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poguemahone, first off, Peader Andrews!!! That's a shocking slip there mate. But in regards to the points you make, you're right about how the other teams deal with their own kickouts and how their FB line works when pressed on. If you go back to the All Ireland final last year, there was a lot of talk about how Kerry would deal with Cluxton's kick outs. But as it turned out, Kerry struggled more with their own kickouts on the day. Dublin's midfield and front players did serious damage to Kerry from their kickout with Fenton and Connolly winning a lot of balls there while Dublin broke even for the most part from their own kick out. Donegal are a different animal though. They'll probably let Dublin have their own kickout and will compete for any 50/50's put into the midfield. I expect Dublin to push up on the Donegal kickout but I'd still expect Donegal to retain enough from this regardless. Maybe Dublin have the patience to break down mass defences but that patience would ebb away if they were chasing a lead. JayP, you're spot on there. There are a lot of 'if's' in my assessment of how things 'might' go but it was very much the same in 2014, a lot of if's just went Donegal's way. According to McGuinness it was all part of his master plan though!! On paper I think Dublin should win, they're the best team in the country when in full flow. I think if they get an early goal it could be a bad day at the office for Donegal. But, it's these kind of matches when I think Dublin are vulnerable and you just don't know how they'll react if the bounce of the ball goes against them. keithlemon (Australia) - Posts: 920 - 02/08/2016 16:07:58 1894114 Link
Replying To legendzxix: "Au contraire Rodders! We're having a few years on the quiet side having neglected our youth and all that. Sure we all know the 4 Regions aren't any better than '05 to '09. Mayo And Donegal's inability so far to offer much of a challenge is surprising. Mayo don't have the qualities of old Galway teams. Donegal haven't had the quality of old Tyrone teams. Tyrone might be on the way back. Mickey Harte might have a team capable of back-to-back titles if they get near the levels of '03 to '09 as there's noone else on or near that level." You can't genuinely believe that the Dublin team from 05-09 were as good as this current team? Wow that's a stupid statement even for this website! How many players from then would get into this team? With the exception of the players that span both teams, Ciarán Whelan maybe, although as every country poster told us at the time he was massiely over rated. Also why do you only refer to Dublin as a region? Why not include other counties that are broken into different civil administrations? MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13718 - 02/08/2016 16:17:34 1894120 Link
Replying To MesAmis: "You can't genuinely believe that the Dublin team from 05-09 were as good as this current team? Wow that's a stupid statement even for this website! How many players from then would get into this team? With the exception of the players that span both teams, Ciarán Whelan maybe, although as every country poster told us at the time he was massiely over rated. Also why do you only refer to Dublin as a region? Why not include other counties that are broken into different civil administrations?" Because MesAmi.......thats his thing. He thinks the "Dublin Region", now 4 Regions thing is funny. He thinks he sounds cool. He thinks hes getting under our skin. And he is. Well done Legendz..... you have the measure of us Dubs! Good man. JayP (Dublin) - Posts: 1772 - 02/08/2016 17:15:10 1894151 Link
Replying To keithlemon: "poguemahone, first off, Peader Andrews!!! That's a shocking slip there mate. But in regards to the points you make, you're right about how the other teams deal with their own kickouts and how their FB line works when pressed on. If you go back to the All Ireland final last year, there was a lot of talk about how Kerry would deal with Cluxton's kick outs. But as it turned out, Kerry struggled more with their own kickouts on the day. Dublin's midfield and front players did serious damage to Kerry from their kickout with Fenton and Connolly winning a lot of balls there while Dublin broke even for the most part from their own kick out. Donegal are a different animal though. They'll probably let Dublin have their own kickout and will compete for any 50/50's put into the midfield. I expect Dublin to push up on the Donegal kickout but I'd still expect Donegal to retain enough from this regardless. Maybe Dublin have the patience to break down mass defences but that patience would ebb away if they were chasing a lead. JayP, you're spot on there. There are a lot of 'if's' in my assessment of how things 'might' go but it was very much the same in 2014, a lot of if's just went Donegal's way. According to McGuinness it was all part of his master plan though!! On paper I think Dublin should win, they're the best team in the country when in full flow. I think if they get an early goal it could be a bad day at the office for Donegal. But, it's these kind of matches when I think Dublin are vulnerable and you just don't know how they'll react if the bounce of the ball goes against them." Dublin are less vulnerable to a ball going against them than any other team out there just now. Maybe going back to the past but not this current squad. In trouble in 2013 v Kerry and even more so last year in the Mayo replay but they held it together to turn those big games around. You have to respect that Donegal are a tough game for anyone, including Dublin. However I expect Dublin to have enough to deal with the various scenarios that may go against them over the 70 odd minutes. poguemahone (Dublin) - Posts: 365 - 02/08/2016 18:52:59 1894221 Link
Replying To greatpoint: "It's not quite as easy to notch up multiple All-Irelands when Ulster teams don't have the luxury of playing Clare twice and Tipperary once to get into an All-Ireland semi-final." Thats true..how many all irelands have kerry won over the years with soft draws to the final.id say well over 20 anyway.. GGdub (Dublin) - Posts: 260 - 02/08/2016 19:43:42 1894255 Link
