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Cooper is not 100% fit, o'donoughue's fitness is questionable too, or at least that shoulder is. Kerry's midfield too slow for Dublin, kerry could score well, Dublin will score more, noisy neighbours by 5 or 6. lilypad (Kildare) - Posts: 1363 - 07/08/2016 22:08:58 1897687 Link
Replying To lilypad: "Cooper is not 100% fit, o'donoughue's fitness is questionable too, or at least that shoulder is. Kerry's midfield too slow for Dublin, kerry could score well, Dublin will score more, noisy neighbours by 5 or 6." "noisy neighbours"?? The term is not at all suitable here as Dublin are traditionally more successful than ~Kildare. Noisy neighbours is used by United fans to mock City's new-found recent success. In GAA terms, it is a term us Cavan folk would use to describe Monaghan who have no real GAA pedigree but have found recent success due to having a very special player and some determined work-horses. cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 5021 - 07/08/2016 22:37:40 1897708 Link
Expect a good dublin win in this one..dont think this kerry team has the legs to go flat out for 70mins against us.to beat this dublin team team is going to take a monstrous effort plus kerry will need a minimum of 2 goals to stay in it.i have a feeling dublin are going to create a lot of goal chances here and will score a few.kerrys defence to me is slow and when you run at them full pelt a lot of gaps open up.dublin havnt been scoring as many goals this year but i think we will bag a few here..donegal match will stand to us going into this one,kerry are coming into this a bit undercooked.they'd wanna bring their A game for this semi or they'll be destroyed. GGdub (Dublin) - Posts: 260 - 07/08/2016 22:37:47 1897709 Link
Replying To cavanman47: ""noisy neighbours"?? The term is not at all suitable here as Dublin are traditionally more successful than ~Kildare. Noisy neighbours is used by United fans to mock City's new-found recent success. In GAA terms, it is a term us Cavan folk would use to describe Monaghan who have no real GAA pedigree but have found recent success due to having a very special player and some determined work-horses." No, I meant they're fu**g noisy :) lilypad (Kildare)** - Posts: 1363 - 07/08/2016 23:15:20 1897735 Link
Yerra at the very least I'm expecting Kerry to die with their boots on. Last September was the worst Kerry performance in a final I'd ever seen. The League final in April also saw Kerry strangely under cooked. If we again don't perform serious, serious questions must be raised of this management team. But I expect us to give this a good rattle. Based on the three encounters these past 11 months Dublin are justifiably favorites heading into this. The Kerry team and our supporters will travel more in hope than expectation. But sure God is good and you never know what might happen on any given Sunday. An Riocht Abu!!! TheHermit (Kerry) - Posts: 6354 - 08/08/2016 07:00:58 1897785 Link
Dublin: +) slick, fit and at ease with themselves -) missing a few at the back & can be rattled Kerry: +) lethal attacking options & streetwise decision making -) loss of pace in the backs & lack of depth on the bench Dublin should win if they run at Kerry and use their bench to best effect. Kerry could win if some of the younger &/or lesser talents assert themselves. So, there you have it: the need for focused application meets the desire for assertive performance. One wonders what will happen if both occur simultaneously?!!! plike (Kerry) - Posts: 569 - 08/08/2016 09:46:47 1897828 Link
Some amount of nonsense on this thread We know each other very well at this stage Here's to a good game. jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20601 - 08/08/2016 09:50:36 1897834 Link
Dublin not at their best against Donegal i suppose gives Kerry a tinge of hope. But without being at their best they still had way too much for Donegal apart from a late surge by Donegal the game was over just after half time. If Kerry bring to the table what they have offered all year...then it could be a long day in Croke Park for us and the Dubs will annihilate us. I just hoping Fitzmaurice has some other recipe cooking and has been keeping it back for the Dubs. I expect Donaghy to go back in full forward. Maher and Moran in midfield, Paul Murphy playing a more withdrawn role. We need to score at least 1 more goal than Dublin, possibly 2 to win. Normally I would be fairly optimistic about Kerry's chances but this year, there is only the slightest hint of a light at the end of the tunnel!!! woops (Kerry) - Posts: 2073 - 08/08/2016 10:15:58 1897847 Link
