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The descissions that went against them last night was unbelievable Mcgrath kept them in the game he did the same a couple of years ago when Tannion broke Tj Reids knee cap
johnwhite12 (Kilkenny) - Posts: 306 - 14/08/2016 23:48:54 1901063 Link 0 |
Hard luck Waterford..Another awesome display and i really feel for Ya's..Had youse won I would have been after a Ticket for the Final. InishowenMan (Donegal) - Posts: 216 - 15/08/2016 01:51:25 1901083 Link 1 |
Johnwhite12 is pulling down on a ball at 45 degrees not considered a chop in Kilkenny? As a somewhat neutral, I thought the referee was fair enough, got a few wrong both way but he gave Kilkenny a couple of very soft frees. But as I have seen somebody say on another thread, Kilkenny booing, cheering wides, ironically cheering when they get a free, is behaviour I do not associate with Kilkenny, but has crept in to their psyche in recent years. I first seen it in Wexford Park in a league quarter final 2-3 years ago, you could go read a rule book and find out that many of the frees on Saturday were rightly given against you. Pinkie (Wexford) - Posts: 4100 - 15/08/2016 08:58:46 1901102 Link 0 |
Also I think refereeing is failing in the following areas in the game in general, not just the other night: Pinkie (Wexford) - Posts: 4100 - 15/08/2016 10:19:27 1901135 Link 0 |
"as a somewhat neutral"......yeah, right Pinkie. ballydalane (Kilkenny) - Posts: 1246 - 15/08/2016 11:21:14 1901174 Link 2 |
Of course I was cheering for Waterford, but that doesn't mean I don't see harsh decisions both ways. I have always said Padraic Maher on Michael Rice was the nastiest challenge to be allowed pass I have seen on a hurling pitch. I always said Shefflin was harshly sent off v Cork. So don't give me this "non-neutral" nonsense. Pinkie (Wexford) - Posts: 4100 - 15/08/2016 11:58:36 1901199 Link 1 |
You said Kilkenny got some very soft frees. I saw the match both live and recorded on tv and that assertion is utter nonsense. Kilkenny barely got any frees, let alone "very soft" ones. What match were you watching? ballydalane (Kilkenny) - Posts: 1246 - 15/08/2016 21:31:33 1901507 Link 0 |
What soft frees did he give, the foul on P Murphy was straight in front of his eyes the shoulder by liam Blanchfield he gave a free to Waterford , Barry Coughlan was persistently fouling Colin Fennelly all night Maurice Shanahan got handy frees when he came in did he not pull the helmet off Joey Holden do you wont me to continue. As regards Wexford talk about the pot calling the kettle black.
johnwhite12 (Kilkenny) - Posts: 306 - 15/08/2016 23:01:45 1901539 Link 0 |
i have went to wexford matches for 30+ years in both codes and can tell you i rarely if ever heard wexford fans booing,also i don't recall paul codd saying that,so i think that is completely groundless claim. perfect10 (Wexford) - Posts: 3929 - 16/08/2016 08:50:59 1901585 Link 0 |
also kilkenny fans complain about referees,as already said where are all the referees from the county?i can only remember sean cleere in my lifetime,and he doesnt get any big games?why? perfect10 (Wexford) - Posts: 3929 - 16/08/2016 08:52:59 1901586 Link 0 |
was at the game - was brilliant even as a neutral i could feel the tension - was surrounded by kilkenny fans - as always their fans fought tooth and nail for everything every ball every decision- guybeside me was in his 70s and has seen kilkenny win 20-30 (maybe more all ireland) and still he (like all the kilkenny fans) was like a fella supporting a side who were trying to make their first all ireland final - any time ive been at kilkenny games recently its been the same , you would think in terms of hunger that waterford fans would be the hungrier, but no the kilkenny support was amazing, they have population of around 100k so to bring 15k fans to thurles was aroudn 1/6 or 1/7 of the population. Amazing stuff - pitch invasion and all after game too - privilage to be there janesboro (Limerick) - Posts: 1502 - 16/08/2016 12:55:59 1901749 Link 0 |
i have been going to intercounty matches in both Leinster and Munster since the 60s,I have been all over Munster and Leinster at championship and league matches,not just when KK were playing but I attended so may Munster championship matches,in all that time, I have never seen a referee make so many mistakes,I am saying mistakes rather than accusing him of been biased,Perfect10 you talk about KK booing,they had every reason to,some of the mistakes have already highlighted but it got so bad that a line ball to KK that a blind man could see was given to Waterford,would any manager not just Brian Cody get animated,I know neutrals wanted Waterford to win but I think most people would want a team to win on merit,reading some of the comments here I am beginning to doubt I was in Thurles at all on Sat night,
mooncat (Kilkenny) - Posts: 534 - 16/08/2016 14:44:30 1901846 Link 0 |
In fairness, there are a lot of borderline decisions in modern day hurling, and I guess it depends which way the blinkers are focused as to whether they go for or against us all!
Pinkie (Wexford) - Posts: 4100 - 16/08/2016 15:13:18 1901881 Link 0 |
I agree there are borderline calls,but the two calls highlighted werent borderline,and I dont think any team in the heat of last Sats battle didnt concede a free for 29 mins,in all of this I think there hasnt been enough praise for the skills and commitment of both teams,they gave their all on the field,I really do feel for the Waterford players and I think they will certainly win an AI,they have the talent and the manager to do it
mooncat (Kilkenny) - Posts: 534 - 16/08/2016 17:51:03 1901988 Link 0 |
You obviously didn't go to the Wexford v Limerick football game in portlaoise so in 2011, I think it was. A few decisions were harsh against Wex which drew huge boos during and after the match. Again at the U21 AI hurling final v Clare in 2014 Wex fans booing a lot. Make no mistake, all fans including yours, let referees know when they believe a ref is shafting them, and we're all blinkered to some extent when it comes to judging refs. KK fans & Cody seem to get more scrutiny on these forums tho, like last weekend for example, even tho the Waterford fans & management were just as vocal themselves. Another example, I remember a Wexford mate of mine going mad at the GAA for requesting Anthony Masterson to apologise to the ref in the Limerick match I mentioned above, for calling him the worst ref in the world in the post match interview. The same guy was calling for Cody to be fined/banned/apoligise for calling Barry Kelly's last minute free 'criminal' in the 2014 AI final. Don't mean to be picking on Wexford or anything, but it just echoed a lot of what I've observed since KK have become dominant. Lookit (Kilkenny) - Posts: 12 - 16/08/2016 22:58:32 1902072 Link 0 |
Not groundless at all. A Wexford poster, "Kilanerinfooty", obviously recalls the same post match interview: http://hoganstand.com/Wexford/MessagePage.aspx?PageNumber=3&TopicID=22054 Not that I give two hoots about Wexford fans booing frees, but the likes of Pinkie and yourself polishing your purple-and-gold halos, while tut-tutting those frightfully rude Kilkenny fans, is a bit hard to stomach. ballydalane (Kilkenny) - Posts: 1246 - 18/08/2016 00:08:08 1902547 Link 0 |