TheHermit, Dublin six finals in a row 1974 to 1979, a record I believe!

sligo joe (Dublin) - Posts: 684 - 23/11/2015 13:02:35    1809228

Is it true that the football title has only been retained once in the last 25 years and it was Kerry who did it?

I'd give the Dubs a fair chance of retaining it. Even if they have 4 or 5 retirements they seem to be poised to cope with all of that. Would love to see Limerick win it, but failing that a relatively new champion might open the sport up a bit. If someone outside of Kerry/Donegal/Dublin was to win it, new life would be breathed into the competition, which to be fair has gone stale.

slayer (Limerick) - Posts: 6480 - 23/11/2015 15:10:00    1809272

Sligo Joe, I'm afraid that's only a shared record with the Kerry team who also managed 6 finals in a row between 2004 and 2009.

They were a fine team though, from what I ever saw of them in the Kerry's Golden Years Video.

I'm sure plenty of Dubs are whiling away the winter arguing which side was the better produced by the capital - Heffo's team of the 1970s of the 3 All Ireland in 5 years team of today.

For consistency I suppose you'd have to opt for the 1970s side at the minute.

TheHermit (Kerry) - Posts: 6354 - 23/11/2015 15:38:59    1809282

For those of us who only get to see Heffo's 70's team on video it is very difficult to say which team was better.If the current team can add another one,or two All Irelands,before the decade is out,it would be hard to argue against them.Where todays team trumps the 70's is in our duals with the Kingdom.This team just doesn't do losing to the old enemy.The Hill has never had so much pleasure watching us consistently beat the green & gold.Please God these sunny days in the capital are hear to stay,for another while at least.

cuederocket (Dublin) - Posts: 5084 - 23/11/2015 16:30:15    1809288

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For those of us who only get to see Heffo's 70's team on video it is very difficult to say which team was better.If the current team can add another one,or two All Irelands,before the decade is out,it would be hard to argue against them.Where todays team trumps the 70's is in our duals with the Kingdom.This team just doesn't do losing to the old enemy.The Hill has never had so much pleasure watching us consistently beat the green & gold.Please God these sunny days in the capital are hear to stay,for another while at least.

Easy choice for me. Just watch archive footage and imagine the dublin team playing against them. There would be only one winner.

I would say that the dublin team of the 70s won 3 all irelands, and beat kerry in a semi final to boot in 1977 so they had a mighty team. (beating kerry in one of the finals also).
Have dublin not won 3 all irelands already this decade? They have 4 years to go one better. I feel they will. They played a lot more games against much better teams in this decade. I dont think that building up to knock this outfit down is going to make one bit of difference to their mentality. They are here to stay for the next few years and will be the ultimate benchmark for a team who wants to win the all ireland, as all others in the field have not shown the same consistency this decade.

Donegalman (None) - Posts: 3830 - 23/11/2015 16:49:30    1809294

The advantage Heffo's team had,which can be felt to this day,is that they took Dublin out of the doldrums and made Gaelic football sexy!I believe we were playing in Division 2 to paltry crowds when Heffo took over.He turned things around and with his teams success Dubliners had a sporting team to be proud of.The glamour and colour on the Hill may never have become the norm were it not for that 70's team.To take Dublin football up off the floor deserves special kudos.That is why i believe this current team may need to win a 4th All Ireland to settle the debate.Either way,as Dubs,we couldn't be prouder of either team.Legends.

cuederocket (Dublin) - Posts: 5084 - 23/11/2015 17:15:32    1809307

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Heffo's team of the 1970s of the 3 All Ireland in 5 years team of today.

For consistency I suppose you'd have to opt for the 1970s side at the minute.

The dublin team in the 70s only won 3 all irelands. They were awful at the beginning of the decade, losing games to laois and louth. I think that by the end of the decade the pendulum had swung away from dublin entirely and gone over to offaly and kerry. The dublin team of 2010 only lost by a point to the all ireland champions cork. They lost in 2012 despite a heroic comeback against mayo. The donegal game of 2014 is the only game that I would say they have regrets about, as they would most likely have won the all ireland and now be going for 4 in a row. I think that we are all nostalgic despite the facts sometimes, and this is a big characteristic of games played in the gaa over history

Donegalman (None) - Posts: 3830 - 23/11/2015 17:23:03    1809310

Heffos Teams played in a strong Leinster province with no back door , bottom line class is class and I honestly believe a true great would be so in any era , good fun to compare but equally dangerous

Damothedub (Dublin) - Posts: 5193 - 23/11/2015 17:25:09    1809311

Heffos team excelled for 3 years 75-78 I would argue that they weren't that great in 74. They were an older team than today's by the time they started winning. It's near impossible to compare. I would say today's team is more skill full and fit. Both teams have huge character. Kerry team from 75 on was better than today's. The 70s.team came from nowhere and I think that's their mark. Current crop have success behind them and all the facilities. Also Kerry and Dublin were miles ahead and Kerry on their own from late 70s on with the note able exception of Offaly for a few years?

theduke66 (Dublin) - Posts: 334 - 23/11/2015 18:23:23    1809335

Dublin should have a good chance of two in a row. They should get through Leinster handly and like Kerry when they won back to back they will hardly meet the most difficult of opponents early on which can help them peak later. Unlike Ulster for instance where Donegal after winning the All-Ireland in 2012 had to play Tyrone in the PR of Ulster the next year in the middle of May. I also recall Tyrone facing local Derbies in May against Derry and Armagh after winning the All-Ireland's in 2005 & 2008.