Lots of people saying Kerry have no pace at the back, I don't see it that way at all. Our six probable starters are Begley, Griffin, Enright, Morley, Crowley and Young. Not one of those lads is old or slow. Murphy will probably be named at number 10 and will spend a lot of time back there also, again he is a quick player. It may have been true other years but the older lads are gone from the starting 15 at this stage. I heard last night that Fenton may be in trouble with a broken jaw and may be doubtful? This is a big issue for Dublin if that's the case, he is a massive player at midfield and Bastick is just not a comparable replacement at this stage. GeniusGerry (Kerry) - Posts: 2105 - 08/08/2016 10:45:46 1897874 Link
No way should anyone be talking about this being a done deal. Kerry will not approach it like last year's final where they got it wrong tactically and Dublin dictated the game. Kerry have a superior kick pass than a Donegal (or most other teams) and quick pass into lively forwards will cause the Dub defence problems. Hoping for more of a 2013 game than what we got in 2015. Dublin to win a shoot out in another classic. poguemahone (Dublin) - Posts: 365 - 08/08/2016 10:47:54 1897876 Link
Replying To GeniusGerry: "Lots of people saying Kerry have no pace at the back, I don't see it that way at all. Our six probable starters are Begley, Griffin, Enright, Morley, Crowley and Young. Not one of those lads is old or slow. Murphy will probably be named at number 10 and will spend a lot of time back there also, again he is a quick player. It may have been true other years but the older lads are gone from the starting 15 at this stage. I heard last night that Fenton may be in trouble with a broken jaw and may be doubtful? This is a big issue for Dublin if that's the case, he is a massive player at midfield and Bastick is just not a comparable replacement at this stage." What about midfield + HF Line, we will get eaten alive for pace in that sector by the likes of MDMA and Fenton. That's the biggest reason Kerry can't and wont win on August 28 People say the Kerry defenders are useless, I disagree because not only are they each trying to mark a superstar forward but also have to deal with oncoming midfielders and opposing half-backs because we can't stop them out the field It's hard enough to try and mark Flynn Connolly Brogan Andrews etc etc without having to deal with runners coming from deep KYTitletown (Kerry) - Posts: 816 - 08/08/2016 11:20:07 1897897 Link
I think Kerry played very well against Dublin for a large part of the league final until AOM got the red card Not forgetting that Kerry were without a number of their best players - especially JOD They played well and Dublin will have to be at their very best to make it to the final There is no doubt about it, Kerry have all it takes to beat Dublin - especially if Dublin don't perform, or lose players to red cards etc. I sill think we'll have too many moving parts for Kerry, but only if we perform to their potential. jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20601 - 08/08/2016 11:25:45 1897903 Link
Replying To KYTitletown: "What about midfield + HF Line, we will get eaten alive for pace in that sector by the likes of MDMA and Fenton. That's the biggest reason Kerry can't and wont win on August 28 People say the Kerry defenders are useless, I disagree because not only are they each trying to mark a superstar forward but also have to deal with oncoming midfielders and opposing half-backs because we can't stop them out the field It's hard enough to try and mark Flynn Connolly Brogan Andrews etc etc without having to deal with runners coming from deep" I was speaking specifically about defenders, several posters have referred to our old, slow defence. I was just trying to say it's a bit of a myth. I don't think our forwards are slow either, Darren Sullivan, JOD, Murphy, Geaney, Walsh and O'Brien are all quick and athletic players. We have a serious mobility issue at midfield alright, but we have what we have and must work with it. If Fenton doesn't make the game I don't think the Dubs have that much of an advantage there at all though. Don't get me wrong I'm not saying we should be favourites or anything, just that some of the preconceptions people have about most of the Kerry team being old and slow are not entirely accurate when you look at the players. GeniusGerry (Kerry) - Posts: 2105 - 08/08/2016 11:49:52 1897922 Link
