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Yeah it's been a sh1te day - I may have inadvertently confused you with a small band of Down fans who are infecting these forums with a dislike verging on hatred of everything Ulster esp Tyrone and an undying love of the Kingdom and any county who stand in the way of a successful Ulster county. If you are not part of this sub culture you have my deepest apologies. I for one do not have reciprocal feelings towards Doen - in fact I was a big fan of them when they're were in their pomp - so have to deny that allegation :-)
IrishGael3 (USA) - Posts: 1092 - 01/08/2016 23:45:16 1893833 Link 1 |
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The bottom line is that this is an ailing, ageing Mayo side that has crumbled in EVERY major game that has mattered over the past 5 years or so. They have been very, very poor this year and they are they are there for the taking if Tyrone have serious ambitions. Fermanagh should have beaten them apart from dreadful refereeing decisions. There are NO excuses here for Tyrone; Kerry and Dublin would dispatch this Mayo side by 7/8 points+. It's up to Tyrone. Ulsterman (Antrim) - Posts: 9706 - 02/08/2016 01:43:15 1893848 Link 0 |
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I'm going for Tyrone here just on the back of their tactical discipline and their dedication to their game plan. Mayo struggle with teams who are so rigid. Mayo look to be just going with the flow in games, letting individual players take on the responsibility for the whole team. So much depends on what Aidan O'Se can offer in this game. If he's left up front on his own relying only on long balls into him, then I think Tyrone are on their way to the semi. Mayo's greatest strength in previous seasons was the speed at which their half backs would push up on the counter. keithlemon (Australia) - Posts: 920 - 02/08/2016 09:47:27 1893877 Link 0 |
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You are indeed very correct in your summary but its exactly these reasons that make Mayo dangerous. They are going into this game as perceived underdogs (however I don't believe they are) and with nothing to lose. These players are great footballers and were only been a kick of the ball away of beating the Dubs last year and they haven't turned into poor footballers overnight. Granted their tactics are all over the place and its this I believe is their problem. A few tweaks here and they will cause Tyrone all sorts of problems but will 6 days allow them to do this or should the manager tell them forget formations and sweepers and just go out and enjoy themselves - this I believe should be their tactic. With respect to Tyrone they have had a few weeks of planning under them and with no disrespect to Westmeath it was Mayo they were planning for. Donnelly has been cleared fit from concussion at a club game so they will have no excuses. I just hope we are not talking about the referee after the game because that has been going on too much during the championship this year.
IrishGael3 (USA) - Posts: 1092 - 02/08/2016 10:08:36 1893887 Link 0 |
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Punishment? You haven't even played a division 1 side yet, whereas we've already had to beat two of them. Mayo have had a very handy run through the qualifiers, and the Westmeath match really was over at half-time, so no huge energy expended. Freshness won't be an issue in this game. Thomas Clarke (Tyrone) - Posts: 1002 - 02/08/2016 10:10:14 1893888 Link 0 |
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EVERY game? Come on man take off your Ulster blinkers. This Mayo team have won big important games. Also you might want to check the age's of the Mayo player and see what the age profile is. Tyrone are rightly favourities but no need to be sticking the boot into Mayo before the game is even played....no doubt you will be doing that along with other's when the game is over, assuming Tyrone win but it is not a forgone conclusion.
yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11236 - 02/08/2016 10:15:18 1893891 Link 1 |
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Of course you are bitter its laughable. at least most of the Down supporters have ad the sense to know other ulster supporters are on to them at this stage and stop trying to drive the boot in. And for the record I have nothing against down supporters but they are a bitter and jealous crowd! Does saying "and for the record I have nothing against....." here absolve me? You are as clear as day. And for the record, imo, if both teams play as they have done Tyrone will win. If Tyrone get ahead early Tyrone will win, but Mayo could do as tyrone have done in the past and spring a surprise but they will really really have to show something which lets be honest they haven't this year. Anyway 3 greats sets of supporters and the Dubs should make for a great night in Croker and not a DOWN man in sight as they will have their Dub or mayo shirt on! Heres to an Ulster 1,2! redhanddefender (Tyrone) - Posts: 913 - 02/08/2016 10:17:05 1893893 Link 0 |
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You could be right IrishGael, sometimes teams who are too rigid in their game plan can get found out by the pure chances that teams might capitalise on. If Mayo were going into this game in the same shape that they did Donegal or Dublin last year I'd fancy them. They haven't become bad footballers over night but I haven't seen much intensity or that will to do anything for the win that they've shown in previous seasons. keithlemon (Australia) - Posts: 920 - 02/08/2016 11:32:26 1893944 Link 0 |
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This game was/is massive but let's be honest after the Galway Tipp result it's gotten even bigger with the winners playing Tipp in the semi's. clondalkindub (Dublin) - Posts: 9926 - 02/08/2016 11:45:07 1893953 Link 0 |
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Mayo playing at their full potential would have too much for Tyrone at their full potential, in my opinion. The drawn semi-final between Mayo and Dublin last year proved that both of those teams have probably the finest, most physically imposing athletes in Gaelic football. It was ferocious, hard-hitting, 100 mile an hour stuff that the vast majority of teams in the country would have trouble keeping pace with. Tyrone would have been eaten alive in such a match. If Mayo find that kind of intensity again, Tyrone would be out muscled. The problem for Mayo is that they don't seem to have found that form this year so far and teams are starting to smell blood. Tyrone will come into this thinking they can win this (rightly so) and I'm sure Mickey Harte has already pinpointed vulnerabilities in the Mayo set up. Mayo will need to find serious form from somewhere if they're going to put it up to Tyrone.
