Looking at the game as a whole yesterday and no Murfman, we are not all bitter neighbours, but on the day the better team did win, Monaghan just never got going in full swing. Tyrone had their homework done and I have to say you can see Peter Donnelly has had an impact already on their tackling. In saying this, this game was not to different 10-12 years ago of Tyrone and Armagh games in Croker in terms of intensity and endeavour. Neither teams lacked either on Saturday. Hard luck to Monaghan, ye will be back as this is a pretty young team on the whole. Tyrone face another battle but Kerry would have to be favourites in the semi but they will have to meet Tyrone's intensity to get to the final.

cavan97 (Cavan) - Posts: 369 - 10/08/2015 11:20:09    1767051

Great posts from conman1282 and Tyrone legend 78 - the anti- Tyrone witch hunt will only galvanise them and make them stronger. RTE pundits have whipped up a storm about Tyrone again but allow Kerry, Dublin, Mayo et al do the very same things without even a mention - in fact Brolly even compliments Kerry's ruthlessness. Surprised at Whelan last night thought he was actually impartial and O'Rourke considering the team he played for I wouldn't lecture too much.

IrishGael3 (USA) - Posts: 1092 - 10/08/2015 11:41:27    1767081

No matter what anyone says there must have been more than a few players watching the sunday game with red faces. Its a bit unfair to single any player out, as there was plenty from both sides at it. Last ten minutes was hard on the eyes only lightened by the playground ham-acting.

arock (Dublin) - Posts: 4898 - 10/08/2015 12:13:04    1767128

Cant everybody just smile :)
http://waterfordwhispersnews.com/2015/08/10/tyrone-players-hair-rushed-to-hospital-after-violent-on-pitch-attack/

cavan97 (Cavan) - Posts: 369 - 10/08/2015 12:15:55    1767134

Wasn't Tiernan McCann the same player who 'won' the controversial penalty against Meath that won them the match?

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 10/08/2015 12:28:31    1767155

I think all this anti Tyrone talk is ridiculous. Why is no one acknowledging their athleticism and drive to win. I think Tyrone would hold their hands up and say, man for man, they haven't got one of the top four teams in the country, but as a group they have came together, and will do whatever it takes to win a game. Yes Cavanagh milked it a bit but Conor McManus has been recognised before as the best man in the country at drawing fouls, its a part of the game. Tyrone played at a chaotic pace and I have no doubt when Cavanagh and the likes were down injured, it was seen as an opportunity to get their breathes back and then attack at 100% again, nothing more. Monaghan may have been safer doing that than playing at 75% for the entire game.

Elvisahaha (Mayo) - Posts: 36 - 10/08/2015 12:46:14    1767179

[url=]linkhttps://thetirconaillview.wordpress.com/2015/08/10/mickey-harte-the-master-of-the-dark-arts/

tirconaillview (Donegal) - Posts: 12 - 10/08/2015 13:01:41    1767197

I said on here we needed to win this to be viewed a great side. It just didn't happen for us.

Tyrone played us and the ref perfectly (Marty Duffy was an awful choice for that game). Maybe if we had the second billing with Gough things may have been a little different but that's the way it goes. If and buts and all that. Tyrone were better on the day and made the scoring look easy when we laboured through it. I thought P. Harte and Donnelly were very good, hard to pick good performers for us.

As for the shenanigans….I expected some of that but not what it descended in to towards the end. It suited Tyrone to have a stop start game early on but I couldn't help but wonder why push it even further at the end and try to rile up Monaghan even more? They didn't look like losing from early in the second half. They could have actually tipped up the scoreboard more. I was more disappointed that our lads reacted to it.

As for the Tyrone lads getting wound up by Whelan and O'Rourke on the SG…If you lay with the dogs you get up with a few fleas. Monaghan are well fit to be cynical and have on a few occasions left me with bittersweet moments and they were involved in plenty on Saturday. However, O'Rourke made a valid point that its follows you around more than any other side.

