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Replying To cluichethar:  "Why don't you go back and read your own posts like I did You were on about booing the ref you were on about cheering the wides Can't change what you wrote and you wrote a lot"
Why don't you re read it? Clearly state that they boo everything. Not condoning booing today either

gotmilk (Fermanagh) - Posts: 4971 - 28/08/2016 17:52:44    1906996

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Replying To cluichethar:  "Why don't you go back and read your own posts like I did You were on about booing the ref you were on about cheering the wides Can't change what you wrote and you wrote a lot"
I think you are of the opinion that I'm every poster on hoganstand, all I did was start the thread, numerous others posted on it.

gotmilk (Fermanagh) - Posts: 4971 - 28/08/2016 17:55:15    1906998

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An exceptional game with two teams who gave everything they had and reminded us all why we love this sport. Not surprised some are trying to find negatives as they hate the thought that these two sides could again provide a terrific spectacle.

Soma (UK) - Posts: 2630 - 28/08/2016 17:57:00    1906999

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See it's started already...Dublin won because of soft frees and at the same time not be called for their so called fouls.

Gough had a good game today. Was not the reason Dublin won nor Kerry lost.

witnof (Dublin) - Posts: 1604 - 28/08/2016 17:58:46    1907001

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See it's started already...Dublin won because of soft frees and at the same time not be called for their so called fouls.

Gough had a good game today. Was not the reason Dublin won nor Kerry lost.

witnof (Dublin) - Posts: 1604 - 28/08/2016 17:58:56    1907002

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Replying To Loughduff Lad:  "Great game. Thought the ref had a good game and let the things flow. He let them give fair hard shoulders, and I don't think there can be many complaints about the late frees for the Dubs. He kept an eye up the pitch and pulled guys for interfering with players off the ball. Would have been a hard game to referee and he did just fine in my eyes. Dubs pulled it out of the bag and were well worth it and coming from behind in the second half."
Yeah have to agree with you, I dont think he favoured anyone. And reports of him been assaulted by idiots throwing programs is nothing short of disgraceful.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 28/08/2016 18:01:09    1907007

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The best match this year. Well done to both teams.

border Gael (Monaghan) - Posts: 894 - 28/08/2016 18:02:56    1907010

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Replying To jobber:  "Eleven scoreable frees to Dublin four to Kerry from a teacher who works in Dublin.Thats what people are talking about"
So what you saying is Kerry fouled more?
Btw what people are talking about is the following

http://m.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/objects-thrown-at-referee-david-gough-after-absorbing-dublinkerry-clash-35001938.html

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 28/08/2016 18:03:19    1907011

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Replying To royaldunne:  "Cant understand anyone giving out about ref, Evan Spillane Sai he was brilliant. Best ref by a country mile.
On the match itself? Great game, better team won, Kerry threw the kitchen sink at them, dubs only chink (if they have one) is cluxton, mayo know what they must do.
But I've said this before and ill say It again, this dubs team is probably the best I have ever seen, to every county outside Leinster, welcome to what we have to face every year."
RTE have been singing his praises all year but he's been terrible. Today was no different.

Did he leave his black card at home? At least 4 clear cut black cards in that game, most notably for donaghy swinging out of (I think it was) Johnny copper.

The "shoulder" in the last minute was full frontal and Kerry should have had a free to level things right there.

keV Mac intimidated the umpire into wrongly changing his call and Gough did nothing.

Also notable that all 4 umpires were Goughs and that he refused to use hawk-eye when Kerry were adamant they'd scored a point.

I called him on here before the game "the very definition of inconsistent" and alas, that is what people are pointing out in relation to the awarding of scorable frees.

cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 5012 - 28/08/2016 18:06:46    1907015

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Replying To jobber:  "Eleven scoreable frees to Dublin four to Kerry from a teacher who works in Dublin.Thats what people are talking about"
Would it have made a difference? Should it have made a difference?

A very unusual game:

1) the good... It ebbed and flowed and you could see thought and effort, brains as well as brawn.

2) the bad... Kerry were often too slow and predictable when working the ball forward & Dublin seemed to be angling for frees for long stretches.

3) the ugly... The referee had a shocker, with 'that goal' being a howler of dithering.

The bottom line is Dublin deserved their luck, but players like Connolly need to have a look at themselves. Kerry need to retire Star, Sheehan and the Gooch because they simply don't have the legs any more.

