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Replying To Kurt_Angle: "So if the GAA showed those games instead of the two games they directly clash with (Cork vs. Dublin and the Leinster hurling final) which have been scheduled since before the drawn games, they would have regard for those who cannot go to matches (the terminally ill, the sick, the elderly etc.)? I believe no thought has gone into your post." They could make an exception and allow BBC to show them live - can't imagine it'd be contentious with RTE considering they are two non-scheduled games. cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 5018 - 30/06/2016 16:29:12 1874352 Link
Hoping for Cavan to cause a shock! _Tribesman_ (Galway) - Posts: 47 - 30/06/2016 16:40:06 1874360 Link
Hoping for Cavan to cause a shock! _Tribesman_ (Galway) - Posts: 47 - 30/06/2016 16:40:12 1874362 Link
Replying To Kurt_Angle: "So if the GAA showed those games instead of the two games they directly clash with (Cork vs. Dublin and the Leinster hurling final) which have been scheduled since before the drawn games, they would have regard for those who cannot go to matches (the terminally ill, the sick, the elderly etc.)? I believe no thought has gone into your post." A lot of thought has gone into it. There's TG4, there's BBC, I am sure that they would have no problem showing it live. I am not expecting the GAA to cut off other games to show it on RTE but all TVs have got the other two stations also. It's only Sky that limits the number of people who can view it. border Gael (Monaghan) - Posts: 894 - 30/06/2016 16:50:54 1874376 Link
I think it will take a few tweeks throughout the season to get the best team but I certainly think Tyrone's line-out for Sunday is stronger than that that started the last day. Hopefully with the introduction of Morgan and McCurry our free taking conversion rate improves. This is something that would cause concern at the moment. Byanthon (Tyrone) - Posts: 1780 - 01/07/2016 09:49:00 1874537 Link
Replying To border Gael: " Replying To Kurt_Angle: "So if the GAA showed those games instead of the two games they directly clash with (Cork vs. Dublin and the Leinster hurling final) which have been scheduled since before the drawn games, they would have regard for those who cannot go to matches (the terminally ill, the sick, the elderly etc.)? I believe no thought has gone into your post." A lot of thought has gone into it. There's TG4, there's BBC, I am sure that they would have no problem showing it live. I am not expecting the GAA to cut off other games to show it on RTE but all TVs have got the other two stations also. It's only Sky that limits the number of people who can view it." I would have to disagree. Sky are showing the Cork v Dublin game and I think under the terms of the agreement, no competing GAA games can be shown at the same time. While I'm not 100% sure of this, it would only make sense from Sky's point of view and I doubt they'd enter the market without such a condition in place. I'd imagine this would also cover broadcasting rights to the BBC and TG4 as well. Even if the BBC were allowed to show this, would they really spend the money on sending down an OBU to Cavan when they know this has relatively limited local appeal and will clash with the Germany v Italy game as well as Wimbledon coverage? I don't think TG4 has the rights but even if they did would they also have the budget to cover this, knowing what its competing with? Also, TG4 is not that widely available in Northern Ireland so they would have a much smaller audience to cater to. For Sunday, the Tyrone v Cavan game clashes with the Leinster hurling final. Obviously this will take precedence. There's no way TG4 will clash with this, even if it didn't already clash with their Tour de France coverage. BBC are covering Wimbledon all day. There's 10 senior football and hurling games on this weekend (and some U21's too). Four of these are being shown by RTE / Sky. There will always be games that can't / won't be shown and disappointed viewers, as a result. Kurt_Angle (Dublin) - Posts: 567 - 01/07/2016 12:07:47 1874615 Link
Morgan and McCurry are two credible replacements. I'd be worried that if we shoot like we did the last day then we could be in trouble. On the positive side, we have found a way to get through the Tyrone defence without being shut out by Colm Cavanagh and others. We will need to bring plenty of variety and I think that is what got us a reply in the end - a little bit of invention (pass from Mackey along the ground). I have said that I believe that Cavan will come through and i am not going to change my mind now. We need this win so badly and if we get it then it could change the mindset of the players and management for the years ahead! Reformation (Cavan) - Posts: 356 - 01/07/2016 12:13:22 1874621 Link
Replying To Reformation: "Morgan and McCurry are two credible replacements. I'd be worried that if we shoot like we did the last day then we could be in trouble. On the positive side, we have found a way to get through the Tyrone defence without being shut out by Colm Cavanagh and others. We will need to bring plenty of variety and I think that is what got us a reply in the end - a little bit of invention (pass from Mackey along the ground). I have said that I believe that Cavan will come through and i am not going to change my mind now. We need this win so badly and if we get it then it could change the mindset of the players and management for the years ahead!" Look it'll probably be a controversial point but I have to say I love this mentality! Everyone in the country likes to say Tyrone weren't what we were in the 2000s prior to a match and then pretend Tyrone are the same team after/if they beat us I don't see how this works at all, it's one way or the other. You've referred to it as a win you "need" JMcG talks in his book about how their 2011 Semi win was a win they "needed". The most senior man on the Monaghan team that beat Tyrone in the Ulster semi in 2014 i.e. Dick Clerkin cried his eyes out on the pitch after the win So my question is how can we be endlessly slated by everyone with an opinion whilst also being a yardstick for Ulster teams and others to measure themselves against? Seansy48 (Tyrone) - Posts: 237 - 01/07/2016 14:53:06 1874699 Link
