The first ever non provincial final, or all Ireland semi finals/ finals. Were screened in 91, so what did these people do prior to this? Unfortunately this is a example of the entitlement society that has crept into Ireland, I want it for free cause I'm entitled,
No your bloody well not, if you want it get in sky or whatever, not possible? Go to your local and support the local economy as well as your county, have a water with cordial, dont like that? Have tap water/coffee or just a cup of tea .
Cant get to your local? Turn on the radio, RTÉ radio not transmitting it? Your local radio station will, always transmit them. Or treat yourself and go to the match.
Apart from that ? Get a life and stop whinging about what you think someone or something owes you.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 03/08/2016 15:12:06    1894839

Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 9155 - 03/08/2016 15:50:17    1894872

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 03/08/2016 15:58:47    1894876

gotmilk (Fermanagh) - Posts: 4971 - 03/08/2016 16:02:53    1894881

Well I would agree with you somewhat about the entitlement culture. There is a bone-idle and thick element in Irish society who expect everything to be given to them. But in this context, I don't think it's the same thing. The quarter finals of the GAA's flagship championship competition (I include hurling in this) are big matches, regardless of who is involved. And in my opinion, should be broadcast free to air.

Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 9155 - 03/08/2016 16:25:09    1894909

And yes - hopefully we can just beat the bloody Dubs. At least this time I'll have more than a week's turnaround to get myself organised to get down to the match.

Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 9155 - 03/08/2016 16:26:32    1894910

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 03/08/2016 16:44:30    1894927

After 5 pages in this debate it's plain to see that those who have access to subscription TV don't mind GAA games being shown and those who don't have it want games shown on terrestrial TV, how do you resolve this? You can't, personally RTE TV coverage is poor, a bit of competition in rugby and soccer gave them a kick up the behind, I have nothing against Sky I don't have it and never watched any game on that station so I can't complain about their coverage as I know nothing about, I attend all Mayo matches but I do enjoy watching other county matches. GAA top brass claiming that supporters attend their own county games aren't too bothered about other counties and their matches is laughable, just shows how far removed they are from the rest of the GAA community. As far as I'm concerned TG4 are miles ahead of RTE. Games involving Leinster teams have a better chance of being watched by their supporters as coverage is good and subscription take up is high, in the west the same can't be said and a lot of people wouldn't spend the money on it as we barely are in the house anyway we are too busy and have better things to do than watch TV also internet as coverage is awful and slow so a lot don't have it, local radio is our best bet. Doesn't matter what our opinion is because Eir will have full broadcast rights to the champ and league and most of us will never see a game on TV again.
1 issue people haven't mentioned is match times or TV companies dictating what time matches are played. I remember years ago when 4 All Ireland semi finals were shown and the 2 finals football and hurling, if a game finished in a draw the replay wasn't televised, since RTE started showing more games in the 90s we have this situation where matches are played at 2pm and 4pm in 2 different venues so the TV could broadcast them, most games in earlier rounds could be played at 3.30pm and the TV companies decide which games to show, so what if 2 or 3 stations show different games at the same time.
I do always think back years ago when the England rugby team signed to have all their matches shown on Sky and some players were on a TV show, the presenter named the players and a small ripple of applause greeted the players, why? Nobody knew who they were, reminds me of something you would see on Fr Ted, the English rugby board had no choice but to go back to the BBC for the next contract

riverboys (Mayo) - Posts: 1389 - 03/08/2016 17:09:27    1894943

Ideally we could all get up in the morning and jump on a train or public bus and take a 15 min journey to Croke Park but most of us are a long way from a train station and whether its by train or car the journey will take 3 or 4 hours. Probably the best way to describe what rural people are going through in regards to subscription TV and they only showing games, imagine if you county was to play the All Ireland Final and the game was to be played on an island off the west coast with only the local island community radio station allowed to broadcast it, nobody outside the island can receive the frequency and no internet coverage from the station, only family of the players are allowed on the island to watch the final, no public so you will not get to see or hear your team winning or losing, how would you feel? You would be very angry, sounds like a daft scenario but this is roughly how people down here feel, poor train service, no public buses in some areas, by car it takes hours, if you have elderly people to look after or children or farming with livestock you can't just drop everything and head off to a game so local radio or terrestrial TV is our only way to catch the game while still at home minding our elderly, children or farms and doing our work. If you have time to go to the pub or local GAA grounds then you may as well go to the game. This is why there is so much uproar about these games and the coverage especially involving rural counties

riverboys (Mayo) - Posts: 1389 - 03/08/2016 17:26:32    1894953

jm25 (Galway) - Posts: 1166 - 03/08/2016 17:58:23    1894968

Wow, this is some grade A winging going on. To reiterate a few points already made.

A) Go to the game! It wont matter who is showing it if you go to support your team. Yes everybody has different circumstances that can prevent them from going but you would swear access to Sky TV is like searching for the Holy Grail. Plenty of ways getting around it.
B) Watch it online via a stream, just type "Dublin v Donegal live stream" into google and hey there it is, It will do the job if you cant leave the house for whatever reason. If you cant figure out how to stream a game or know someone who cant, ask for help from a friend or neighbor or relative.
C) Watch the game with a friend neighbor or relative who has sky.
D) Head down the pub, soak up the atmosphere, drink or don't drink who cares.
E) Buy the subscription for one month. If x and y circumstance wasn't preventing you from going to the game then a month subscription will cost the same (probably less) as the day out to Croke Park would have been.

If none of the above is available then guess what? Tough Luck. It is not a human right to be given access to watch a sports game from the comfort of your own home.

