestly this is the most positive thing to happen in Meath senior football since 2010.
royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 09/08/2016 19:44:24
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Replying To royaldunne: " Replying To Jackos_Wacko: "I think its a great appointment for Meath considering the success Andy had with Ballyboden but Meath people need to remember Ballyboden have probably the biggest pick in Dublin and quite a few of them players (Basquel, Nelson, Declan O Mahony) would make the Meath and most other county panels but are not at the standard required for Dublin.
In my opinion Meath don't have a top class forward like the top counties:
Dublin: Connolly, Brogan
Kerry: Geaney, JOD
Tipp: Quinlivan, Sweeney
Mayo: Moran, O Connor
Donegal: McBreaty
Monaghan: McManus
Galway: Comer, Cummins
It showed with Tyrone the last day that they don't have a top class forward. To compete in division 1 and make quarter or semi finals you need to have someone who can score 3+ pts from play a game along with a reliable free taker. This year against Dublin there was no forward how could do that.
Another area I feel Meath lack is Midfield. Andy needs to find mobile midfielders who can win ball and score as well as tracking back (Donnelly, Maher, Fenton). Against Dublin your midfield sat back and couldn't handle Fenton and Macauley running.
My question for Meath supporters is IF Ballyboden make it to the 17th of March next year will effect Meath preparing as it will be in the middle of the NFL and getting promoted should be the main aim for Andy?" Firstly graham Reilly has been averaging 3+ points per game for Meath for a number of years, even this year v dubs. I also think that Andy is only well aware he may have to split his time into league, in such instances Gerry will predominately look after Meath under Andy's watchful eye. I actually admired the man for telling Meath CB that he would not leave boden straight away, it show huge commitment."
ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 09/08/2016 20:05:44
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From this side of the Boyne best of luck to Andy. Hopefully Leinster can get back to the 90,s and 00,s were there was the great battles between the Dubs and Meath, Kildare and Meath, Kildare and Laois winning Leinster titles after years in the wilderness, Westmeath finally winning Leinster, Offaly winning Leinster as a Div 4 side and Wexford reaching the final for the first time in decades. Please God Louth won't have to wait another 50 years to reach a Leinster final.
OLLIE (Louth) - Posts: 12224 - 09/08/2016 20:26:03
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Graham Reilly does not put himself about enough to be a top player. He won't get any better at this stage either. A good catch manager wise but you need 12 or so decent players to compliment him!
lilypad (Kildare) - Posts: 1363 - 09/08/2016 20:27:17
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Replying To lilypad: "Graham Reilly does not put himself about enough to be a top player. He won't get any better at this stage either. A good catch manager wise but you need 12 or so decent players to compliment him!" He is one of the players who it will be sink or swim under this management team.They will demand that the team work their socks off.Sadly lacking in Meath under MOD..
ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 09/08/2016 20:57:49
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He must belive there is the required talent in county, will need to shake up current squad and make additions.
seadog54 (Meath) - Posts: 2151 - 09/08/2016 21:05:42
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Replying To lilypad: "Graham Reilly does not put himself about enough to be a top player. He won't get any better at this stage either. A good catch manager wise but you need 12 or so decent players to compliment him!" Graham Reilly either scored or contributed to 45% of Meath scores in championship this year, I dont know of any other player who is not the free taker for team who would do that.
Btw that figure is actually a fact. Andy is not a stupid man, he knows this only too well, and other players in forward line must up their performances to reach same levels. He is one of only 4 nailed on certainties in Meath team.
And watch this space, the captain will be announced soon enough. Could be interesting choice.
royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 09/08/2016 21:53:18
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