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The Sky deal yet again

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There are plenty of ways to see the games if you have Internet access and a computer, android tablet etc and are prepared for not as sharp quality (though get the right one and you are laughing). I got rid of Sky years ago and have got to see whichever sport I want, including the GAA, without having to leave the front door. Yes it's a bit crap that there will be ones who don't have access to the Internet but to anyone who does have access then there is no reason to give out as it's simple if you just bother yourself. Do your good deed too and invite those elderly neighbours around to watch it.

Offside_Rule (Antrim) - Posts: 4058 - 02/08/2016 18:05:02    1894193

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Replying To CroiGorm:  "What has last weekends attendance and availability of tickets got to do with this weekends games?"
the games were on sky...its part of the sky deal...the stadium was empty...all the sanctimony simply isnt genuine....its cheap and outdated...i didnt see you complaining about the sky deal when tipp beat cork and longford beat monaghan and neither of those counties supporters got to see the wins

alano12 (Dublin) - Posts: 2208 - 02/08/2016 18:23:37    1894202

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Replying To Green_Gold:  "Why can't the GAA have a deal with SKY were they show whatever games the like in the UK but RTE & TV3 battle it out for the TV rights in Ireland? The GAA shouldn't be about profit, it should be about participation.

I really enjoy the sky coverage myself and would love to see them continue showing matches but I think these kind of games should be available here on free-to-air. There are elderly people who can't go to pub and don't have Sky, not fair on them."
stop expecting to be receiving better treatment because you are lucky enough to be from what is currently a more successful team...most of your games are on tv so you should count yourself lucky

alano12 (Dublin) - Posts: 2208 - 02/08/2016 18:25:28    1894203

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To be fair to Sky they do pump millions into the game in Ireland. Also most pubs have it anyway which is great and encourages people to socialize which is good. A win win.

AfricanGael (UK) - Posts: 1947 - 02/08/2016 18:56:19    1894224

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Replying To alano12:  "stop expecting to be receiving better treatment because you are lucky enough to be from what is currently a more successful team...most of your games are on tv so you should count yourself lucky"
I don't get your point. I am not complaining that my team's games not being on free to air tv. I am saying that big matches (from quarter finals onwards) should be on free to air tv, regardless of what counties are involved. I go to my county's games and have Sky anyway but I am not selfish enough to be just thinking of myself. there are others who can't attend matches and don't have Sky. I just feel they should be able to view big games like this in their home.

Green_Gold (Donegal) - Posts: 1876 - 02/08/2016 19:05:17    1894231

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Replying To alano12:  "the games were on sky...its part of the sky deal...the stadium was empty...all the sanctimony simply isnt genuine....its cheap and outdated...i didnt see you complaining about the sky deal when tipp beat cork and longford beat monaghan and neither of those counties supporters got to see the wins"
I've not mentioned the Sky deal once Alan so I not surprised you've not heard me complain about it. I responded to your condescending comment telling people to 'go to the games' because not everyone can go to them or can get out down the local pub to watch it.

CroiGorm (Dublin) - Posts: 1547 - 02/08/2016 19:09:01    1894233

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Replying To AfricanGael:  "To be fair to Sky they do pump millions into the game in Ireland. Also most pubs have it anyway which is great and encourages people to socialize which is good. A win win."
I doubt very much that Sky pay the GAA "millions" for their games, but I'm open to being convinced. Can you post a link?

Midleton (Cork) - Posts: 643 - 02/08/2016 19:56:18    1894261

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Replying To jm25:  "no there encouraging people to bring their families to games and enjoy a day out and see the gaa live in the flesh as its the best way to watch a game and to get kids into the sport."
So rollup to Coke Park on Saturday with the family and get your tickets, is it. Do me a favour.

neverright (Roscommon) - Posts: 1648 - 02/08/2016 20:03:26    1894266

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Replying To Offside_Rule:  "There are plenty of ways to see the games if you have Internet access and a computer, android tablet etc and are prepared for not as sharp quality (though get the right one and you are laughing). I got rid of Sky years ago and have got to see whichever sport I want, including the GAA, without having to leave the front door. Yes it's a bit crap that there will be ones who don't have access to the Internet but to anyone who does have access then there is no reason to give out as it's simple if you just bother yourself. Do your good deed too and invite those elderly neighbours around to watch it."
Yeah pretty much... but I find hurling as the only sport where I need great quality picture in order to watch it, that small ball can be a pain to follow on poor quality streaming....