Replying To Seansy48: "Look it'll probably be a controversial point but I have to say I love this mentality! Everyone in the country likes to say Tyrone weren't what we were in the 2000s prior to a match and then pretend Tyrone are the same team after/if they beat us I don't see how this works at all, it's one way or the other. You've referred to it as a win you "need" JMcG talks in his book about how their 2011 Semi win was a win they "needed". The most senior man on the Monaghan team that beat Tyrone in the Ulster semi in 2014 i.e. Dick Clerkin cried his eyes out on the pitch after the win So my question is how can we be endlessly slated by everyone with an opinion whilst also being a yardstick for Ulster teams and others to measure themselves against?" seany, you have to understand that we havn't beaten Tyrone at Senior level since way back in '83. This would be massive for us. We have been beaten by ye 2 or 3 times already this year. We haven't been to an Ulster final in yonks . You have to imagine the confidence that beating Tyrone (a resurgent Tyrone) would give the team not to mention the lift it would give the whole county. It's not some local bragging rights we are talking about here , it's a major event for Cavan, It's a measure of our progression. s goldrick (Cavan) - Posts: 5518 - 01/07/2016 15:08:33 1874711 Link
Replying To s goldrick: "seany, you have to understand that we havn't beaten Tyrone at Senior level since way back in '83. This would be massive for us. We have been beaten by ye 2 or 3 times already this year. We haven't been to an Ulster final in yonks . You have to imagine the confidence that beating Tyrone (a resurgent Tyrone) would give the team not to mention the lift it would give the whole county. It's not some local bragging rights we are talking about here , it's a major event for Cavan, It's a measure of our progression." See I have no issue with that and to be honest I have no issue with Cavan wanting to knock 7 shades out of Tyrone on Sunday. It's the fans of bigger teams (individuals not county groups) who come into threads like this one just to undermine Tyrone, they'll cut us anyway they can....after we beat Derry it was our tackling in question. We draw with Cavan and nobodys wining about us anymore. It's almost like some of the more successful counties worried, complained and then decided we weren't up to winning an AI anymore because of one match. Maybe i'm paranoid but that's just what i've seen! I just see it as we're a big team and a big scalp or we're not, we can't be both and neither at the same time in order to suit the building of credentials of another team, to me that's mad altogether Seansy48 (Tyrone) - Posts: 237 - 01/07/2016 16:16:41 1874753 Link
I still think Tyrone should win narrowly especially if the rain stays away. However Cavan keep getting better every game they play. From a Tyrone point of view, I guess Mickey O Neill had to go after the three goals. Morgan a good keeper but his freetaking is erratic. As for the other Edendork man, I see him as a character who will score plenty when you are well ahead but if its close he could miss more than he hits. Also a dodgy freetaker. BIG SACKS (Tyrone) - Posts: 1681 - 01/07/2016 16:40:11 1874765 Link
I fancy Tyrone on the basis that they don't generally lose replays( championship and in general) in my memory any ways. Some one might have stats on this. Would love to see a Monaghan Cavan final. Imagine the banter Frederick (Louth) - Posts: 479 - 01/07/2016 16:46:05 1874772 Link
Tyrone should win. Big Sacks both Edendork men are indeed iffy free takers but they are also probably our best options for long range frees. Morgan's kickouts should be a strength. Cavan were very good the last day on tackling and on their kickouts. Presumably Tyrone will have some change in mind there. tyroneed (Tyrone) - Posts: 753 - 01/07/2016 18:05:47 1874811 Link
Tyrone will win I think eventho I went for Cavan last week. I don't get how anyone are rating tyrone as all Ireland contenders however tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 01/07/2016 23:49:22 1874888 Link
If Tyrone can prevent Cavan scoring goal's, I think they will win this by 6 or 7 points. GaryMc82 (Derry) - Posts: 3017 - 02/07/2016 13:49:01 1875002 Link
Replying To tiobraid: "Tyrone will win I think eventho I went for Cavan last week. I don't get how anyone are rating tyrone as all Ireland contenders however" I agree. Think Tyrone might edge this but have no idea why they were built up to be a team to take on Dublin. Still a team in progress. Being critical they have no reliable free takers, and too many of the players are not tough enough to dig out wins in the final moments of a game, exception being Peter harte, Mattie donnelly and a few others. kevin03 (Tyrone) - Posts: 276 - 02/07/2016 23:15:12 1875202 Link
Replying To kevin03: "I agree. Think Tyrone might edge this but have no idea why they were built up to be a team to take on Dublin. Still a team in progress. Being critical they have no reliable free takers, and too many of the players are not tough enough to dig out wins in the final moments of a game, exception being Peter harte, Mattie donnelly and a few others." Well lads i think Tyrone are certainly showing they are contenders today. seanie_boy (Tyrone) - Posts: 4235 - 03/07/2016 17:35:13 1875486 Link
Replying To seanie_boy: "Well lads i think Tyrone are certainly showing they are contenders today." Can't wait for the excuses now, they'll be good. 5-18 in an Ulster championship match is just crazy. Seansy48 (Tyrone) - Posts: 237 - 03/07/2016 17:39:10 1875487 Link
Replying To seanie_boy: "Well lads i think Tyrone are certainly showing they are contenders today." They were always gonna win the replay.A bit of a reality check for Cavan today,but 5-18 in a game like that is very impressive from Tyrone. ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 03/07/2016 17:41:13 1875490 Link
Replying To seanie_boy: "Well lads i think Tyrone are certainly showing they are contenders today." No mistake today, I think they can have a good go at the Ulster title against Donegal. thelongridge (Offaly) - Posts: 1751 - 03/07/2016 17:44:51 1875497 Link