Antifa (Donegal) - Posts: 143 - 03/08/2016 18:10:45    1894974

jm25 (Galway) - Posts: 1166 - 03/08/2016 18:31:18    1894983

Got to agree with the 2 previous posters , its nit actually that much, plus sky are always doing a deal of some sort, I got a call in April, to upgrade (as I have done for past couple of years,) saying movies and sport for 3 month contract for additional 20 pm. I jumped at it, herself is happy with the movies bit and I get the championship games.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 03/08/2016 20:32:52    1895032

Midleton (Cork) - Posts: 643 - 03/08/2016 22:54:54    1895103

This was posted as a new thread but as the subject matter is the same it has been incorporated here.

GAA grab all association is d right name for them.Pauric Duffy speaks about looking after d association.first thing Pauric look after your member.How many people all over Ireland will not see these games o Saturday.They could b d best to game of d year and lot of our members will not get seeing themGAA has a lot answer for!
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Administrator (None) - Posts: 2274 - 04/08/2016 11:42:34    1895305

I love it. You get real and not overly negative coverage. The pundits aren't attention seekers trying to grab the biggest headlines.

The way I see it is the gaa wanted less games on TV to encourage more to go. Rte still have their big package but now sky do too. Meaning Irish in England and Northern Ireland get to see what they couldn't with tv3. Sky customers in the Republic get top quality coverage and at the same time it forces more to either go to the match or go to the pub.

Now if they're not arsed going to the match they'll probably go to the pub but that's their loss. The gaa shouldn't cater for these casuals anyway.

Hopefully sky make an even bigger bid and get it for another 3 years and the gaa get even more money.

Jack_Goff (Meath) - Posts: 2920 - 04/08/2016 15:33:34    1895615

alano12 (Dublin) - Posts: 2208 - 04/08/2016 16:01:47    1895671

After 5 pages in this debate it's plain to see that those who have access to subscription TV don't mind GAA games being shown and those who don't have it want games shown on terrestrial TV, how do you resolve this? You can't, personally RTE TV coverage is poor, a bit of competition in rugby and soccer gave them a kick up the behind, I have nothing against Sky I don't have it and never watched any game on that station so I can't complain about their coverage as I know nothing about, I attend all Mayo matches but I do enjoy watching other county matches. GAA top brass claiming that supporters attend their own county games aren't too bothered about other counties and their matches is laughable, just shows how far removed they are from the rest of the GAA community. As far as I'm concerned TG4 are miles ahead of RTE. Games involving Leinster teams have a better chance of being watched by their supporters as coverage is good and subscription take up is high, in the west the same can't be said and a lot of people wouldn't spend the money on it as we barely are in the house anyway we are too busy and have better things to do than watch TV also internet as coverage is awful and slow so a lot don't have it, local radio is our best bet. Doesn't matter what our opinion is because Eir will have full broadcast rights to the champ and league and most of us will never see a game on TV again.
riverboys (Mayo) - Posts:633 - 03/08/2016 17:09:27Jesus the way you are going on anyone who lives west of the Shannon is a bloody hillbilly with no internet and all that...
Having games on Sky isn't a departure away from "the rest of the GAA community"
1 issue people haven't mentioned is match times or TV companies dictating what time matches are played. I remember years ago when 4 All Ireland semi finals were shown and the 2 finals football and hurling, if a game finished in a draw the replay wasn't televised, since RTE started showing more games in the 90s we have this situation where matches are played at 2pm and 4pm in 2 different venues so the TV could broadcast them, most games in earlier rounds could be played at 3.30pm and the TV companies decide which games to show, so what if 2 or 3 stations show different games at the same time.
I do always think back years ago when the England rugby team signed to have all their matches shown on Sky and some players were on a TV show, the presenter named the players and a small ripple of applause greeted the players, why? Nobody knew who they were, reminds me of something you would see on Fr Ted, the English rugby board had no choice but to go back to the BBC for the next contract
riverboys (Mayo) - Posts:633 - 03/08/2016 17:09:27 The games shown at 2pm and 4pm in different venues have been games in different provinces and wouldn't be at the same time anyway. TV companies showing more than 1 game at a time doesn't help the GAA or customers. That wouldn't help anyone.

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 04/08/2016 17:11:32    1895752

Ideally we could all get up in the morning and jump on a train or public bus and take a 15 min journey to Croke Park but most of us are a long way from a train station and whether its by train or car the journey will take 3 or 4 hours. Probably the best way to describe what rural people are going through in regards to subscription TV and they only showing games, imagine if you county was to play the All Ireland Final and the game was to be played on an island off the west coast with only the local island community radio station allowed to broadcast it, nobody outside the island can receive the frequency and no internet coverage from the station, only family of the players are allowed on the island to watch the final, no public so you will not get to see or hear your team winning or losing, how would you feel? You would be very angry, sounds like a daft scenario but this is roughly how people down here feel, poor train service, no public buses in some areas, by car it takes hours, if you have elderly people to look after or children or farming with livestock you can't just drop everything and head off to a game so local radio or terrestrial TV is our only way to catch the game while still at home minding our elderly, children or farms and doing our work. If you have time to go to the pub or local GAA grounds then you may as well go to the game. This is why there is so much uproar about these games and the coverage especially involving rural counties riverboys (Mayo) - Posts:633 - 03/08/2016 17:26:32Don't be so dramatic.

Nobody said it was an issue of human right - don't be so dramatic. The question is whether the GAA are treating their supporters with proper respect and consideration and the answer to that is they are not. They have become absolutely detached from the grassroots of their own organization.
Midleton (Cork) - Posts:479 - 03/08/2016 22:54:54What is your alternate proposal then? The GAA isn't detached from the grassroots

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 04/08/2016 17:11:45    1895753

It will be interesting to see the viewing numbers for Sky. Biggest day of the year for the football championship not available to all not good for the game in my opinion.

wonit1time (Westmeath) - Posts: 450 - 05/08/2016 08:27:37    1896009