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The treatment of the players has to match the money going into the game. I was in O'Neills yesterday and the place was packed and not just Dublin fans, the game in a lot of ways has never been more popular. TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4445 - 30/05/2016 14:13:09 1859959 Link 1 |
Players have the power. They are not 'indentured slaves' as Brolly said in another recent outburst. Players who are enjoying the game continue to play it, those who don't walk away. It has always been the same. It doesn't matter at what level you play at, it isn't fun if you are not competitive and continually losing. Media pundits and sportswriters continually bang on about how poor our games are and how the fun has gone out of them. You are made to feel like some kind of oddball if you disagree. I certainly don't get any fun out of watching our paid football pundits using the games to push their own agendas and ride their particular hobby horses to death. If they are paid to analyse the game being shown then let them get on and do it in a professional manner. If, on the other hand, they are simply paid to entertain us, they would need to up their game big-time. Roll on the summer and enjoy all that is good about the games. neverright (Roscommon) - Posts: 1648 - 30/05/2016 15:24:21 1859996 Link 1 |
Brolly does have a point to a degree. ifindoubt (Donegal) - Posts: 133 - 30/05/2016 15:53:17 1860019 Link 0 |
The Championship formula leads to multiple mismatches of Div 1 v Div 4 etc. If this was soccer we would see "park the bus" defending for similar match ups in differences of quality. The is no fun for Sligo conceding 6-25 against Mayo in last year's Connacht final either so teams need to have structure. Coaching gets a bad rap for why the game isn't fun from Joe Brolly. Over coaching isn't necessarily good coaching for sure, good coach's will trust their players as individuals within a system. I find Brolly praises top teams for their systems but criticises small teams for trying a system of play, he can't have it both ways. mayoman007 (Mayo) - Posts: 159 - 30/05/2016 16:34:30 1860040 Link 0 |
I don't like Brolly. Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts: 4236 - 30/05/2016 16:35:12 1860041 Link 1 |
I don't think the fun has gone out of the game , I do believe its short lived and its not just at county level its at club level , Our club captain basically retired at age 27 , Im seeing more and more lads opt for our Junior A side as the demands are less , they love the game but the commitment to playing to a high standard in Dublin Club football is savage . Damothedub (Dublin) - Posts: 5193 - 31/05/2016 13:18:37 1860237 Link 0 |
Young lads know what's coming down the line if they want to commit to inter-county football. It's their choice from now on. If you're not interested in a win at all costs regime, don't bother seems to be the message. KerryKillers (Dublin) - Posts: 711 - 31/05/2016 15:49:36 1860307 Link 0 |
I agree, I am involved in management at club level and I am probably expecting too much at times as well but everyone is trying to keep up with everyone else, it is hard to shout stop! TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 7907 - 31/05/2016 16:16:19 1860321 Link 0 |
Young lads know what's coming down the line if they want to commit to inter-county football. It's their choice from now on. If you're not interested in a win at all costs regime, don't bother seems to be the message. Damothedub (Dublin) - Posts: 5193 - 31/05/2016 16:51:13 1860337 Link 0 |
Yeh Damo, I hear you, approaching minor when they get to thinking about leaving school and social life etc is what I would be implying.
KerryKillers (Dublin) - Posts: 711 - 31/05/2016 18:06:47 1860351 Link 0 |
Gaelic football can only be played by a certain elite now like rugby before it turned professional years ago..in other words people who work decent hours and dont have to exert themselves to much during the day! WhyTheLongFace (Meath) - Posts: 876 - 31/05/2016 19:07:18 1860361 Link 0 |
I don't know how many of the posters on here play football (I'm certain none of them play county football, they wouldn't have the time to post), so I'm not sure how they can speak for the footballer, particularly the county footballer. neverright (Roscommon) - Posts: 1648 - 31/05/2016 20:01:56 1860373 Link 0 |
I retired at 29 after 14 years of club football (mostly junior). It became a chore and required far, far too much commitment required. I miss playing, but the rest?? No. Brolly (Monaghan) - Posts: 4472 - 31/05/2016 20:45:53 1860385 Link 0 |
you are right- very few on here play intercounty football or hurling I would imagine. bennybunny (Cork) - Posts: 3917 - 31/05/2016 21:06:11 1860391 Link 0 |
No footballer is really going to stand up and complain about it...years ago during holy week nobody ever stood up in a chapel and said they were bored stiff and everybody was bored stiff including the priest ! Players are afraid to stand up and say what they think because they feel they are letting the manger down..the team down..the fans down and there families down! It's torture dressed as fun for gaelic footballer now..gaelic football for most of its life was a game to be enjoyed a get away from work and problems of everyday life..so you went training and played football to clear the mind and enjoy the break...now as a footballer you go to work and come home and pay the bills to get away from the torture of football ! WhyTheLongFace (Meath) - Posts: 876 - 31/05/2016 21:33:24 1860396 Link 0 |
Training for the 1966 hurling All Ireland consisted of pucking the ball around for an hour...jogging around the Old Athletic Grounds....doing a few leapfrogging routines...joking around with the trainer (Tough Barry). A few pints didn't come amiss also. Rockies (Cork) - Posts: 947 - 01/06/2016 10:13:59 1860437 Link 1 |
The whole thing is based on here say and rumour, managers get players to do ever increasingly insane amounts of training because x, y and z are doing it. I remember my school hurling team won the mageean, the coaches had them in at 7 in the morning before school running around doing cardio because they'd heard thats what Kierans' and Flannans' and the like do. Took a hiding in the croke cup semis to boot so didn't really pay off. duckula20 (Antrim) - Posts: 175 - 01/06/2016 10:41:58 1860447 Link 0 |
If players aren't happy to commit why do they not walk away and just play club ? Then things will change . Its pretty obvious why they stay . Money. Finsceal (None) - Posts: 559 - 01/06/2016 11:07:46 1860455 Link 0 |
Why the long face Damothedub (Dublin) - Posts: 5193 - 01/06/2016 11:12:35 1860460 Link 0 |
Why anyone would imagine that county championship football should be "fun" is beyond me. MuckrossHead (Donegal) - Posts: 5028 - 01/06/2016 11:34:48 1860467 Link 1 |