murrax (Wexford) - Posts: 90 - 02/08/2016 20:14:09    1894273

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Replying To Offside_Rule:  "There are plenty of ways to see the games if you have Internet access and a computer, android tablet etc and are prepared for not as sharp quality (though get the right one and you are laughing). I got rid of Sky years ago and have got to see whichever sport I want, including the GAA, without having to leave the front door. Yes it's a bit crap that there will be ones who don't have access to the Internet but to anyone who does have access then there is no reason to give out as it's simple if you just bother yourself. Do your good deed too and invite those elderly neighbours around to watch it."
Tell me how Offside. Would like to know.

neverright (Roscommon) - Posts: 1648 - 02/08/2016 20:39:33    1894287

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Replying To riverboys:  "As with every year we have the same issue of supporters not being able to watch their county team, do the GAA not realise that majority of this country do not have sky or are they too thick to see this, the idea of going to your local pub to watch is laughable, in a country of alcoholics we are asking people to go into rubs instead of getting out of them, also not every pub has sky and in some areas there isn't a pub due to lack of population in recent years. For Gods sake will the GAA have some cop on and give us back our games, subscription TV doesn't work in Ireland, people won't waste hard earned money on rubbish, they barely pay TV licence as it is. I know people who haven't been able to attend any championship games for a number of reasons and have only seen 1 Mayo game on TV that was on RTE, sky have shown 3 games and next sat will be game number 4. It's time the GAA realise that cities and major towns aren't the only people that watch and attend our games, we in rural Ireland have no voice on issues like this, it's plain to see why GAA clubs don't invite the hierarchy from croke park to open GAA grounds anymore, they at the top have lost touch with grassroots"
Agree 100% with this

county man (Limerick) - Posts: 1102 - 02/08/2016 20:40:38    1894288

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Replying To CroiGorm:  "I've not mentioned the Sky deal once Alan so I not surprised you've not heard me complain about it. I responded to your condescending comment telling people to 'go to the games' because not everyone can go to them or can get out down the local pub to watch it."
Rational people know the point you are making CroiGorm....

county man (Limerick) - Posts: 1102 - 02/08/2016 20:46:14    1894295

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Replying To CroiGorm:  "I've not mentioned the Sky deal once Alan so I not surprised you've not heard me complain about it. I responded to your condescending comment telling people to 'go to the games' because not everyone can go to them or can get out down the local pub to watch it."
the vast majority can go to games and can get access to them so spare me the poor mouthing....the stadiums are empty the majority of the time...what i was responding to was a dig against the sky deal...lots of games arent on tv so people should be grateful they are

alano12 (Dublin) - Posts: 2208 - 02/08/2016 20:50:00    1894298

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A sky sports subscription for a few months is not that expensive.

People are well able to piss their money away on numerous other non essentials and don't have a problem with it so why is it such a big imposition to pay for watching sport during the summer.

The GAA are charging people to go to matches and no one has a problem with it.

A small number of games are affected and it is necessary to have Sky and others on board as threat to RTE who's coverage is disgraceful.

They interrupt the half time of every match this summer to show Nuacht and News for the deaf, can you imagine them doing that with Rugby or Soccer.RTE don't really give a fiddlers and anything that threatens them is a good thing.

uibhfhaili1986 (Offaly) - Posts: 1296 - 02/08/2016 20:54:34    1894301

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Replying To alano12:  "the vast majority can go to games and can get access to them so spare me the poor mouthing....the stadiums are empty the majority of the time...what i was responding to was a dig against the sky deal...lots of games arent on tv so people should be grateful they are"
How the hell can you possibly know that the 'vast majority' can go to games or have access to them? Must be great to have no obstacles in life. We'll spare you the 'poor mouthing' when you learn to keep your condescending, holier than thou comments to yourself.

CroiGorm (Dublin) - Posts: 1547 - 02/08/2016 21:04:38    1894306

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Posters with Sky are being very patronising to those who, for one reason or another, don't have it. Are the GAA encouraging parents with children to go to pubs to watch games? Interesting!
neverright (Roscommon) - Posts:434 - 02/08/2016 17:31:28
I don't think people are being patronising at all and the GAA are not encouraging parents to go to pubs to watch games. A significant number of people are quite tech savvy and capable of finding ways to watch games from their computer without ever having a subscription to any channel.

Why can't the GAA have a deal with SKY were they show whatever games the like in the UK but RTE & TV3 battle it out for the TV rights in Ireland? The GAA shouldn't be about profit, it should be about participation.
I really enjoy the sky coverage myself and would love to see them continue showing matches but I think these kind of games should be available here on free-to-air. There are elderly people who can't go to pub and don't have Sky, not fair on them.
Green_Gold (Donegal) - Posts:250 - 02/08/2016 17:35:31
GAA is about participation but the best way to help participation is appropriate funding and the Sky deal helps that. The GAA wont make a deal with Sky like that as they wont make as much money. Sky in the irish tv market increases the income for the GAA which means more money is available to trickle down to every area of the GAA.