Interesting battle ahead for the red hands. Kerry will be as cute as them (I think James O'D and Kavanagh wear the same studs). In fairness, it would have been brilliant to get a SF berth but we maintained our status in division 1 and won the Anglo celt. Not a bad year by any means. Always nice to get some silverware.

seanfinn (Monaghan) - Posts: 360 - 10/08/2015 13:12:53    1767216

arock
County: Dublin
Posts: 2697

1767128 No matter what anyone says there must have been more than a few players watching the sunday game with red faces. Its a bit unfair to single any player out, as there was plenty from both sides at it. Last ten minutes was hard on the eyes only lightened by the playground ham-acting.

Here here ,
It seems on here not many can give an opinion without checking the county jersey of the transgressor , upon which they then formulate an opinion , as to if lads are embarrassed you know I think that's changing , time was youd be ashamed to show your face in your local club with some of the antics , new generation of player doesn't seem to bother as much . Shame .

Damothedub (Dublin) - Posts: 5193 - 10/08/2015 13:21:34    1767223

What we around seeing regarding this popular hatred of Tyrone is human nature at its worst. Shameful.

Naysayer (Antrim) - Posts: 2071 - 10/08/2015 13:25:21    1767228

The Tyrone posts make for entertaining reading on a Monday

"Our county deserves the plaudits but instead we are feeling the jealous and spiteful emotions of others through social media and the RTE"

"The Sunday Game, an impartial program that gives no bias or unbias to any team!!!!! The tripe that came from the mouths of Whelan and O'Rourke last night was shameful"

I think id just keep the head down if I was a Tyrone fan. Tyrone deserved to win the game indeed but your lads acted like a disgrace as usual. Its hard for rte and the likes to analysis a game and completely ignore what happened on the pitch.

Sean867 (Dublin) - Posts: 25 - 10/08/2015 13:42:12    1767252

The worst of all is the tyrone posters (not all) pointing to other incidents etc and not criticising the embarrassing dive. Tyrone won the game and deservedly so but u cant ignore their behaviour. One Tyrone poster on here said he'd reserve judgement on the dive until he watched it again! What a laugh - call a spade a spade lads, worse than the lpool supporters that tried to defend suarez after his munchie attacks.

Brolly (Monaghan) - Posts: 4472 - 10/08/2015 14:16:23    1767287

The anti-Ulster bias on RTE has been evident for years,I say well done to Tyrone,an up an coming team and great credit to Micky Harte,Dublin and Kerry are good at the play acting themselves when it suits them but you won't hear them being called out on it,
Tyrone have a tough task the next day but as the only Ulster team left in the competition I'm behind them 100%

TirChonaillabu2 (Donegal) - Posts: 344 - 10/08/2015 14:18:27    1767289

Sean867 -not sure what you have been watching over the years as I have seen many time greater offences being carried out without any consequences -all the successful counties have been at it and unfortunately it is and has been part of the game- it is called human nature and it is in all forms of life business included

browncows (Meath) - Posts: 2342 - 10/08/2015 14:21:26    1767293

browncows
County: Meath
Posts: 633

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Sean867 -not sure what you have been watching over the years as I have seen many time greater offences being carried out without any consequences -all the successful counties have been at it and unfortunately it is and has been part of the game- it is called human nature and it is in all forms of life business included

Browncows - you cannot foul, throw sly punches, dive, get players sent off on purpose, drag people down, lie on the pitch faking injuries.Do all this and then get upset when other people are not a fan of it and dont applaud there behaviour. Other counties do it from time to time, as you said human nature. But for some reason Tyrone's do this every single game I watch them in and they are not isolated instances, it is a tatic they have been using for years. Sorry but im not a fan of this and cannot believe some of the posters coming on this forum to say we should be slapping them on the back saying well done.

Sean867 (Dublin) - Posts: 25 - 10/08/2015 14:44:19    1767309

Now Ziggy, don't get dragged down to their level. The penalty v Meath was controversial because of the number of steps taken before he was fouled, nothing else. Nice try though.

What Tiernan McCann on Saturday did was wrong and has no place in the game. But while I don't agree with what he did, nor do I agree with the attacks by the media on his person. Mind you, it is easy for RTE to lay it on thick when they know no one from Tyrone will be on to speak, but that's another debate for another day.

