Doire City

'If you give the Armagh hurlers a million will they win Liam ' - very easy no!!!!

But as someone involved in hurling in the Orchard County - if i was given a million i could improve hurling and i would guarantee sucess ( depends what you you identifty as sucess)
BUT there is more money spend on the County U-21 football team than the senior/U-21/minor and development hurling teams....
Now the Armagh county Board are currently more proactive than previous admins in the small code... but money does help.... i would spent it on:-

1. 3 hurling coaches
2. underage dev. system - taking teams down south
3.Pay the fees/public libility ins for the hurling clubs in the county - 14,000 Euro and £5,000 in total
4. gear and equipment
total cost £100.000

don't need a million just yet!!!!

cuchulainn35 (Armagh) - Posts: 1676 - 05/08/2015 11:09:10    1764188

It's what you do with the resources. Those who say each county should be able to get a good sponsorship deal how do you suggest Leitrim get a massive deal? Name one big business that could fund them?

I would like to see the figures from Croke Park. How much did each county receive in revenue from Croker in the last few years.

gotmilk (Fermanagh) - Posts: 4971 - 05/08/2015 11:32:18    1764205

cuchulainn35 yeah but my issue is people complaining that if they had x y and z they could compete with dublin kerry etc. No club has what dublin has and 3-4 could beat them. Money does not buy success. You cant pay someone to be a naturally talented ball player.

Look at Kk for example. Is money the reason for their success or do they have money due to their success. They just have hurls in their hands before they have bottles. Its about getting young people playing from an early age and keeping them interested. In ulster every school has access to a free gaa coach if they want it.

Do you think some 8 or 10 year old cares about how good a pitch they are playing on or wonders why they dont have more coaches. Teams come and go and money wont change that.

DoireCityFC (Derry) - Posts: 1580 - 05/08/2015 11:32:43    1764207

P.S if the Armagh GAA community can not raise 100k for hurling then that is no ones fault but their own.

The GAA is not a charity

People need to stop crying like kids and man up. Look at Corofin. All ireland champs and im only guessing but I doubt they are the richest club in the country.

Since 2010 its Kerry 6, Galway 1, Armagh 1, Tyrone 3, Cork 1, Donegal 1, Dublin 2.

Where is this Dublin money machine domminace we hear about?

DoireCityFC (Derry) - Posts: 1580 - 05/08/2015 11:38:20    1764211

duckula20
County: Antrim
Sponsorship is only part of the funding issue. Is it a coincidence that Mayo, Kerry and Dublin have 3 of the bigger stadia which also get their fair share of ticket revenue during the season.

Dublin don't get all Croke Park games gate receipts. MacHale Park got no championship game this year.

yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11236 - 05/08/2015 11:39:50    1764212

gotmilk There is a reason there is no big business sponsoring small population areas or teams with no success.......because if they did they wouldn't be a big company in the first place with decisions like that.

Sponsorship has a goal. To reach as many people as possible. If you want a big deal then achieve a big goal and then the money will follow.

DoireCityFC (Derry) - Posts: 1580 - 05/08/2015 11:42:39    1764215

Doire you just realise you have proven why sponsorships should be pooled. Those counties will never attract a big sponsor. This then has a knock on effect on the players. You can say what you like but it's true. Dublin players get meals delivered to their doorsteps, smaller counties can't afford to cover food for their players never mind get it cooked and delivered to their doorsteps.

gotmilk (Fermanagh) - Posts: 4971 - 05/08/2015 11:50:12    1764222

Just thought of a good example. Owenbeg was opened in 94/95. At the time the best training facility in the country and still in the top 5. This was built AFTER derry won sam. Success built this for us not the other way around

DoireCityFC (Derry) - Posts: 1580 - 05/08/2015 11:52:50    1764224

Doire City where have you been for the last five years ? Have you not seen or heard of the amounts of money certain counties are generating. Some counties, one in particular have a massive advantage when it comes to generating off the field income.

Greengrass (Louth) - Posts: 6031 - 05/08/2015 11:53:48    1764225

So meals on wheels win all irelands these days?

DoireCityFC (Derry) - Posts: 1580 - 05/08/2015 11:55:17    1764227

Nope Doire but it certainly helps. If you don't have to worry about cooking dinner etc you can spend more time recuperating and concentrating on yourself. I spoke to an intercounty footballer once and he told me his diet consisted of the following (7 days a week)
5 eggs on toast for breakfast
Chicken Sandwich 11
Meat dinner 1:00
Protein shake 4:30
Meat dinner 7:30
4 weetabix before bed

Are you going to tell me that it doesn't require a lot of effort to make that 7 days a week. If you have someone doing that it makes your life a lot easier and allows you to focus more of your energies elsewhere.

gotmilk (Fermanagh) - Posts: 4971 - 05/08/2015 12:06:32    1764234

Lads this derry city guy hasn't a notion. Give him a week more and he will be gone on to the soccer forums. Was on spouting about derrys chances this year 2 weeks ago. There a tonne of money in derry gaa but the problem is the clubs all absolutely hate each other so until they can sort that out they will have a nice training facility in Owenbeg (Nowhere near as nice as Garvaghey by the way)but still get nowhere.

