legendzxix please could you stop referring to Dublin as Dublin region.

The championship needs a radical overhaul and not simply a small addressing/change and that's inspite of Tipp getting to a first all Ireland semi since the 1930s

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 01/08/2016 14:45:05    1893530

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 01/08/2016 20:29:58    1893740

"There's never this uproar about games being played in less than half full thurles in the Munster hurling championship or the all ireland hurling quarter finals.
They got 31 thousand at the hurling quarter finals in thurles and 29 thousand in croker yesterday for the football equivalent it's almost identical so what's the big furore about.
if anything the hurling quarter finals being played in thurles was more a stickler for having to play that double header in thurles year in year out as you had a perfect opportunity to play wexford v Waterford in nowlan park that would have drawn over 20 thousand and far more easily accessible for wexford supporters, then you had both Galway and Clare having to drive through limerick and another hour to thurles when you could have played that game in limerick and got 20thousand again and far less travelling for both sets of supporters
hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts:10880 - 01/08/2016 11:25:52 A large proportion of Galway supporters wouldn't be driving through Limerick to go to Thurles and same for quite a few Clare supporters"
Oh there's no need to be so precise man your such a stickler for having to pull people on the smallest things. You know what I ment that it was far easier for all concerned to play on the Ennis road in limerick than thurles
hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts:10882 - 01/08/2016 20:29:58I am not at all being a stickler by pointing out that a lot of Galway and Clare supporters will not have to drive through Limerick to get to Thurles. Many in Broadford, Portumna, Scarriff, Loughrea etc will not drive through Limerick to go to Thurles.
Pointing that out isn't being a stickler and pulling up on a small thing.

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 01/08/2016 21:28:47    1893766

you know full well i was pointing out that the game could have been played in limerick to save almost every supporter from both counties an hour of an added journey to thurles. the fact that a motorway serves limerick from galway city and runs through the heart of clare was what i was pointing out. can you not just agree it would made a lot easier to travel to limerick for both sets than thurles man

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 02/08/2016 10:49:11    1893915

you know full well i was pointing out that the game could have been played in limerick to save almost every supporter from both counties an hour of an added journey to thurles. the fact that a motorway serves limerick from galway city and runs through the heart of clare was what i was pointing out. can you not just agree it would made a lot easier to travel to limerick for both sets than thurles man
hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts:10883 - 02/08/2016 10:49:11But for a large number of supporters from both counties Thurles is very near and a perfect location.

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 02/08/2016 12:27:47    1893975

I see an article on main page saying Football attendances are way down despite replays this year compared to 5 years ago and its a constant trend.

Whilst everyone wants to go to the high profile Dublin v Kerry-Mayo or maybe Tyrone semi finals or finals but is the stance of players " we are not there to Entertain" and other negative boring defence handpassing games turning many punters away?? Yes I think

Also this year Clare and Tipperary made breakthroughs but they cant attract big followings in their own counties??

Then again when only 300 people watched Cork City match & 500 Watched Dundalk Game last Monday night in LOI climax to season we're not doing too bad.

hurler32 (Limerick) - Posts: 867 - 20/10/2016 11:36:54    1927818

Only for the four replays in the f'ball C'ship this year attendances would be further down. Firstly the standard of fare on offer is shocking as Gaelic football is a bore to watch now, the standard of officiating by ref, linesmen & umpires is appalling. Match day tickets if a family goes is very expensive, add in €5 for a programme that has no relavence to the wY the team lines out & you have the main reasons attendances are down. Compared to rugby there is nothing done to promote games & often no traffic management plans in place in towns that get gridlocked. The Gaa put very average work into games for supporters, the most important point for them is the money. Ever since the TV rights money, everything revolves around TV & the players, supporters are an after thought, the GPA knew to link their deal with commercial Gaa revenue. In my opinion there is a direct link between falling attendances & lack of club games in the Smer for club players. Club players become totally disillusioned & this leads to a couldn't care less attitude to Gaa & whether to bother, so some go play other sports & watching them ( very evident in Connacht rugby matches where many previously staunch Gaa heads now go) & due to the lax approach & attitude to clubs & club players. Last year I gave away over 2000 match programmes from games I attended over the last five decades. If I got a free ticket now to a game I wouldn't bother going, the Gaa has lost its purpose & for many people like me who spent their lives totally involved in it, it's no longer enjoyable watching games or being involved in the politics of it. The attendances might be dropping alarmingly but their revenue is increasing & for the GAA & GPA this is all that matters.

moc.dna (Galway) - Posts: 1212 - 20/10/2016 12:41:13    1927847

realman2 (Kildare) - Posts: 464 - 20/10/2016 13:25:45    1927862

the ticket prices can be a bit high. That said the mainstream Media also are to blame with their constant complaining about Gaelic football.

galwayford (Galway) - Posts: 2520 - 20/10/2016 13:34:58    1927869

Whilst everyone wants to go to the high profile Dublin v Kerry-Mayo or maybe Tyrone semi finals or finals but is the stance of players " we are not there to Entertain" and other negative boring defence handpassing games turning many punters away?? Yes I think

That's harsh enough considering Ulster Football has the biggest attendances in the provincials where a lot of stadiums sell out.
Its the availablity to watch games on tv coupled with the cost of going to games that is why people cant go.

dstuction (Donegal) - Posts: 1209 - 20/10/2016 13:38:30    1927871

galwayford (Galway) - Posts: 2520 - 20/10/2016 13:40:05    1927874

I think there are a number of key factors at play here.

