Dont see what the big deal is.
this defensive system that managers are employing is loathed by most football fans, the managers and players know this, and yet continue to do it anyway. theyre effectively giving the middle finger to GAA supporters, so they cant complain if they get a bit of blow back.

joncarter (Galway) - Posts: 2692 - 30/03/2015 09:44:37    1708195

Players don't particularly want to play this type of football, managers don't either, but they are not breaking any rules and really fans don't want to look at it. In Croke Park it felt like the game was doomed, cold, wet, bored, what a truly miserable spectacle. Football seems almost incapable of reforming itself and if it goes on in its present form it will not survive. Sports everywhere make ground breaking rule changes to revitalise their games. I just worry that for a significant amount of people in the GAA this is actually OK. I would say that is my very last trip to Croker to watch a football match.

arock (Dublin) - Posts: 4898 - 30/03/2015 09:45:49    1708196

Agreed saffron

During the appalling performance against Monaghan a few weeks back we weren't slow in voicing our disapproval, but it was aimed where it was deserved, the management.

It was they who decided on the setup, structure & tactics & so they got the flak.

The players did their best but even they wilted under the strain of what was being asked of them & no blame attaches to them.

No, if Dubs are not happy with the way their team is set up, then direct their disapproval where it should go, Jim Gavin & his mentors.

MuckrossHead (Donegal) - Posts: 5028 - 30/03/2015 09:49:15    1708198

Both manager were actually laughable last night, blaming the rules. Nothing to do with rules. The blame lays squarely with management. End of.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 30/03/2015 09:57:50    1708210

The Ulster Counties should join the All Ireland League (Rugby Union) where all the team must be behind the ball. Don't watch Gaelic Football any more, lost interest way back when Tyrone won AI, just watch hurling now, great game yesterday by two worst teams in Div 1a.

Brian_Coyote (Antrim) - Posts: 346 - 30/03/2015 09:59:32    1708212

I was at the game on Saturday night and while i wasn't booing (i don't agree with that kind of thing) I can 100% see why people were. It's easy for people to criticise those that were booing but I bet those that do have an issue with it didn't fork out €20 for the pleasure of sitting through it and end up going home soaked.

CroiGorm (Dublin) - Posts: 1547 - 30/03/2015 10:12:00    1708223

Muck

The booing at the Dubs match was aimed at the managent too

See it's easy making up lies isn't it

:)

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20601 - 30/03/2015 10:15:51    1708224

royaldunne
County: Meath
Posts: 7107

1708210 Both manager were actually laughable last night, blaming the rules. Nothing to do with rules. The blame lays squarely with management. End of.

This is exactly the kind of thinking that will keep the game in its current state.There is too much blame being put on the managers when the tactics they employ are within the rules and are largely quite effective.

Sadly a large amount of people within the GAA probably agree with you and this is why we probably won't get the necessary rule changes implemented.

Derry got within 4 points of Dublin by doing this despite the fact that if both teams went put and played football they would get a hiding so I don't really blame McIver for sending his team out to play as they did but they shouldn't be allowed to do it if the rules were correct.

uibhfhaili1986 (Offaly) - Posts: 1296 - 30/03/2015 10:22:09    1708227

I was going to go to Clones im 100% not got now not one bit of entertainment in Gaelic football anymore.

clondalkindub (Dublin) - Posts: 9926 - 30/03/2015 10:25:25    1708230

RD

Good man looking forward to seeing Meath take on Dublin man to man again

:)

Big time...

Gavin did the right thing, you simply cannot go all out attack against the blanket

It doesn't work. Teams have setup to take footballing ability out of the equation

Why should the teams that have the ability just go ok... Lets walk straight into it

To counter you have to beat them at their own game

Look at Kerry last year, look at Dublin in 2011

Then look at Dublin 14.... Out and out football against the blanket doesn't work

That's why it exists in the first place

Hats off to Gavin.. He's learned his lesson and that makes Dublin even better now

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20601 - 30/03/2015 10:33:15    1708234

somehow I think the booing was aimed at one team DERRY for dishing up such muck. Dublin are renowned for the football they play but how can you play attacking football in front of a wall of 14 players.....must have been very frustrating...in fairness they dealt well with it in the second half but it must be a nightmare when you are a good footballer to have to deal with that...by all accounts it was raised at congress and nobody voted it down, as in doing something about it.....