Replying To JayP: "Obsessed with Regions that lad is." Ha..he has to be a copper.. talking regions every post.. metropolitan region pal 'and dont you forget it.. GGdub (Dublin) - Posts: 260 - 02/08/2016 19:48:35 1894257 Link
What about the ladies Not alone are our men coming after Dublin on Sat night our ladies are coming after their mots as well We will have some craic with the dubs over the next few weeks. SamOnErrigal (Donegal) - Posts: 1427 - 02/08/2016 22:04:15 1894350 Link
What a year of amazing sporting results. Leicester winning the league. Portugal winning the euros. Iceland and Wales and their runs in the euros. Dundalk qualifying for the champions league Tipperary getting to an all Ireland semi final Longford beating Monaghan in Clones. Galway beating Mayo in Castlebar.. Can Dublin add to that list by beating the mighty Donegal ? :D Its getting closer. #UpTheDubs #NothingIsImpossible waynoI (Dublin) - Posts: 13650 - 02/08/2016 22:19:32 1894364 Link
I have strong opinions on Michael Murphy's form but if they play him midfield for any length of time they will be over run. Simply have to leave him at full forward and if he can't do it there then take him off tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 03/08/2016 08:44:02 1894468 Link
mccarthy has been confirmed as available for saturday for dublin heresam (Dublin) - Posts: 156 - 03/08/2016 10:35:30 1894526 Link
Gavin has confirmed that James McCarthy is back fully fit for Saturday. Great news! CroiGorm (Dublin) - Posts: 1547 - 03/08/2016 10:41:25 1894533 Link
Great news. Roll on Saturday two great games in store and a great night out after (if we win of course). I take it with the late throw in a lot of Donegal with young families won't be travelling that's a shame and not right. clondalkindub (Dublin) - Posts: 9926 - 03/08/2016 11:03:39 1894558 Link
Replying To clondalkindub: "Great news. Roll on Saturday two great games in store and a great night out after (if we win of course). I take it with the late throw in a lot of Donegal with young families won't be travelling that's a shame and not right." Yeah I can't get to this one and have had a good moan about the Sky coverage on another thread. Fantastic day's football in store on Saturday. I just hope my Mobrdo app and Wifi stay strong! Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 9155 - 03/08/2016 11:10:30 1894570 Link
McCarthy back is a huge lift for the Dubs. I can see him picking up Murphy now and he's done a good job on him in the past. Then again I don't think Michael is fit enough this year to be out around the middle. We should have brought Neil Gallagher to Lourdes this week! Such a pity the big man hasn't been fit this year at all. If he was going well it would free up Murphy to head inside and do some real damage to Dublin's FB line. Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 9155 - 03/08/2016 11:31:48 1894588 Link
tickets on sale now heresam (Dublin) - Posts: 156 - 03/08/2016 11:37:41 1894595 Link
Donegal outplayed dublin 2014, it was superb stuff and full credit to them. Yet dublin scored 17 points and missed two reasonable goal chances. They were naive in their defending but also in this game dublin cleaned donegal on kickouts. It took some wonderful donegal defence/stopping to break up the dublin kick out. Anyway the past is the past. Who do I fancy saturday? Dublin to win. Why? -Ciaran Kilkenny is back didnt play in 2014, usually worth 2-3 points and a real big asset for dublin. He was colossal in games v mayo/kerry last year -Dublin have a balance of defense and attack two years on which is very solid i.e cian o sullivan role. -Donegal panel is not as strong as dublins, mannion, andrews huge boost for dubs. - No Neil Gallagher who had a huge role in 2014 dismantling of dubs - I suspect the winning of this game for dublin will be counteracting mc hughs & mc brearty, I think Jim Gavin will do this - M Murphy hasnt played well for donegal in two seasons, apart from free kicks. If hes injured he shouldnt be playing. Donegal need him on song to have a chance, ATM he isnt. - Dublin have been waiting on this game, they have had 3 weeks to get right for it, 7 days for donegal, it took 3 weeks and a specialized training camp in 2014 for Jim Mc Guiness to beat dublin. All in all, I feel dublin have been waiting all season for august, they won leinster in 3rd gear, I really feel they will beat donegal by 3-6 points on saturday Should be a cracker 222 (UK) - Posts: 695 - 03/08/2016 13:03:28 1894702 Link
Havent been overly impressed with Dublin to date. Id have predicted Donegal but for the 6 day turnaround think that will take its toll Brianmac78 (Dublin) - Posts: 1168 - 03/08/2016 13:26:03 1894729 Link
Replying To heresam: "tickets on sale now" Good man...got some for the Nally. poguemahone (Dublin) - Posts: 365 - 03/08/2016 13:57:28 1894751 Link
BrianMac78 your entitled to your opinion but why have you not been impressed with Dublin this season? It's practically the exact same season as this time last year, what haven't they done not to impress you? We're unbeaten in league and championship and pretty much played the exact same way as last year, that doesn't mean we can't lose Saturday but right now it's impossible not to be impressed by Dublin this season. clondalkindub (Dublin) - Posts: 9926 - 03/08/2016 14:02:09 1894757 Link
I still don't think McCarthy will play on Saturday, Gavin chooses his words well, "he's fit for selection", doesn't necessarily mean he is or isn't playing These are the games where some of the younger players need to get some game time anyway. Lowndes hasn't shown the promise he had as an u21 yet so maybe this is the right kind of game for him to get some big game experience. Small would be a fairly decent replacement for McCarthy anyway, he's big, strong and athletic, maybe he could do the man marking job on Murphy that a lot of people expected McCarthy to do. keithlemon (Australia) - Posts: 920 - 03/08/2016 14:05:13 1894761 Link