I watched in a London pub sandwiched between a tall woman whose food arrived in the first half and who had some thirst on her there after. On the other side, I had a hipster (with beard) who insisted on a tedious monologue throughout, most of which had nothing to do with the game. Joy unbounded... and a bargain at £4.70 a pint. September is a 'dryathlon' month... so I'll start tomorrow (life gives you lemons; make lemonade)

plike (Kerry) - Posts: 569 - 28/08/2016 18:17:04    1907020

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Replying To jobber:  "Eleven scoreable frees to Dublin four to Kerry from a teacher who works in Dublin.Thats what people are talking about"
A culchie ref working in Dublin!! I think you really really have to start digging harder and deeper.

arock (Dublin) - Posts: 4896 - 28/08/2016 18:19:09    1907021

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Hard luck to kerry today..put in a great effort..surprised it was that close in the end as all week i thought the dubs were winning this by 5 at least.anyway a great match by 2 great rivals and the dubs now march on to take care of business on the 18th with a great semi final test under their belts..come on dublin..

GGdub (Dublin) - Posts: 260 - 28/08/2016 18:20:07    1907022

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Edge of the seat game. Great stuff. From a Mayo point of view possible the worst possible outcome for us. Dublin, the better faster team come through s tough encounter. Any notions of complancy from Dublin towards Mayo will be gone. I am more worried for our chances right now but sure we will wait and see

yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11232 - 28/08/2016 18:24:59    1907026

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Donaghy showing his class (or lack of) by refusing to shake Phillys hand before the game. Can't say I'm surprised.

CroiGorm (Dublin) - Posts: 1547 - 28/08/2016 18:28:01    1907028

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No excuses best team won.... can't have a 5 point lead and loose by 2 and make excuses. I really think if this had of been an AI final game you just wouldn't know with kerry they looked fantastic at times and I think that was the game dublin needed to be dethroned in the final... let's hope mayo prove me wrong.

Beautiful.Meath (Meath) - Posts: 537 - 28/08/2016 18:31:15    1907032

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The big call the ref got wrong in my opinion and it wasn't replayed was the shoulder to the chest of the Kerry player when he was going through At the time Kerry was down by a point Dublin went down the field and scored another The reason I say it was to the chest was the Kerry player went straight back on to his back Hit to his shoulder would have sent him sideways

cluichethar (Mayo) - Posts: 454 - 28/08/2016 18:37:27    1907044

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Now that I've seen it more clearly It was a definite free to Kerry McManamon absolutely cleaned Crowley The only thing debatable should be the color of the card Gough bottled it If it was at the other end it would have been called That non call had a Hugh bearing on the final outcome

cluichethar (Mayo) - Posts: 454 - 28/08/2016 18:50:40    1907053

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Replying To cluichethar:  "Now that I've seen it more clearly It was a definite free to Kerry McManamon absolutely cleaned Crowley The only thing debatable should be the color of the card Gough bottled it If it was at the other end it would have been called That non call had a Hugh bearing on the final outcome"
I hate this crap trying to predict what I want to say Huge not friggin Hugh

cluichethar (Mayo) - Posts: 454 - 28/08/2016 18:55:46    1907056

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Replying To cavanman47:  "RTE have been singing his praises all year but he's been terrible. Today was no different.

Did he leave his black card at home? At least 4 clear cut black cards in that game, most notably for donaghy swinging out of (I think it was) Johnny copper.

The "shoulder" in the last minute was full frontal and Kerry should have had a free to level things right there.

keV Mac intimidated the umpire into wrongly changing his call and Gough did nothing.

Also notable that all 4 umpires were Goughs and that he refused to use hawk-eye when Kerry were adamant they'd scored a point.

I called him on here before the game "the very definition of inconsistent" and alas, that is what people are pointing out in relation to the awarding of scorable frees."
Regarding hawk eye, as far as I'm aware, they can alert the ref if a wrong decision is made. If a score is given and it is wide (a la Waterford v Kilkenny first game) and vice versa, they can let the ref know. If this was given as wide, then it must have been wide as the ref wasn't told and play wasn't stopped to review it

Loughduff Lad (Cavan) - Posts: 2385 - 28/08/2016 19:11:42    1907067

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Replying To CroiGorm:  "Donaghy showing his class (or lack of) by refusing to shake Phillys hand before the game. Can't say I'm surprised."
To be fair to him after the game he went onto the field and shook hands with the Dublin players, most subs at that stage will head for the dressing room.

therealtmo (Tipperary) - Posts: 1292 - 28/08/2016 19:12:03    1907068

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