Mollymalone (Dublin) - Posts: 1137 - 30/03/2015 10:41:01    1708242

Firstly let me categorically state I've no problem with defensive orientated teams. But if the game goes down the road of 15 behind the ball then I'll turn all my attention to hurling. There is a vast difference to being defensive as a means to win by counter attack and total defense with no intention of trying to score. This isn't the game I grew up supporting and speak with pride about. It's nothing short of pathetic. Ive never jeered at a GAA match before and I've no problem stating I jeered Derry. Not even at them in particular but at this seemingly accepted trend that is destroying this sport. I don't think I'll go to Monaghan either. There was zero enjoyment in that and its even worse when there is a hurling game before it.

seany16 (Dublin) - Posts: 1658 - 30/03/2015 10:44:18    1708247

CD

Any team apart from Cork, Kerry, Mayo

Would be mad to setup against Dublin man to man

Unfortunately Leinster could be more of the same

Sure even Kerry in their current form under Fitzmaurice will prob setup more defensive

Although their ego may force them into playing us man to man

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20601 - 30/03/2015 10:44:58    1708248

If booing was because of bad value for €20.There is an anomoly in that people pay to see players not stadium management. But the players are not paid so they do not owe anything to the paying customer. In fairness GAA admission prices are very low compared to Other sports, Concerts, or other events because of this. It might be a great spectacle or not, Nobody owes you anything.

Ashrules (Dublin) - Posts: 518 - 30/03/2015 10:56:08    1708258

the worst game of football I've been to was Antrim v Monaghan in the championship two years ago, it was dreadful stuff, neither team got into double figures both teams sat back, even when Monaghan had a man sent off Antrim wouldn't send men forward. There was no booing and rightfully so, my frustration was aimed at the management as players who didn't play to his 'system' were taken straight off, players are only following instructions and its not right to hurl abuse at them. Generally, there isnt much booing at GAA matches because most fans understand the ethos etc but at big matches particularly at Croke the casual/soccer fans tend to show their faces and make their presence felt.

SaffronDon (Antrim) - Posts: 2386 - 30/03/2015 11:03:35    1708264

That was suppose to be "going", bernard brogan should pack it in he's no use to us anymore with the way the game has gone he's running around looking for the ball out the field which is useless for us but I can understand his frustration he just wants to play ball but with 15 bodies around him he has no hope and that's pretty much the same for all the great corner forwards in Gaelic football right now.

clondalkindub (Dublin) - Posts: 9926 - 30/03/2015 11:11:22    1708269

I'm a massive Gaa fan and a club player and I booed and I think most Dublin league supporters are not soccer people and I wasn't the only one booing so I think your wrong.

clondalkindub (Dublin) - Posts: 9926 - 30/03/2015 11:15:07    1708273

SaffronDon
County: Antrim
Posts: 166

1708264
the worst game of football I've been to was Antrim v Monaghan in the championship two years ago, it was dreadful stuff, neither team got into double figures both teams sat back, even when Monaghan had a man sent off Antrim wouldn't send men forward. There was no booing and rightfully so, my frustration was aimed at the management as players who didn't play to his 'system' were taken straight off, players are only following instructions and its not right to hurl abuse at them. Generally, there isnt much booing at GAA matches because most fans understand the ethos etc but at big matches particularly at Croke the casual/soccer fans tend to show their faces and make their presence felt.

You'd have a hard time finding a casual/soccer fan at a Dublin league game on a wet Saturday night in March whether in Croke Park or not. They tend to appear in the summer. The Cusack Stand for example was filled with season ticket holders who are at every game and have every right to feel done after that spectacle.

CroiGorm (Dublin) - Posts: 1547 - 30/03/2015 11:20:46    1708277

clondalkindub

so as a club player would you appreciate the local mob turning up to hurl abuse at you after sweating buckets at training all week?

SaffronDon (Antrim) - Posts: 2386 - 30/03/2015 11:24:06    1708280

CroiGorm

I'm not denying they have a right to voice their disgust but it has to be aimed at the people responsible, don't shoot the messenger and all that..

SaffronDon (Antrim) - Posts: 2386 - 30/03/2015 11:31:23    1708285