You can't use Kilkenny and Kerry as examples as to how success was built without funds. Fristly both came to prominence in a very different world and are leaps and bounds ahead of anyone at this stage. Its almost impossible for smaller counties to get up anywhere near the level they are at in todays gaa world without money.

DUe to the professionhalism that has creeped in we almost have to do something about the unspoken finances collected by the big counties. Dublin and Cork still get far more than any other county for coaching which could be seen as understandable given their size but the outdated GAA model does not take into acocount the finances both can raise on their own.

I can't see this changing any time soon however

redhanddefender (Tyrone) - Posts: 913 - 05/08/2015 12:10:10    1764238

Over €3 million is distributed to the four Provincial Councils each year for the past three years for Club development grants. The funds are distributed to the Provincial Councils based on the number of Clubs in each Province. For example, in 2009 the distribution was as follows:

Comhairle Chonnacht €405,000
Comhairle Laighean €1,125,000
Comhairle na Mumhan €810,000
Comhairle Uladh €660,000
Total Annual Contribution
from Central Council €3,000,000



I have this book at home
http://www.amazon.co.uk/GAAconomics-The-Secret-Life-Money-ebook/dp/B00EQ8J11G

Read then decide what you think about money and the GAA instead of making random assumptions on what you hear in the pub

DoireCityFC (Derry) - Posts: 1580 - 05/08/2015 12:11:46    1764239

Over €3 million is distributed to the four Provincial Councils each year for the past three years for Club development grants. The funds are distributed to the Provincial Councils based on the number of Clubs in each Province. For example, in 2009 the distribution was as follows:

Comhairle Chonnacht €405,000
Comhairle Laighean €1,125,000
Comhairle na Mumhan €810,000
Comhairle Uladh €660,000
Total Annual Contribution
from Central Council €3,000,000



I have this book at home
http://www.amazon.co.uk/GAAconomics-The-Secret-Life-Money-ebook/dp/B00EQ8J11G

Read then decide what you think about money and the GAA instead of making random assumptions on what you hear in the pub

DoireCityFC (Derry) - Posts: 1580 - 05/08/2015 12:13:09    1764241

Greengrass and why should any county have to share their success with any other? You make your own way in life.....and sport. Thank god my county arent crying out for charity like some others even though we have one of the poorest fan bases in the entire country.

DoireCityFC (Derry) - Posts: 1580 - 05/08/2015 12:15:14    1764246

redhanddefender the guy from under the bridge again! No its not as nice as tyrone hence why i didnt say that. it was built 20 years ago!!!!!!!!

Is there soccer fourms on this? I wouldnt know.

DoireCityFC (Derry) - Posts: 1580 - 05/08/2015 12:16:41    1764248

Although not the topic but rather your anti Derry and trolling of me again for no good reason.


"Was on spouting about derrys chances this year 2 weeks ago"

Please quote and refrence source if you wouldnt mind

DoireCityFC (Derry) - Posts: 1580 - 05/08/2015 12:18:49    1764250

A county shouldn't have to distribute their wealth amongst anyone. It should be properly declared and collated by the GAA and then GAA funds distributed where there is a clear lack of funds. Its for the greater good of the game. Its not going to put every county on the same level but it will go a damn side towards it. Also if smaller counties can start doing better at underage and club level and showing more professionals set ups they should be able to attract more of their own funding.

How can you take a broad stroke and distribute funds on the amount of clubs per county. Such a stupid concept. Parnells in Dublin for example have more funds than most counties. what is the point in giving them a few extra thousand.

Derry can hoard all their money, will do them a pile of good!

Again, its for the greater good of the game.

redhanddefender (Tyrone) - Posts: 913 - 05/08/2015 12:40:10    1764272

DoireCityFC
County: Derry
Posts: 707

1764246 Greengrass and why should any county have to share their success with any other? You make your own way in life.....and sport. Thank god my county arent crying out for charity like some others even though we have one of the poorest fan bases in the entire country.

Utter rubbish Doire. If that's your philosophy then you have no idea as to what constitutes the ethos of Gaelic Games. As has already been said you can take your Premiership mentality with you and trot of to the soccer forum.

Greengrass (Louth) - Posts: 6031 - 05/08/2015 12:51:22    1764287

Doire i noticed you haven't came back to me about the meals on wheels. Do you think it is easy for an intercounty footballer to make all that food themselves and train etc? That's not even taking into account the financial implications for said intercounty player. If you think financial resources helps intercounty teams then you are deluded.

gotmilk (Fermanagh) - Posts: 4971 - 05/08/2015 12:57:28    1764298