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Sounds like Diarmuid O'Connor is fit. Tips the balance back in favour of Mayo for me. roundball (Tipperary) - Posts: 2514 - 02/08/2016 18:47:25 1894217 Link 0 |
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A year ago , I would say Mayo but a bit of a shift since then. Tyrone done well in 2015 and look even stronger now. The opposite for Mayo who do not seem to be playing with the confidence of recent years. Tyrone to sneak it by a couple of points. poguemahone (Dublin) - Posts: 365 - 02/08/2016 18:57:27 1894226 Link 0 |
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I doubt Tyrone were favourites in 2013 were they? I thought that was an ordinary side that were lucky to make a semifinal and Mayo were seen as genuine All-Ireland contenders.
Soma (UK) - Posts: 2630 - 02/08/2016 19:09:35 1894234 Link 0 |
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Gleebo I'm a 1990 kid so I can't say I seen 1989, but give your lads credit for 2013. I seen someone say above they bottle every big matches, Tyrone put it up to them for the first half of that match, I think I remember the commentary at half time being along the lines of "is Mickey Harte about to pull off another shock" but Mayo grabbed it by the scruff of the neck and showed more of their quality in the second half. That said both teams have changed since then Seansy48 (Tyrone) - Posts: 237 - 02/08/2016 19:10:09 1894236 Link 0 |
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So far in the 2016 championship, Mayo have put together brief streaks of exciting and dynamic football. When they find their form, they can explode for scores in their bunches and seem almost unstoppable - until - they just stop. And, when the form goes, it goes. They suffer from really long stretches without scores (absent the odd COC free), and then the breakdown follows a familiar pattern: a frustrated AOS, flattened and overwhelmed by double and triple defenders, starts cribbing to the referee, Keegan gets chippy and dangerously flaunts with yellow/black/red cards, Boyle and Higgins try to play every position from the forwards to the backs until the tank is completely empty, and management - in desperation - throws in old stalwarts Moran and Dillon to stem the bleeding by adding experience and leadership. So, what's missing? Why does this happen? Why can't Mayo put together a solid, consistent performance from throw-in to final whistle? It's not because these players give up. Anyone who watches knows that they are trying hard. Is it: leadership on the pitch? Strategy? Tactics? Or, do we not have the depth of player talent that we thought we did? I just don't have the answers. DeelRoverFan (Mayo) - Posts: 5 - 02/08/2016 19:40:13 1894250 Link 3 |
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That about hits the nail on the head and it is quite puzzling why it happens? Needless to say I'll be hoping you continue doing it this weekend and hope that our young upstarts,coupled with a few old heads,can exploit it and get a win!! :)
seanie_boy (Tyrone) - Posts: 4235 - 03/08/2016 05:05:46 1894447 Link 0 |
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I think Mayo will just about scrape a win over Tyrone. Admittedly, Mayo have by no means had a strong year so far, with some fairly poor performances in comparison to previous years. They seem to me to be hiding in the long grass so to speak, and I'd say that they're perfectly happy to be under the radar and let people write them off, after all Mayo never perform when being hyped up, as we've witnessed for the last few years. I think they have the experience of grinding out as a result when needed and I can really see them stepping it up a few gears for Tyrone. If Diarmuid O'Connor is fit he will definitely give Mayo that drive which they seemed to be missing against Westmeath. Tyrone also gifted Cavan 5 goals between the original match and the replay in the Ulster semi-final, it would make you wonder if Mayo could really hurt their back-line. Going to be a very tight game though I think. heskey16 (Roscommon) - Posts: 1 - 03/08/2016 10:54:11 1894547 Link 1 |
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Not much to support this view but I think Mayo will beat Tyrone .I think Mayo have a performance in them and they have not performed this year. Barnowl94 (Galway) - Posts: 3150 - 03/08/2016 14:19:56 1894781 Link 0 |
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Whats a Div 1 side got to do with cship football?
tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 03/08/2016 14:32:29 1894798 Link 0 |
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I'm a bit surprised so many are going for Mayo as I thought everyone was jumping on the Tyrone media bandwagon. I've given my opinion on Tyrone long before now and despite Mayo being no where near their best I fully expect them to come alive in Croke Park and win this by a few points and possibly win the All Ireland as well. tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 03/08/2016 14:38:40 1894807 Link 0 |
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Surprised so many are going for us too. I have said my head say's Tyrone based on performances this year but since I have a feeling we we will do it. (maybe heart over head). By the looks people are basing a Mayo win that we perform which is how I would see it....will we is another story. It's up to the players now and has Rochford a trick or two up his sleeve? yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11236 - 03/08/2016 14:51:19 1894818 Link 0 |
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I agree with you almost 100% apart from I don't think this Tyrone team will win an All Ireland, they will be fighting for Ulster titles though, I think we almost gifted the Ulster final to them with RG's stupid tactics, but anyway what's done is done, I fancy Mayo to win the All Ireland this year, some might think that's crazy but if they get momentum going and build up a head of steam heading into the final they'd have a great chance against anybody. TirChonaillabu2 (Donegal) - Posts: 344 - 03/08/2016 15:12:19 1894841 Link 0 |
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What swings this for me, is the amount of times Mayo players take a ball into contact. The O'Sheas in particular are the all-too-frequent culprits. Tyrone prosper on scoring from turnovers when the strip the ball from a player who has gone into contact. If Mayo play their runner game, they have a solid chance. Try to break tackles, and I fear their goose is cooked. 26/27 Degrees on forecast for Saturday in Croker is not gonna be good for any player not at their peak - could this be a factor? Jaden (Dublin) - Posts: 139 - 03/08/2016 15:13:46 1894843 Link 0 |
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I agree with you there Jaden. The short turnaround for Mayo plus the forecast temperatures mean that Rochford must get our substitution strategy spot on to keep us fresh. I felt he was very slow making changes in the second half against Westmeath even though they were clearly all over us. As good as Andy Moran was in the 1st half, he tired in the 2nd and was left on 10 minutes too long. We just can't afford that this weekend. I'm surprised so many are tipping us to win. Hopefully ye're right!! MayoDan (Mayo) - Posts: 420 - 03/08/2016 15:37:28 1894863 Link 1 |
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We weren't favourites at all in 2013 in fact Mayo were favourites for Sam after their loss to Donegal and the way they came back at them! Thomas Niblock's article about the match gave me a real buzz at the time so I searched for it there http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/gaelic-games/23843200 It seems the man was right, even if it took 3 years Seansy48 (Tyrone) - Posts: 237 - 03/08/2016 15:40:37 1894864 Link 0 |
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Donegal didn't turn up hahahahha, they were ahead at 71 mins played remember. People just decide the truth, it's bloody ridiculous Seansy48 (Tyrone) - Posts: 237 - 03/08/2016 15:43:13 1894865 Link 0 |
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Tyrone should win, not because they have better players but because they are better managed. The problem for Mayo over the last few years is that while they have had teams capable of winning at least one and probably two All-Irelands, they have been totally mismanaged. James Horan could be classed as a good manager but on the big days his decisions may have cost Mayo dearly. AfricanGael (UK) - Posts: 1947 - 03/08/2016 16:04:18 1894883 Link 0 |
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I really don't think they're uncoachable although maybe they just aren't as good as we let on they are, great teams win with no excuses. Last year their management was mental frankly, they must have seen Donaghy come on in the semi the year before and make a mess of them pitching high balls back around the square. They employ that tactic and it works wonders against lesser teams with bad full back lines i.e. pasting Sligo in the Connaught final, personally I sat in the house that day and said to myself 6-25 is great but O Shea will never get that space against other teams and he didn't. So they beat Donegal with similar tactics although I must say they used the high ball alot more effectively than in their semi final encounter with the Dubs. The sheer amount of spoiled possession in both of those games by Mayo is baffling, after day 1 i'd have thought they'd have realised it wasn't as effective but no both days they set out their stall with the high ball into O Shea and at some point in the 2nd half when behind realise they're behind and start to use their running game more. To me that's a management issue and a group of players trusting in their manager, personally I know what it feels like trying to trust in your coach out of respect and doubting his tactics and approach simultaneously it's an unenviable situation for the player but the player always seems to get the blame as they're using their free time to coach, as though the player isn't doing the same thing to play. To me the Mayo players didn't lose that management team their jobs, not adjusting after the 1st semi against Dublin did! Seansy48 (Tyrone) - Posts: 237 - 03/08/2016 16:21:55 1894905 Link 0 |
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That's exactly my point though! They didnt turn up yet could have won with more composure. YET, Tyrone are tipped as challengers to Dublin
tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 03/08/2016 16:22:05 1894906 Link 0 |
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I didn't say they would win in the next 3 years, I said they will challenge so we are kind of in agreement!
tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 03/08/2016 16:23:40 1894907 Link 0 |