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The main thing that needs to change ? Mentality

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Yes Dublin have the right maintality along with many other side.Is that simple enough for you.Again it is vital is the point and imo ahead of many of the other reasons that are first rolled out.
It goes from players to management to county board and all have to play their part.

Dubh_linn (Dublin) - Posts: 2312 - 02/07/2016 11:48:26    1874968

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Replying To Naysayer:  "This thread is really about suggesting the reason Dublin are dominant right now is because they have a top mentality while others do not have the same mentality and instead are trying to roll out sad excuses for not being at that level. If they would stop crying and get their mentality sorted then they would stand an equal chance of success. Self indulgent bullshit if you ask me .

A debate about mentality would have everyone agreeing that to be winners you need a strong mentality. In fact one of the things Dublin have addressed in recent years is their mentality. It helped getting the monkey off their back lifting their first All Ireland in years and I always felt that when they got one they would start adding more rapidly. If anything they had been massively under achieving for too long.

If the absence of a correct mentality is what is causing you to under achieve then addressing that will cure your problem but if you have not got the correct structures, lack talent, lack funding etc then addressing your mentality, while helpful, is unlikely to see you lift an All Ireland in September."
Well said

Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts: 4226 - 02/07/2016 13:35:41    1874994

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Replying To Dubh_linn:  "Yes Dublin have the right maintality along with many other side.Is that simple enough for you.Again it is vital is the point and imo ahead of many of the other reasons that are first rolled out.
It goes from players to management to county board and all have to play their part."
Fair enough, we are all entitled to call it as we see it. I just think that right now there is a lot that needs addressing throughout the country with the majority of provincial championships being too predictable for a while now. We moan about the style of play many teams are bringing to the table without acknowledging that maybe to have any level of competitiveness this is the road these teams have had to go down to give them a chance. With the population of Dublin and the tradition in Kerry these sides are always going to be thereabouts but at the same time there are counties that need a complete overhaul and years of work to be competing in what is getting closer and closer to a professional game among the elite and this requires resource.

Naysayer (Antrim) - Posts: 2071 - 02/07/2016 13:38:15    1874997

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Dubh_linn

In international soccer the gap between the strong and lesser teams is a lot lower as there are all professional teams with excellent support staffs etc The bigger FA's aren't like clubs who have essentially infinite budgets to use.

Look at the Spanish, French, German leagues all have dominating teams because they have a monopoly on resources in relative terms to its competitors similar to what is happening now in football here.

KYTitletown (Kerry) - Posts: 816 - 02/07/2016 13:41:07    1874999

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Dublin have the players simple, but that is not enough the old saying still rings true, "Hard work will never beat talent if talent works hard" It actually requires hardwork but you have to have the players first to begin with.

arock (Dublin) - Posts: 4896 - 02/07/2016 13:42:11    1875000

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Replying To Naysayer:  "Fair enough, we are all entitled to call it as we see it. I just think that right now there is a lot that needs addressing throughout the country with the majority of provincial championships being too predictable for a while now. We moan about the style of play many teams are bringing to the table without acknowledging that maybe to have any level of competitiveness this is the road these teams have had to go down to give them a chance. With the population of Dublin and the tradition in Kerry these sides are always going to be thereabouts but at the same time there are counties that need a complete overhaul and years of work to be competing in what is getting closer and closer to a professional game among the elite and this requires resource."
Yes people moan about styles of play and are entitled to have an opinion if they are contributing and attending games and in many cases they are right . However , an example of a team with a clear change of maintality from top down I'd Donegal.Yes people moaned about it being dreadful to watch when it was at it crudes but the real change was that they completely altered the way they approached the challenge.They were known as party boy no hopers for years and that was good enough.
Not in the recent past though as this would no longer be tolerated.That is a obvious a case as I can think of in terms of changing the maintality and in doing g so changing the expectations.
No,it's not all about Dublin and that's not the basis of what I am trying to get accross. It is only my opinion so no you do not have to agree.

Dubh_linn (Dublin) - Posts: 2312 - 02/07/2016 14:29:19    1875010

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Replying To KYTitletown:  "Dubh_linn

In international soccer the gap between the strong and lesser teams is a lot lower as there are all professional teams with excellent support staffs etc The bigger FA's aren't like clubs who have essentially infinite budgets to use.

Look at the Spanish, French, German leagues all have dominating teams because they have a monopoly on resources in relative terms to its competitors similar to what is happening now in football here."
You're gone off subject there again pal.I don't think we are on the same page here at all.

Dubh_linn (Dublin) - Posts: 2312 - 02/07/2016 14:30:44    1875012

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Replying To Naysayer:  "This thread is really about suggesting the reason Dublin are dominant right now is because they have a top mentality while others do not have the same mentality and instead are trying to roll out sad excuses for not being at that level. If they would stop crying and get their mentality sorted then they would stand an equal chance of success. Self indulgent bullshit if you ask me .

A debate about mentality would have everyone agreeing that to be winners you need a strong mentality. In fact one of the things Dublin have addressed in recent years is their mentality. It helped getting the monkey off their back lifting their first All Ireland in years and I always felt that when they got one they would start adding more rapidly. If anything they had been massively under achieving for too long.

If the absence of a correct mentality is what is causing you to under achieve then addressing that will cure your problem but if you have not got the correct structures, lack talent, lack funding etc then addressing your mentality, while helpful, is unlikely to see you lift an All Ireland in September."
Summed up nicely

seadog54 (Meath) - Posts: 2142 - 02/07/2016 15:17:09    1875026

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The main thing that needs to change ? Mentality????

One lucky Irish person has won the €23.84m Euromillions jackpot last...wonder was it a Dublin man ! i also wonder does his poor wife have the right Mentality to go to the Bahamas with him to spend all his lovely money! its your fault you got old looking :)

WhyTheLongFace (Meath) - Posts: 876 - 02/07/2016 16:43:59    1875051

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