Byanthon (Tyrone) - 21/11/2015 10:52:55


Still spouting this BS. Surely the greatest provincial championship in history can only help teams to win all Ireland's

costm (Laois) - Posts: 92 - 23/11/2015 19:04:53    1809350

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Still spouting this BS. Surely the greatest provincial championship in history can only help teams to win all Ireland's


Provided you can stay injury and suspension free, and avoid the mental burn out that accompanies real tough games in may and june. It is a massive help if your team is in great shape and has the pool of players for a long campaign.

Donegalman (None) - Posts: 3830 - 23/11/2015 20:31:31    1809375

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TheHermit, Dublin six finals in a row 1974 to 1979, a record I believe!


Kerry did it as recently as 04-09 . .

cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 5012 - 23/11/2015 20:49:37    1809382

Dublin's six consecutive finals achieved without the aid of the backdoor!

sligo joe (Dublin) - Posts: 684 - 23/11/2015 21:53:37    1809397

A lot to be said for the backdoor in fairness...

Many a good man would have been caught in a compromising position with a taken member of the opposite sex, if they hadn't that option...

Even a Hermit's cave has found the facility useful...

TheHermit (Kerry) - Posts: 6354 - 24/11/2015 11:07:45    1809452

Dublin should have a good chance of two in a row. They should get through Leinster handly and like Kerry when they won back to back they will hardly meet the most difficult of opponents early on which can help them peak later. Unlike Ulster for instance where Donegal after winning the All-Ireland in 2012 had to play Tyrone in the PR of Ulster the next year in the middle of May. I also recall Tyrone facing local Derbies in May against Derry and Armagh after winning the All-Ireland's in 2005 & 2008.

Byanthon (Tyrone) - 21/11/2015 10:52:55


Still spouting this BS. Surely the greatest provincial championship in history can only help teams to win all Ireland's

It's the complete opposite. The quality of the teams you can meet early on that can be very disruptive. Looking outside Ulster in Leinster Meath probably look upon the defeat in 1991 to Down in the final as a game too far following the brusing clashes with Dublin in June. 1997 also saw Meath failing to get out of the province after playing 5 games. 2000 saw All-Ireland champions Meath lose in the first round of Leinster to Offaly. Before Donegal got out of Ulster in 2013 they played Tyrone, Down, Derry and a particulary hard game against Monaghan which left them in no shape to meet Mayo in the first weekend in August. None of the Ulster All-Ireland winners in the 1990's retained the provincial title the following year. Dublin at this time do not have opposition of this standard to worry about in Leinster.

Byanthon (Tyrone) - Posts: 1780 - 24/11/2015 12:18:09    1809478

Intresting when Dublin are winning an easy Leinster is most helpful , if we slip up the rhetoric is along the lines of Leinster didn't prepare us we came in half baked etc
The goal posts move so often on here

Damothedub (Dublin) - Posts: 5193 - 24/11/2015 13:16:19    1809495

Dublin's six consecutive finals achieved without the aid of the backdoor!

And the Euro, Crystal Swing, Mobile Phones and Barney the Dinosaur.

Life moved on.

slayer (Limerick) - Posts: 6480 - 24/11/2015 13:46:44    1809510

Yes the can. Will they? Probably, (ouch that hurts) but they are the best team, and no disrespect to Kerry but id only fancy mayo to really test them. In Leinster the only team that would put it up to them is Meath but with so many players retired or not available ( k Reilly s bray d bray d Carroll b menton c osulllivan c Gillespie a Forde) and that's just off the top of my head i can see this been Meath anus horribilus (is that how you spell it?) add to that a general lack of fitness and a manager who just doesn't seem to cut the mustard and i would expect a 15+ hiding should we meet in Leinster semi final (and that's a big if) so a cake walk Leinster and then a easy draw in quarters, no ulster side will touch them it'll be up to Kerry and mayo with the latter having the best chance.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 24/11/2015 19:31:41    1809632

Paul Mannion playing well for UCD last night

He's some player to reintroduce into the panel and he'll be hungry to get back into it

Gives another valuable option up front, and that's what Dublin will need to retain the tile - need at least 3-4 more options around the pitch

He's def one of them

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20600 - 26/11/2015 13:23:52    1810027

Jesus it's still only November.
Can Dublin do 2 in a row - Yes, of course it is possible.
Will Dublin do 2 in a row - who knows?! Tough draw getting Kerry in the semi final, sorry or Cork, then having to beat the best from the other side of the draw, probably Mayo.

It is very tough for a team to do 2 in a row as the record books prove, it will be no different next year. Mayo will surely improve, as will Kerry. Tyrone will come on a hell of a lot after this year. Donegal I am not so sure, maybe a bit early for a few of their minors. I hope the Dubs 3 elder statesmen mentioned in this thread stay on for 1 more year with Dublin, surely the potential of making history will keep them going one more year. If they stay on and Costello, Mannion, O'Gara, Lowndes and Carthy can improve their influence in the championship I think Dublin are rightful favourites.


Still a long time to go and a lot of football to be played. Tell you what tho, Mayo's back room team look very accomplished.

GAAHattrick (Dublin) - Posts: 278 - 26/11/2015 14:23:30    1810050