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you werent a great team that year...down were an ordinary side who caught kerry on the day..look at who down faced in the semi. cork who were out of sorts that year turned it on for a half and beat down...it was a very poor championship
alano12 (Dublin) - Posts: 2208 - 27/07/2016 14:57:21 1890986 Link 0 |
its not easier..you have to beat more teams...you had a much easier route to the final in the old system a lot of the years...for years connaught and ulster were poor so any year the dubs or kerry played them it was fairly straight forward getting to the final
alano12 (Dublin) - Posts: 2208 - 27/07/2016 14:58:33 1890987 Link 0 |
God almighty plenty of luck! People are outrageous, Tyrone of the 2000s are surely the most unfortunate team of recent times. He was more than just a great captain he was the leader, the heart beat and he galvanised an already very talented Tyrone team, you have to bare in mind he was preferred to Dooher as great a captain as Dooher was , 3 All Irelands but I know alot of Tyrone fans will be wondering forever how many we'd have had the events of March 2nd 2004 not happened Seansy48 (Tyrone) - Posts: 237 - 27/07/2016 14:59:09 1890988 Link 0 |
No we didn't we had very hard routes to winning both All Irelands. Our route in 1991 was Armagh, Derry (twice) Donegal, Kerry, Meath. 1994 All Ireland Champions Derry in their own backyard, Monaghan, Tyrone, Cork, Dublin at Croke Park??? How were they easy routes??? Derry were brilliant, Donegal All Ireland Champions 92, Tyrone All Ireland finalists 1995, Meath had a super side, Dublin excellent in that period. Kerry not vintage but with their tradition, Armagh is a local derby for us etc. The teams Tyrone lost to in the 03-08 period its fairly plausible they could have slipped up against many of those sides. REDANDBLACK30 (Down) - Posts: 1617 - 27/07/2016 16:41:04 1891060 Link 0 |
I said we weren't a great team but we had some very good players that year. We got a bit of luck along the way but to say we didn't play great against Kerry in that match is nonsense. We raised our game to beat a Kerry side that was an all time great side. They were missing a few players but they still had Cooper, Donaghy et al. If Kerry had played poorly you would have an argument but they didn't they had goal chances etc in an end to end game. REDANDBLACK30 (Down) - Posts: 1617 - 27/07/2016 17:07:58 1891079 Link 0 |
Under the old system you had to peak every given day. The qualifiers provided a much easier route to final like for ourselves in 2010. They provided a get out of jail free card. With the lack of strength in depth in the 2000s it was a fairly straightforward run to the quarter finals. REDANDBLACK30 (Down) - Posts: 1617 - 27/07/2016 17:21:04 1891093 Link 0 |
Down deserve huge credit for breaking the mould in 1991, as them winning that All Ireland made Donegal believe they were good enough to push on 1992, and likewise for Ourselves in 1993, before Down took another one in 1994. GaryMc82 (Derry) - Posts: 3017 - 27/07/2016 17:32:40 1891101 Link 0 |
wishfulthinkin (Cavan) - Posts: 1681 - 27/07/2016 17:32:54 1891102 Link 0 |
Antrim hurlers might be included in this as well. They caused a few shocks back in the day and all from a very small group to work with. Dubh_linn (Dublin) - Posts: 2312 - 27/07/2016 17:54:17 1891109 Link 0 |
Would i be wrong in thinking the best top 5 ulster forwards in the last 30 years would be ! WhyTheLongFace (Meath) - Posts: 876 - 27/07/2016 17:57:38 1891114 Link 0 |
If there had been a qualifier system in that period Down and Derry would have been there or thereabouts every year. Use were our most feared opponent in those years. REDANDBLACK30 (Down) - Posts: 1617 - 27/07/2016 18:01:32 1891116 Link 1 |
Seriously?? In his four years Pillars team didnt beat a single decent team team. Not one. To say they were very competitive is absolute nonsense. As for suggesting they could have won an All Ireland...laughable. you really are clutching at straws here bad.monkey (USA) - Posts: 4624 - 27/07/2016 18:04:15 1891117 Link 1 |
Muldoon has to be up there
DoireCityFC (Derry) - Posts: 1580 - 27/07/2016 18:52:18 1891137 Link 0 |
Muldoon the Zlatan ibrahimovic of Gaa :) P Bradley is actually the top scoring forward in Ulster football ! WhyTheLongFace (Meath) - Posts: 876 - 27/07/2016 19:19:58 1891158 Link 0 |
If there had been a qualifier system in that period Down GaryMc82 (Derry) - Posts: 3017 - 27/07/2016 20:51:31 1891209 Link 0 |
I think in years to come, we'll really appreciate even more some of these teams mentioned. I think probably biggest underachievers have to be that fantastic Armagh outfit (they had everything) and of course ourselves. Should have at least featured in an AI Final over last 5 years!!! Brolly (Monaghan) - Posts: 4472 - 27/07/2016 21:03:03 1891216 Link 0 |
The pre and post qualifiers argument is so stupid. Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts: 4226 - 27/07/2016 21:23:01 1891224 Link 0 |
You could pick any five but would Aidrean Sweeney and Tony Boyle not get a look in and all
SamOnErrigal (Donegal) - Posts: 1427 - 27/07/2016 21:27:26 1891227 Link 0 |
Peter Cavanagh was a great one... remind me again, who did he play for ?
s goldrick (Cavan) - Posts: 5518 - 27/07/2016 21:40:05 1891231 Link 0 |
Our best players won't commit to playing for us at the minute so its an uphill struggle for us to compete now. REDANDBLACK30 (Down) - Posts: 1617 - 27/07/2016 21:43:42 1891239 Link 0 |