As for the game itself, I actually thought both teams put on a decent spectacle at times. Some of the long range point shooting from Monaghan was impressive. Hughes, McManus, Duffy all landed monster efforts. They just found it that bit more difficult to get the space. Tyrone found that space and used it to their advantage. An interesting stat I saw on Sat morning was that from the 2013 semi final, Monaghan started with 13 players who played that game, Tyrone with 7. Such has been the transformation in our team over the past 18 months. Mickey Harte always knew what he wanted in his teams, he has just about now managed to mould the players to carry out the job.

Tir Eoghain abu

EnolaGay (Tyrone) - Posts: 653 - 10/08/2015 14:47:43    1767312

Kerry v Tyrone = expect trouble
Derry v Tyrone = expect trouble
Monaghan v Tyrone = expect trouble
Armagh v Tyrone = expect trouble
Donegal v Tyrone = expect trouble

A pattern emerging...

Eddie the Exile (Monaghan) - Posts: 1064 - 10/08/2015 14:59:00    1767321

Elvisahaha
County: Mayo
Posts: 1

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I think all this anti Tyrone talk is ridiculous. Why is no one acknowledging their athleticism and drive to win. I think Tyrone would hold their hands up and say, man for man, they haven't got one of the top four teams in the country, but as a group they have came together, and will do whatever it takes to win a game. Yes Cavanagh milked it a bit but Conor McManus has been recognised before as the best man in the country at drawing fouls, its a part of the game. Tyrone played at a chaotic pace and I have no doubt when Cavanagh and the likes were down injured, it was seen as an opportunity to get their breathes back and then attack at 100% again, nothing more. Monaghan may have been safer doing that than playing at 75% for the entire game.

Right all i got from that post is tyrone cheated. And your solution is for the opposition to cheat too. The game is 70 mins .. Its not 70 minutes less the breaks that cavanagh decides to take when he is out of a bit of puff. If you condone just faking injury when your tired then thats condoning cheating. I hate rule changes because it takes away a bit form the games i grew up loving. But changes are needed.

Jasus i grew up watching cork and meath. That was the opposite .. you wouldnt go down injured even if you were cause you wouldnt give the opposition the satisfaction of seeing they hurt you. Its getting too close to soccer now and thats troubling.. Its been a crap season so far with maybe one or two games that were of any quality. If i wanted to watch diving on saturday i probably would have turned on eurosport they normally cover diving competitions. If i wanted to see play acting i wouild have gone to the everyman palace to watch a play. But i chose to watch a football match its just an awful shame i didnt get to see one.

Brolly drives me cracked but in this case his article got its very right

ritchie (Cork) - Posts: 346 - 10/08/2015 15:07:58    1767328

I didn't see the Sunday game but I've got the jist of it. I don't believe McCann should apologise. Or be banned. He's not the first to do it! Was it possibly Aidan O Mahanoy in a Kerry v Cork game that did something similar? The outcry then was nothing of this level. Hughes put his hand near his face/head he was asking for trouble. In saying that. I stand by what I said about the black card. Meyler played the ball over Hughes. Hughes kept his same stance. If Meyler had ran in a straight line he would of bypassed him. He looked for contact dragging both to the ground. A poster here asked why?!! Why do you think? Maybe Meyler was hoping Duffy would see it the way I saw it first on tv. That Hughes had dragged him to the ground and ensure Hughes got a black card. After seeing it numerous times I stand by my first post. Meyler was cynical and devious and he deserved a black card.

SamandLiamSoon (Galway) - Posts: 597 - 10/08/2015 15:08:53    1767330

@Eddie the Exile

Monaghan v Derry - Big Trouble - Derry absolutely hate Monaghan
Monaghan v Tyrone - Trouble
Monaghan v Donegal - Trouble
Monaghan v Cavan - Trouble

Whats the common denominator bar the other teams winning All Irelands!!!!

IrishGael3 (USA) - Posts: 1092 - 10/08/2015 15:44:49    1767362