No it is not fair. I think all championship games should be televised, Longford v Monaghan should have been. I think you are missing the point though, should sky have exclusive access to the big games? It makes no difference to me as I go to all my county's games and have SKY tv but there are some folk who don't.
Green_Gold (Donegal) - Posts:250 - 02/08/2016 18:04:50
All games cant and shouldn't be televised. There isn't the demand. Sky have the right to some exclusivity or else why would they show games in the first place?
All championship games shouldn't be televised as that affects match attendances and therefore affects GAA income.

There are plenty of ways to see the games if you have Internet access and a computer, android tablet etc and are prepared for not as sharp quality (though get the right one and you are laughing). I got rid of Sky years ago and have got to see whichever sport I want, including the GAA, without having to leave the front door. Yes it's a bit crap that there will be ones who don't have access to the Internet but to anyone who does have access then there is no reason to give out as it's simple if you just bother yourself. Do your good deed too and invite those elderly neighbours around to watch it.
Offside_Rule (Antrim) - Posts:3023 - 02/08/2016 18:05:02
spot on.

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 02/08/2016 22:40:46    1894389

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I don't get your point. I am not complaining that my team's games not being on free to air tv. I am saying that big matches (from quarter finals onwards) should be on free to air tv, regardless of what counties are involved. I go to my county's games and have Sky anyway but I am not selfish enough to be just thinking of myself. there are others who can't attend matches and don't have Sky. I just feel they should be able to view big games like this in their home.
Green_Gold (Donegal) - Posts:250 - 02/08/2016 19:05:17
All games from quarters shouldn't have to be on free to air. As then why would any channel bid for rights if they cant show games like quarters. Only a very small number of games must be shown free to air and that shouldn't change
They interrupt the half time of every match this summer to show Nuacht and News for the deaf, can you imagine them doing that with Rugby or Soccer. RTE don't really give a fiddlers and anything that threatens them is a good thing.
uibhfhaili1986 (Offaly) - Posts:923 - 02/08/2016 20:54:34
Interrupting games for the Nuacht isn't an issue. When they've done that was that not when games were on RTE 1 and RTE are obliged to show the Nuacht so when else would you have them do it.
Anything that threatens RTE isn't a good thing as what guarantee there is enough interest outside them to provide the very extensive coverage they do provide?

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 02/08/2016 22:41:14    1894391

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Replying To CroiGorm:  "How the hell can you possibly know that the 'vast majority' can go to games or have access to them? Must be great to have no obstacles in life. We'll spare you the 'poor mouthing' when you learn to keep your condescending, holier than thou comments to yourself."
jesus you took this 1 very personally..so enlighten me how do you know they dont?..have you any statistics or facts to prove this?..what is your own opinion on the sky deal..the fact is the stadiums were empty and are mostly empty every week..the attendances have been pathetic outside of ulster so yes spare me the poor mouthing..the reality is people are simply not bothered in a lot of cases...yet they will all pipe up for the big occasion and start moaning when they dont get a ticket

alano12 (Dublin) - Posts: 2208 - 02/08/2016 23:21:54    1894410

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Replying To Green_Gold:  "I don't get your point. I am not complaining that my team's games not being on free to air tv. I am saying that big matches (from quarter finals onwards) should be on free to air tv, regardless of what counties are involved. I go to my county's games and have Sky anyway but I am not selfish enough to be just thinking of myself. there are others who can't attend matches and don't have Sky. I just feel they should be able to view big games like this in their home."
they can find another way to watch the games..these games can be streamed live...lots of games are not shown and you dont have anything to say about this..you should be grateful that sky are showing the games considering the respect rte have for them criticizing them every week

alano12 (Dublin) - Posts: 2208 - 02/08/2016 23:23:29    1894412

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Replying To CroiGorm:  "How the hell can you possibly know that the 'vast majority' can go to games or have access to them? Must be great to have no obstacles in life. We'll spare you the 'poor mouthing' when you learn to keep your condescending, holier than thou comments to yourself."
i am offering my opinion..you have yet to offer anything outside of trying to personally attack me..why are the stadiums empty and attendances down?..did somebody not get a ticket for saturday?

alano12 (Dublin) - Posts: 2208 - 02/08/2016 23:24:48    1894415

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