ZeitChrist (UK) - Posts: 154 - 02/08/2016 13:29:36 1894015 Link 0 |
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i think people dont realise how much it appears tyrone have improved this year
alano12 (Dublin) - Posts: 2208 - 02/08/2016 14:31:27 1894041 Link 0 |
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We will soon find out - I agree Tyrone have improved but there are so many variables on the day including the referee and his black card and that could be the difference between two well matched sides. Let's hope it's a full on contest allowed to flow. Tyrone are favourites at bookies but Mayo are no slouches but feel they need to change their current style to challenge Tyrone who are much more rehearsed and used to that type of football.
IrishGael3 (USA) - Posts: 1092 - 02/08/2016 15:40:24 1894092 Link 0 |
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The only one coming across as bitter is you, and it's clear for all to see, therefore I don't feel the need to highlight it anymore. However, many of your posts are littered with sweeping generalisations. Your last post is the perfect example; 'most Down supporters...', 'Down supporters are a bitter and jealous crowd'. Then again, if the redhanddefender says so, it must be true. The fountain of all knowledge. '3 great sets of supporters and the Dubs'. This is all absolute nonsense. The Dubs have some of the most knowledgeable, polite and friendly supporters in the country. As for my bitterness and jealousy for Tyrone. This morning I sorted out my friend from Omagh with a ticket for Saturday, he finding it hard to get one. Bitter and jealous, eh? MourneArmy (Down) - Posts: 1787 - 02/08/2016 16:05:26 1894111 Link 1 |
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You'd have to go for Tyrone in this one. Ah_Here (Mayo) - Posts: 42 - 02/08/2016 16:19:28 1894121 Link 0 |
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I'll never get the bogey team thing, that conclusion has to be based on one win i.e. 2004 Tyrone beat Mayo in 2008 en route to Sam Those same Tyrone players beat those Mayo players at underage level at every turn, they just happened to have their day in the sun in 2004....end of the day they were a very bloody talented team and they should have won at least 1 All Ireland Seansy48 (Tyrone) - Posts: 237 - 02/08/2016 17:18:25 1894154 Link 0 |
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Like most posters, I'm sure, I would always support my own provential team. However I have worries about Mayo. They are lucky to get this far in the back-door but they must still have a big game in them. Tyrone struggled to get past Donegal, so both teams have question marks against them. It could be very tight and come to the decision making on the line. That would concern me as Harte is a very experienced and wily customer who reads the game well and is prepared to act quickly and decisively. Nothing that Rochford has said or done so far engenders any great confidence in his ability at this level. McAntee is a shrewd operator but does not seem to be given the opportunity to contribute on match day. neverright (Roscommon) - Posts: 1648 - 02/08/2016 17:20:15 1894157 Link 1 |
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Not sitting on the fence but honestly cant split these two , Tyrone more impressive marginally but Mayo some seasoned quality campaigners who contrary to popular belief wont bottle this one , its a coin flip and I wont be rushing to the bookies to give away my hard earned winnings from the weekend , nope cant call it , wont call it, who do I want to win ? Tyrone , couldn't do with listening to the Master if we beat them again. Damothedub (Dublin) - Posts: 5193 - 02/08/2016 17:27:12 1894164 Link 0 |
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Mayo did beat Tyrone in both minor and senior grades in 2013, as well as in senior back in 1989. Hard to see the same thing happening at the weekend though, too many star performers are misfiring at the moment for Mayo. Gleebo (Mayo) - Posts: 2208 - 02/08/2016 17:44:44 1894180 Link 0 |
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Wow what a hero. I have a down man half my sandwich in work today. Aren't I great. I'm sure you wouldn't have went any way because of the awful football so alien to the beautiful way down play the game. You lot are easy to read. Getting the dig it in ASR any other Ulster country which starts to threaten their glorious record. I couldn't care less about down. I killed their teams of old buy I am just pointing out a common trait of most of their fans on this. Enjoy the game! redhanddefender (Tyrone) - Posts: 913 - 02/08/2016 18:19:21 1894200 Link 0 |
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Don't think bogey team is the right term since Mayo were a good outfit but they have a history of beating Tyrone in big championship matches in 89, 04 and 13 all years when Tyrone went in as favourites and to some extent underestimated Mayo because it wasn't Kerry/Dublin. Hope it doesn't happen this time. tyroneed (Tyrone) - Posts: 753 - 02/08/2016 18:35:10 1894210 Link 0 |