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Replying To cavanman47:  "Can't watch it as I'm in work ,but what are we looking for exactly? I've seen the goal about 20 times and have yet to count less than 11 steps.

Off the top of my head, the most dubious free was given against Galvin somewhere between the Dublin 65 and 45."
Not to worry. It was just an amazing 10mins of sport. But I'm totally biased!

Westkerry is right though, it's not that relevant. I just wanted to change the subject away from drama Queens demanding apologies.

Referees time keeping has improved ever so slightly.

Is Gooch going to start this time???

SirStrawHat (Dublin) - Posts: 58 - 18/08/2016 16:42:47    1902870

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Replying To KYTitletown:  "Look lets move on - I'm never going to change my mind on what happened and the result will never change

Those defeats always stick out in the mind than any win does (be it as a player or spectator) - maybe that's just me who thinks like that.

I'd rather the topic move away from 2011 because it is just too painful (lot more than any 10 or 15 point defeat does!) and I'm not going to pretend it doesn't still sting. It's also disrespectful to this amazing Dublin side at present to keep bringing up a game 5 years ago and not relevant to the 28th"
"I will never change my mind"

How rounded.

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20600 - 18/08/2016 16:43:05    1902871

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Replying To jimbodub:  ""I will never change my mind"

How rounded."
Leave him be. He might insist on bringing up our last SF defeat v Donegal.

Ouch!!!

Always hurts much more to lose as favourites. Those are the stakes for us this time.

SirStrawHat (Dublin) - Posts: 58 - 18/08/2016 17:16:27    1902903

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Replying To jimbodub:  ""I will never change my mind"

How rounded."
Do you think the Irish soccer players who played vs France are going to change their mind on the Henry handball, or more recently Michael Conlan is going to agree that he was beaten fairly vs the Russian just because others tell them to

Anyway, we move on

KYTitletown (Kerry) - Posts: 816 - 18/08/2016 19:39:35    1902965

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Poor comparison my friend, they were ripped off, ye were beaten because you went asleep, and we were the better side for at least the first 45-50mins. and then the last ten. That adds up to almost an hour, fancy that!

You'd be right to leave 2011 in the past!

realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 8592 - 19/08/2016 01:53:09    1903063

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Replying To realdub:  "Poor comparison my friend, they were ripped off, ye were beaten because you went asleep, and we were the better side for at least the first 45-50mins. and then the last ten. That adds up to almost an hour, fancy that!

You'd be right to leave 2011 in the past!"
Yerra ye were supposedly the best side against Donegal in 2014 too!!!

Sure we were the best side for 45-50 minutes in 2002, still lost!

TheHermit (Kerry) - Posts: 6354 - 19/08/2016 09:29:00    1903088

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Replying To TheHermit:  "Yerra ye were supposedly the best side against Donegal in 2014 too!!!

Sure we were the best side for 45-50 minutes in 2002, still lost!"
maybe ye need to man up so Hermit and stop losing games ye should be winning......
starting to sound like the Irish Rugby Team..........

;)

Liamwalkinstown (Dublin) - Posts: 8166 - 19/08/2016 10:23:06    1903104

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What's with all the hawing about the past got to do with the here and now? I'd love to know what current players and managers think will happen... as they're far more likely to be on the ball.

I also can help wondering why anyone would follow a sport at which their team is excelling if all the pleasure it gives them is to bray away at those left in the slipstream. The logic of a child. The absence of manners. The social skills of a mangy baboon.

plike (Kerry) - Posts: 569 - 19/08/2016 10:43:57    1903113

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Replying To realdub:  "Poor comparison my friend, they were ripped off, ye were beaten because you went asleep, and we were the better side for at least the first 45-50mins. and then the last ten. That adds up to almost an hour, fancy that!

You'd be right to leave 2011 in the past!"
I think some of the early stuff from the ref in 2011 left a bad taste in Kerry people's mouths. Dublin were very fortunate to be leading at half time in my view. It was a dreadful performance from the ref for both sides. No qualms about the result though, twas there for us and we couldn't hold on. Dublin deserved the win.