Firstly, the economic downturn particularly in rural counties has hit really hard and hasn't received the same type of recovery that the Dublin region has.

Secondly, the product itself most Football games today are defensive minded, riddleed with hand-passingand with strong streaks of cynicism involved which isn't attractive to people and families to watch.

Dublin dominance is another key factor particularly with regard to Leinster Champ attendances which have absolutely plummeted in the 15 year timeframe. Why bother go to a Leinster game when the outcome of the whole competition is decided before a ball is kicked. This trend is already occurring and will continue to happen in the AI Series if this predictable dominance continues on the national stage over the next decade and beyond.

HurlingWarrior (Limerick) - Posts: 61 - 20/10/2016 13:43:09    1927878

Have the GAA created a monster in Dublin ? Kilmacud Crokes one of a number of Dublin Clubs that have a bigger turnover than a number of county boards . I'd say 30-40% of people in Dublin( 300-400,000 people) have some GAA connection compared to about 10% or less twenty years ago.
Every school in Dublin has one or two or three as good as Full Time GAA coachs visiting every week . Numbers, Structures & a winning county team is the machine. Maybe Leinster Council & GAA might get Meath, Kildare somewhere up to this structure in the coming 10 years and maybe louth?.. and Kerry , Mayo, Donegal tyrone may hang in there due to huge tradition & passion .
Whilst the media might go on too much about it...there is no doubt the average Joe soap in counties not playing has lost interest due to the way Gaelic Football has gone be that defensive set ups , handpassing etc .
Finally outside of the greater Dublin area money is still very tight and no recovery is evident despite what the fat cats in Fine Gael Think.

hurler32 (Limerick) - Posts: 867 - 20/10/2016 14:56:57    1927903

bennybunny (Cork) - Posts: 3917 - 20/10/2016 14:59:45    1927904

bloodyban (Limerick) - Posts: 1710 - 20/10/2016 15:08:22    1927907

The GAA should consider investing in Wexford GAA or maybe Kildare. 2 counties with growing populations. Leinster football is the reason for the low crowds. A campaign is needed to improve it. Invest in Wexford or Kildare GAA is part of the answer.
Lower ticket prices is the other. slán agus beannacht libh go léir.

galwayford (Galway) - Posts: 2520 - 20/10/2016 15:12:35    1927909

Breffni40 (Cavan) - Posts: 12120 - 20/10/2016 15:32:35    1927913

alano12 (Dublin) - Posts: 2208 - 20/10/2016 16:01:54    1927919

Have the GAA created a monster in Dublin ? Kilmacud Crokes one of a number of Dublin Clubs that have a bigger turnover than a number of county boards . I'd say 30-40% of people in Dublin( 300-400,000 people) have some GAA connection compared to about 10% or less twenty years ago.
Every school in Dublin has one or two or three as good as Full Time GAA coachs visiting every week . Numbers, Structures & a winning county team is the machine. Maybe Leinster Council & GAA might get Meath, Kildare somewhere up to this structure in the coming 10 years and maybe louth?.. and Kerry , Mayo, Donegal tyrone may hang in there due to huge tradition & passion .
Whilst the media might go on too much about it...there is no doubt the average Joe soap in counties not playing has lost interest due to the way Gaelic Football has gone be that defensive set ups , handpassing etc .
Finally outside of the greater Dublin area money is still very tight and no recovery is evident despite what the fat cats in Fine Gael Think.

hurler32 (Limerick) - Posts:726 - 20/10/2016 14:56:57

Whatever about the rest of your post the highlighted piece above is nowhere near true.

There are a lot of schools in Dublin ;)

Most Primary Schools in Dublin will have one Games Promotion Officer visit one class group (maybe two) for a 5/6 week period meaning most kids will get GAA coaching in schools from a GPO once (maybe twice) for 5/6 weeks during their 8 years in Primary. For your assertion to be true there would need to be thousands of Games Promotion Officers in Dublin.

The majority of GAA coaching in schools in Dublin is done by teachers volunteering after school. Same as everywhere else.

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13717 - 20/10/2016 16:10:56    1927922

moc.dna (Galway) - Posts: 1212 - 20/10/2016 21:14:34    1928004