I think Kerry will have a look at the quarter final and think the Dubs are there for the taking. They are by no means this unstoppable machine the media likes to parrot on about - a supremely talented bunch and some brilliant skills on display but most definitely beatable. I feel Kerry will not make the sloppy mistakes we made and so there'll only be a point or 2 in it either way. If they get enough ball in to Geaney they have a chance, what a player that lad is JoeSoap (Donegal) - Posts: 1432 - 08/08/2016 11:58:27 1897928 Link
Tickets on sale now! Choice of seats aren't great. No lower Cusack available, selected Lower Hogan and the best they offered was 324 (corner of Davin and Hogan) CroiGorm (Dublin) - Posts: 1547 - 08/08/2016 12:11:40 1897946 Link
Looking forward to the sycophantic waffle in the media this week. Although in fairness more and more of the media are calling it as it is I.e both Kerry and Dublin are as cynical if not more than those nasty boys from the North. Particularly outside of the traditional outlets of RTE and the broadsheets. Both teams will engage in an open skillful game devoid of any cynicism or this 'targeting' of opposition players. That behaviour is unbecoming of both these teams. Neither manager wouldn't even contemplate mentioning the word before the game but after, you wait.... Maybe Kerry have been working on something completely new to overcome Dublin and will spring it on Sunday and catch Dublin on the hop. Otherwise it's Dublin's to lose. Weary (None) - Posts: 249 - 08/08/2016 12:21:26 1897959 Link
I wouldnt be too cocky if i was a Dub supporter look what happened in 55 75 78 84 09 when we had no chance we have every chance if Kerry play play with the hunger that Waterford showed yesterday they will win have Dublinwe are that hunger not so sure we are every bit as talented as Dublin Last years final Dubs got 2 points from play we were denied a penalty looks like a Kerry Tipp final wfkerry (USA) - Posts: 933 - 08/08/2016 12:38:26 1897982 Link
Replying To wfkerry: "I wouldnt be too cocky if i was a Dub supporter look what happened in 55 75 78 84 09 when we had no chance we have every chance if Kerry play play with the hunger that Waterford showed yesterday they will win have Dublinwe are that hunger not so sure we are every bit as talented as Dublin Last years final Dubs got 2 points from play we were denied a penalty looks like a Kerry Tipp final" 2009 was when the 4 Regions had a chance to beat the great Kerry team. All talk going to the game was that it was the end of the road for that great team. The Dubs supporters in fairness were sporting in defeat and sporting in victory 2 years later. As someone said the tide turns. We neglected our youth and are taking the responsibility for that. '14 was our first minor All-Ireland since '94. It was backed up last year. Galway, Meath, Tyrone, Mayo and Cork also have responsibilities for what has been a poor decade. The 4 Regions can only take on the opponents in front of them. legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 7902 - 08/08/2016 12:53:04 1897992 Link
Replying To wfkerry: "I wouldnt be too cocky if i was a Dub supporter look what happened in 55 75 78 84 09 when we had no chance we have every chance if Kerry play play with the hunger that Waterford showed yesterday they will win have Dublinwe are that hunger not so sure we are every bit as talented as Dublin Last years final Dubs got 2 points from play we were denied a penalty looks like a Kerry Tipp final" Indeed. Our cockyiness in 1955 was legendary. Many of our forefathers lost their homes by gambling on a sure Dublin win. We'll never learn. I'll be in the same boat if we lose in three weeks. There needs to be cockyiness support group and hotline set up immediately. The government are doing nothing. poguemahone (Dublin) - Posts: 365 - 08/08/2016 12:59:54 1897997 Link
Our full back line in 09 was Hubbard Bastic Andrews Trust me if I was a poster on here back then I wouldn't have given us a hope. No one being cocky whatsoever we just believe If both teams play to their best then Dublin will win. Them two young lads just out of minor is definitely something we should target , they will I'm sure be Kerry greats but right now there young and inexperienced , playing Dublin in a pack Croker is different to anything them have ever faced it should be interesting. No way will they start Gooch he hasn't the legs anymore but he's a dangerous sub to bring in. clondalkindub (Dublin) - Posts: 9926 - 08/08/2016 13:11:05 1898009 Link