GeniusGerry (Kerry) - Posts: 2105 - 19/08/2016 10:44:37    1903114

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Cluxton
Byrne
Cooper
McMahon
McCarthy (maybe)
O Sullivan
Small
McCauley
Fenton
Flynn
Connolly
Kilkenny
Kev Mac
Rock
Brogan

That will be more or less our starting 15 , what do you's think will be Kerry's team?

clondalkindub (Dublin) - Posts: 9926 - 19/08/2016 10:53:56    1903123

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Replying To Liamwalkinstown:  "maybe ye need to man up so Hermit and stop losing games ye should be winning......
starting to sound like the Irish Rugby Team..........

;)"
Nah, if any county is the Irish rugby team it's Monaghan: great at making a Q-final but still waiting to reach a semi!

TheHermit (Kerry) - Posts: 6354 - 19/08/2016 10:58:19    1903124

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Replying To realdub:  "Poor comparison my friend, they were ripped off, ye were beaten because you went asleep, and we were the better side for at least the first 45-50mins. and then the last ten. That adds up to almost an hour, fancy that!

You'd be right to leave 2011 in the past!"
So you're saying we only played for 10 minutes in the 2011 final realdub and we only lost by a point? Jays I knew we were good but I didn't realise we could do so much damage in 10 minutes.
But sure when I think of it we only really played for 10 minutes in last years final as well and we lost by 3 points but that's our problem.
Ah well here's hoping we can put in a good 15 minutes in this years semifinal and who knows we might jus do it. :-)

KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 19/08/2016 11:09:27    1903129

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Replying To clondalkindub:  "Cluxton
Byrne
Cooper
McMahon
McCarthy (maybe)
O Sullivan
Small
McCauley
Fenton
Flynn
Connolly
Kilkenny
Kev Mac
Rock
Brogan

That will be more or less our starting 15 , what do you's think will be Kerry's team?"
Nobody knows the Kerry team, anybody that tells you they do (bar Fitzmaurice) is spoofing. It's a worry that we don't have a settled team at this stage. There's probably 3-4 places with a question mark and some crazy rumours going around as you've probably seen, full backs starting midfield, midfielders starting in goals etc.

GeniusGerry (Kerry) - Posts: 2105 - 19/08/2016 11:13:38    1903131

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Replying To KingdomBoy1:  "So you're saying we only played for 10 minutes in the 2011 final realdub and we only lost by a point? Jays I knew we were good but I didn't realise we could do so much damage in 10 minutes.
But sure when I think of it we only really played for 10 minutes in last years final as well and we lost by 3 points but that's our problem.
Ah well here's hoping we can put in a good 15 minutes in this years semifinal and who knows we might jus do it. :-)"
Yerra we only played for about 5 minutes last September Kingdomboy.

But think we put in a good 35 minutes in 2009, result spoke for itself :)

TheHermit (Kerry) - Posts: 6354 - 19/08/2016 11:18:26    1903136

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Replying To GeniusGerry:  "I think some of the early stuff from the ref in 2011 left a bad taste in Kerry people's mouths. Dublin were very fortunate to be leading at half time in my view. It was a dreadful performance from the ref for both sides. No qualms about the result though, twas there for us and we couldn't hold on. Dublin deserved the win."
Dublin were very fortunate to be leading at half time in my view

Kerry only scored 3 times in the first half. What did you expect?

Kurt_Angle (Dublin) - Posts: 567 - 19/08/2016 12:04:09    1903152

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Replying To TheHermit:  "Yerra we only played for about 5 minutes last September Kingdomboy.

But think we put in a good 35 minutes in 2009, result spoke for itself :)"
In all seriousness though, how many of our players actually played well in last years final the hermit 4/5 maybe? Weather it was the 2 in a row curse or over training or what ever I don't know but our boys were as flat as pancakes, hopefully we can get a few more lads to stand up this time around. Also I don't know if this will be a factor or not but the when Dublin beat us in 2011 and in 2013 we didn't get to play them the following year which meant the old hurt wasn't fresh in our players minds, well it should be fresh in their minds this year, all fitz has to do is make them sit down and watch last years final or the league final to get their gander up. An Riocht Abu

KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 19/08/2016 12:07:33    1903153

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Replying To KingdomBoy1:  "In all seriousness though, how many of our players actually played well in last years final the hermit 4/5 maybe? Weather it was the 2 in a row curse or over training or what ever I don't know but our boys were as flat as pancakes, hopefully we can get a few more lads to stand up this time around. Also I don't know if this will be a factor or not but the when Dublin beat us in 2011 and in 2013 we didn't get to play them the following year which meant the old hurt wasn't fresh in our players minds, well it should be fresh in their minds this year, all fitz has to do is make them sit down and watch last years final or the league final to get their gander up. An Riocht Abu"
Kingdomboy, ever strike you that maybe, just maybe, the reason ye never play well against us anymore, is cos ye are not good enough to?
That ye are well able for the lesser teams, but the Dubs are too good for ye and just simply better and thats WHY ye dont play well against us?

Ever consider that crazy possibility!

Same reason why say Everton never play well against Liverpool. Liverpool have better players, superior in their positions, hence Everton cant match them...

Crazy theory wha!!!

Liamwalkinstown (Dublin) - Posts: 8166 - 19/08/2016 12:16:49    1903158

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Replying To KingdomBoy1:  "In all seriousness though, how many of our players actually played well in last years final the hermit 4/5 maybe? Weather it was the 2 in a row curse or over training or what ever I don't know but our boys were as flat as pancakes, hopefully we can get a few more lads to stand up this time around. Also I don't know if this will be a factor or not but the when Dublin beat us in 2011 and in 2013 we didn't get to play them the following year which meant the old hurt wasn't fresh in our players minds, well it should be fresh in their minds this year, all fitz has to do is make them sit down and watch last years final or the league final to get their gander up. An Riocht Abu"
Trying to remember, didn't think Geaney or JOD did a whole pile wrong.

Star caused a bit of trouble and I still maintain Galvin didn't put a foot wrong when he came on either.

The half back line were competent enough, but ya a lot of no shows last September. Still think Cian O'Neill has a lot of responsibility for that. Thhey looked like they had been run into the ground the week before!

Interesting point Kingdomboy, if we even go back to Tyrone we never got the chance to face them in the Championship the year after a defeat to them. Until now it was the same with Dublin. So it will be interesting to see can they react!!

TheHermit (Kerry) - Posts: 6354 - 19/08/2016 12:32:53    1903163

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Replying To Liamwalkinstown:  "Kingdomboy, ever strike you that maybe, just maybe, the reason ye never play well against us anymore, is cos ye are not good enough to?
That ye are well able for the lesser teams, but the Dubs are too good for ye and just simply better and thats WHY ye dont play well against us?

Ever consider that crazy possibility!

Same reason why say Everton never play well against Liverpool. Liverpool have better players, superior in their positions, hence Everton cant match them...

Crazy theory wha!!!"
I'd say Kerry played well enough in 2013 although the score line at the end didn't show it. 2011 we did ok too and could well have drawn / won but it's so long ago now it's irrelevant.

Last year was a disaster and kerry were dreadful. Were Dublin good, or just less bad than Kerry? Both teams scored a pathetic 8 points from play. Either way I think it's a generalisation to say we never play well against ye. It was one game. Let's see what Sunday week brings.

Btw nobody is trying to say Dublin are not better at the moment. If Kerry come through I expect it'll be down to a large slice of luck or a very fine margin. Dublin are undoubtedly ahead in most areas but we are not without hope.

GeniusGerry (Kerry) - Posts: 2105 - 19/08/2016 12:41:26    1903169

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Gerry I have to say ditto to that.....

woops (Kerry) - Posts: 2073 - 19/08/2016 13:00:48    1903180

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